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Initial post: Jun 15, 2012 7:34:06 PM PDT
Mark says:
How do we convince Amazon to convert the Travis McGee series to Kindle. What processes are available for John D. MacDonald aficionados to do this conversion themselves and then make the books available on Amazon?

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 7:36:13 PM PDT
T. Cook says:
It's not Amazon, it's the Publisher who holds the copyright. Write to them and to his estate.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 7:56:41 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
If it were up to Amazon all books would be converted.

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 7:58:55 PM PDT
I'd buy them all.

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 8:47:01 PM PDT
Mark: Me too! Fyi, fairly recent development, now all of the Travis McGee's are available as audiobooks. Hoping this means ebook versions will follow.

We also need the Matt Helm series.

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 9:17:13 PM PDT
If people do it themselves and make them available, that's called piracy, and is illegal.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 16, 2012 12:22:15 AM PDT
Mark says:
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Posted on Jun 16, 2012 3:19:37 AM PDT
his books are still under copyright, it's up to whoever holds those copyrights whether they'll ever be available in ebook form, at least legally, however they have been scanned and converted into ebook format and unauthorized versions are out there.

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 3:29:03 AM PDT
Matt says:
The Travis McGee books are all under copyright still. Almost all books written since 1924 are under copyright. The easiest way to promote ebook versions is to click on the link on the product page. The link is generally below the cover image. Example product page: The Deep Blue Good-by

If you want to try to talk the publisher into letting you create a Kindle version, go ahead. It looks like Random House owns the paper publishing rights (at least to the first book). You could try asking them if they own the ebook rights. They may tell you that MacDonald's heirs own the publishing rights. If so, you'd have to contact them.

Posted on Sep 24, 2012 2:19:22 PM PDT
Ellis Golub says:
It would appear that Random House is beginning to make the Travis Mcgee series available as ebooks. There are six of them scheduled for release early in January 2013. check out: http://www.randomhouse.com/book/search/search.php?x=0&y=0&title_subtitle_auth=travis+mcgee

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 4:56:01 PM PDT
K. Rowley says:
"It would appear that Random House is beginning to make the Travis Mcgee series available as ebooks."

People need to keep in mind - when they are available, chances are you won't like the price (compared to used paperbacks)...

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 5:05:26 PM PDT
Buttercup says:
Matt Helm books are good as well as the Travis McGee. The copyright of books from the early 1900's as far as digital publishing can be hard to track down, though.

I'm very interested in the Dorothy Sayers books, and in fact, I think they are available on the Amazon UK store, but not here, because of copyright issues.

I don't know what those issues are, and I have written the publisher several times asking if they could make those books available, but so far, only a few are available on Amazon US. I check every few weeks, once a month or so, on several authors that I would like to see on Kindle, and hope that one day they will be.

I click the "make available on Kindle" button, whenever I think about it. Clicking the button and writing the publishers are really the only resources that are available to readers. Because as others have pointed out, making our own copies, and especially posting those copies, would be illegal.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 5:12:36 PM PDT
I pre-ordered the first one, but I'm moving the rest from my "when will it be available" list on Ereaderiq to the "watch for price drop" list ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 5:14:58 PM PDT
But the used paperbacks seem to have been printed entirely in fine print. I have ALL of them and can't read any of them anymore.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 5:19:54 PM PDT
Buttercup says:
I haven't read a paper book since I got my first Kindle right after they became available, I think it was 2007. Used paperbacks might be cheaper, but for me the ease of reading on a small, light, portable, and always available for download book trumps price. I love being able to adjust the print for my older eyes, and my hands appreciate holding a Kindle and not struggling to keep a heavy book open.

Books like the Travis McGee series, I figure if I'm patient they'll come out on Kindle. And there are so many other books that I want to read that are available on Kindle, that I can wait.

Posted on Sep 24, 2012 5:26:53 PM PDT
Copyright is a broken thing. There is a book I can think of written in 1755 that is still "covered" by copyright. Legal much? Only if you bribe a lawmaker. As for digitizing your own books, that's like converting your CDs to mp3s. Legal, but "illegal" according to the publishers. There are several services online which you can mail your books to and they will scan it and convert it to an ebook for you. The good ones will destroy your original in the process(some of them break the binding to get a clean scan) This is currently "Legal" however sharing it is "illegal". Joy :)
Major IP/Copyright reform in process if you haven't heard and as far as they (the big businesses ignoring your elected officials) are concerned all digital formats are "illegal" unless you keep paying for them...

Posted on Sep 24, 2012 5:39:58 PM PDT
Buttercup says:
Oh my!!! This post and talking about copyright, and clicking the button and Dorothy Sayers, reminded me that I haven't checked in quite some time to see if her books had been "kindlized". So, I checked, and they are available! So, maybe readers writing the publishers and clicking the button ... maybe it did work. Or maybe they just decided it was time. I don't know, but I'm happy they're available now.

So Travis McGee fans, start clicking and writing and maybe they will be available before long.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 5:47:03 PM PDT
saraf says:
Yeah they have been available for preorder for a week or so already. At least some of them have been.

Posted on Sep 24, 2012 5:50:25 PM PDT
Bufo Calvin says:
Just to clarify the copyright issue a bit:

Books first published in the USA prior to 1923 are in the public domain in the United States. You can check the copyright status of books published 1978 and after at

http://www.copyright.gov/records/

Having the copyright and licensing the books to sell them are two different things. The Copyright Office records will tell you who has the copyright, not who has the license.

Books are traditionally licensed by format and territory. A company that has the right to publish a hardback in the USA does not automatically have the license to publish the e-books in the USA.

The problem is that, prior to about 2005, e-book rights were not commonly negotiated. In that case, the rights remain with the author/the author's estate. That's why the negotiations can be complicated...not all estates are in a good situation to handle a new negotiation.

In the case of the Travis McGee novels, the first one was published in 1964. If they followed proper procedure, it would fall into the public domain in the USA (under the current rules) on January 1, 2060.

For a popular series like that, though, we generally don't have to wait that long. :) Amazon is getting increasingly into the traditional publishing business, where they actually license the rights themselves and publish the books. They've done that with James Bond, and with the Ed McBain 87th Precinct series.

As Ellis noted above, these books are already scheduled for publication as e-books by Random House.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 5:50:56 PM PDT
Buttercup says:
You are right, I'm losing it in my old age. :D I didn't realize that this was a thread resurrected from June and that the books were becoming available. So I guess clicking for John McDonald books to become available worked as well. That's nice to know. :D

I need to start checking the posting dates before replying.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 6:04:23 PM PDT
saraf says:
Thanks for the heads up on Dorothy Sayers...I just grabbed a couple for my sit-by-the-lake-and-read vacation coming up! :)

I preordered some Travis McGee, long wait before those are out though!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2012 8:19:00 PM PDT
K. Rowley says:
"As for digitizing your own books, that's like converting your CDs to mp3s. Legal, but "illegal" according to the publishers."

AFAIK, you can convert a book yourself - as long as it's just for your own use and you don't make it available to anyone else.. I've converted a couple old out-of-print books that I have, that were pretty much falling apart. Stuff that probably will never see another printing, much less ever be made available as an ebook.

Posted on Sep 25, 2012 12:43:28 AM PDT
Mark says:
I noticed that several of you have already pre-ordered the Travis McGee ebooks. Where did you do that? I've searched Amazon, and they're not listed yet.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 25, 2012 1:27:04 AM PDT
Sue says:
There are two authors that come to mind about holding out about converting their books to an ebook.

First is Harper Lee. She flatly refuses to convert to ebooks. I had clicked on the link to have an ebook for years and no ebook. She will not change her mind on this.

Second is J K Rowlings and the Harry Potter books. She held out for a long time. Not sure what changed her mind but she did this on her own terms. You can only buy them from Pottermore.com. If you search for them on Amazon and click on link to buy it, it sends you to Pottermore.com. That is the only way to get them. I have not heard that that will change any time soon.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 25, 2012 4:39:37 AM PDT
saraf says:
Honestly, getting the Rowling books from Pottermore is not a bad thing! I paid ONCE for the set and can download them multiple times, in different formats. So I paid once for the 7 books and I have them on my Kindle, my Nook, and if I had other ereaders, I could have them on those too. Personally I wish all ebooks were like that.
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