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Posted on Dec 3, 2012 9:16:03 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 3, 2012 9:19:45 PM PST
Calibre can be confusing because it is almost infinitely customizable, and the documentation leaves something to be desired. In its most basic form it's not really complicated.

I got a new laptop about a year and a half ago and when I copied over all my ten years worth of pdb, prc, and mslit ebooks that I had scattered around in various folders I realized they added up to over a thousand mostly unreadable books. It made me very determined to finally do something about them. I just stuck to the most basic parts of Calibre, and it really wasn't hard. The plugins actually have better documentation than Calibre itself and once you have them set up they just work automatically.

Another really good thing about having Calibre is that all my ebooks are in one place, with whatever info I want to store about them, and can be easily sorted and re-sorted into any order. As I was organizing my books I found some duplicates; now it's easy to check so that doesn't happen again.

On the subject of various types of DRM, as far as I can see the only good thing about Amazon's is not the DRM method itself, but just the fact that Amazon will probably be around for the foreseeable future. I buy mostly from Amazon not because I like their DRM system but because of other things that I prefer about Amazon.

Just considering the DRM types (assuming you're not planning to strip it) I find B&N's infinitely preferable. I always used the same credit card at ereader, Fictionwise, and later B&N. When I finally had to change to a new number (a re-issued card from AMEX because of my number being compromised somehow) I had the choice of either re-downloading my books after changing my CC info at the seller sites or just leaving them as as and keeping a record of my old number and the applicable dates. With encryption based on name and CC there are no device limits, user limits, time limits, or online dependencies. No deregistering/registering devices, releasing licenses, worrying about sellers going out of business, etc. Once you've downloaded a book, you can copy it onto as many devices as you want, whenever you want; all copies are exactly the same.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 7:09:31 PM PST
I'm gathering my wits in preparation, and will attempt it if I must. But I really hope not to need to.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 2:07:27 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 3, 2012 2:21:38 PM PST
Hmmm....I'll have to look at Calibre a bit closer to see what this means. I know what a command window is for Windows, but that may not be what they're talking about in the Calibre instructions.

Folina, I think they are talking about the little black and white DOS window you get when you click on Start/Run on a Windows PC, but I use a Mac so I can't test this to verify it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 1:21:46 PM PST
Damazon. You're a sharp pencil; I don't care what it says on the bathroom wall.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 1:20:01 PM PST
My experience is that people that use the word "nefarious" are usually up to some sneaky shit. Just sayin'.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 1:19:07 PM PST
That's what I'm concerned with; I don't mean to use it for any nefarious purposes. :0)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 1:09:48 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
I only strip DRM when I have to. I don't loan those books out. I have quite a few books in Microsoft Reader format that I would have lost access to if I didn't strip the DRM from them. Microsoft Reader is no longer supported.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 1:01:31 PM PST
I haven't tried, yet. It may seem deceptively complicated. I don't need/want to strip the DRM to loan books to the nations; I just think it would be smart to have a back up available in case Amazon adopts this must-have-cc business to access books you already paid to read.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 12:57:56 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
The instructions seem clear to me. I also find Calibre very easy to use.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:47:59 AM PST
That's what I'd understood to be true, but ... I ... dunno. It would be easier to buy a BK and just fill that sucker up as a back-up.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:44:30 AM PST
**Meya** says:
That isn't the same way I've seen it done. I thought once the plugin was installed, the process happened automatically when the book was taken into Calibre.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:26:45 AM PST
Dog Lover says:
LOL! I'm fairly fluent in that patois myself but just the download instructions for Calibre led me to close the browser tab.

Reminded me of that new-to-me chat-speak/online term - "tl:dr"!

Not worth the bother to me though I realize that some people swear by that tool.

DL

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:24:39 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
I speak geek and those instructions make my eyes glaze over. Anything about Calibre makes my brain hurt.

Posted on Dec 3, 2012 11:22:41 AM PST
P.S. This WILL strip the DRM, so once accomplished, it defeats the device-specific issue. But I was kind of hoping there was a goofball version for those of us who don't speak geek. :0)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:21:12 AM PST
I HAVE them (see below), but damned if I know what "open a command window" means. Which is why I asked.

Download and install Calibre first. Download Apprentice Alf's plugin for Calibre. Extract file tools_v5.1\Calibre_Plugins\K4MobiDeDRM_v04.2_plugin.zip from tools_v5.1.zip. Follow the installation instructions in tools_v5.1\Calibre_Plugins\README-K4MobiDeDRM-plugin.txt. The following paragraph reproduces the plugin installation instructions.

Go to Calibre's Preferences page. Do **NOT** select "Get Plugins to enhance calibre" as this is reserved for official calibre plugins", instead select "Change calibre behavior". Under "Advanced" click on the on the Plugins button. Click on the "Load plugin from file" button at the bottom of the screen. Use the file dialog button to select the plugin's zip file (K4MobiDeDRM_vXX_plugin.zip) and click the "Add" (or it may say "Open" button. Then click on the "Yes" button in the warning dialog that appears. A Confirmation dialog appears that says the plugin has been installed.

You can find the location of Kindle books on your PC or Mac from the options dialog in the Kindle desktop app. On the PC it is generally at Documents\My Kindle Content under the user's home folder.

Open a command window and switch to the folder that contains books downloaded by the Kindle app. To convert and import a single Kindle book, issue the following command:

calibredb add <azw file>
To convert all Kindle books issue:

FOR %f IN (*.azw) DO calibredb add %f
Once your books have been imported into Calibre, you can use it to convert the books to other formats, like EPUB, and export them.

Posted on Dec 3, 2012 11:06:58 AM PST
I found this in B&N's FAQ: "To access your protected purchases, you must have an authorized credit card on record with Barnes & Noble.com. It does not necessarily have to be the credit card you used to purchase your NOOK Book(s)."

B&N uses the customer's CC# as part of its DRM scheme - I'm not sure how new this policy of requiring a current CC really is. I seem to remember once having to enter a new CC# to replace an out-of-date card before I could access my Nook book library.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:05:48 AM PST
MommaCat says:
As far as a backup? Not stripping DRM. Would that be multiple kindles? Downloading all books to a computer or tablet?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:03:41 AM PST
**Meya** says:
I doubt if anyone will post the directions here. Google is your friend. You could always email someone to ask them.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 11:00:02 AM PST
Can I ask a really, really dumb.shit (referring to myself) question? How would one do this, the quickest, simplest way?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 10:57:27 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 3, 2012 10:59:11 AM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says: "Thank goodness I can strip DRM. I don't have to worry about nonsense like this."

You do realize that stripping DRM would have no affect on what this thread is about.. and that B&N decided to use this form of DRM (that they got from eReader.com) because it was, and still is, the only form of DRM that allows infinite copying and doesn't require a 3rd party DRM server to open the files (thus allowing for legal off-line reopening of a copy).

The irony of the bbc article and everyone who says "strip DRM to get around this" is that it if they stripped the DRM that means they kept a copy.. and if they kept a copy then this issue would not occur becuase it would not need to be downloaded from B&N and the book would still be infinitely copy/openable even with the DRM.

The real problem here is that B&N isn't allowing for customers to choose to not keep their CC updated when they decide to stop buying Nook books unless they want to lose access to the books in their account. That they would have to keep backup copies themselves. That is the issue at hand, not the DRM on individual books. Which, IMO, is a minor issue as I feel that one should keep personal backups anyway, esp since the DRM allows for it. Trust in oneself and not in B&N.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 10:55:07 AM PST
I think all retailers struggle with this; when I worked at a big box store, our policy was to put credit back on THAT card. It happened ALL THE TIME that people either lost the card (different number on the replacement), or they closed the account, or had paid it off and didn't WANT a credit on it.

The store would usually make an exception, but that company is known for it's great service. B&N ... not so much!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 10:46:11 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
Thanks.

I was reading about how B&N does stuff with the cc for copying the book. That alone is crazy. If the credit card number is stored with my book and at some point I need to re-enter THAT card number, I may not know which card I used or my car number has changed.

Happy I have a Kindle!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 10:44:09 AM PST
Partridge Pat in a Peach Tree says: "I am searching and can't find where anyone has quoted the B&N written policy."

Since an expired CC could be considered to no longer be an authorized one...

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/nook-books-frequently-asked-questions-faq/379003486

"Why do I need to enter a credit card to download my NOOK Book?
To access your protected purchases, you must have an authorized credit card on record with Barnes & Noble.com. It does not necessarily have to be the credit card you used to purchase your NOOK Book(s)."

Posted on Dec 3, 2012 10:41:46 AM PST
M42 says:
Without an active credit card you can't download free books either.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2012 10:29:29 AM PST
I once saw my sister's phone number on a bathroom wall. I didn't need another bathroom wall to say it to know that what it said was true.
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