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Posted on Dec 26, 2012 3:01:44 PM PST
That's one of the things we are here for...I'm glad that that little step helped you with your problem... We learn from doing..

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 1:02:45 PM PST
Mary in Fl says:
Snowlady--I can't believe it was that easy--Ammy sent 2 pages printed wirh instrs. on how to fix it. I had to print the ,list off and I haven't done it yet. Thanks--it was for simple for you.

Thanks Mary Ann

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 12:42:12 PM PST
Josie says:
Mary Ann - I was able to figure out how to get my game on my fire, with the help of Sandy. I had failed to switch the fire to the cloud rather than the device; once I did that, the game was there! It was pretty easy, once I knew what to do. Maybe this will help you, but I doubt I explained it very well!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 12:33:55 PM PST
Mary in Fl says:
smoothymom--not me--my family knows I am flaky so there would be lots of phone calls asking ???? Where

Mary Ann

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 12:31:36 PM PST
Mary in Fl says:
Josie--I am just catching up on posts but you are the 2nd person , so far, that has written about this. I am the 3rd. I contacted ammy and they sent a long list of things to do to get it. I haven't done it yet because it was so long I had to print it out and I will have to follow it out one step at a time. CONTACT ammy, tell them there is more than one with this problem and help you and FIX it. Since I already have maybe another unhappy customer will get through to them. I thought it was me but evidently not.

Mary Ann

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 7:38:07 AM PST
I'm at the new thread lol

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 6:24:32 AM PST
4Nbahu says:
@ Chaya, as to kitchen, it would have to be like the kosher dishes two whole sets. But worse is the smell for the vegetarians. Even onions and garlic are rarely used. I would do a joint family again in a heart beat, my experience was good. My Hindi is horrible my entire family speaks English, I only speak Hindi with staff so I have no gender no tenses. My husband made me stop trying to speak it to the kids as I was ruining their Hindi.

Posted on Dec 26, 2012 6:24:20 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 26, 2012 6:42:05 AM PST
TerryInTexas says:
Uh, in case anyone else starts at the bottom looking for the new post.....

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 6:11:41 AM PST
8nights to celebrate my new found talent I sent another surprise. Hopefully it worked ?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 6:09:26 AM PST
Rofl that driving sounds hectic but had to be hysterical at times. Can't really argue with a cow, camel, and elephant without losing. It's funny you mentioned bathrooms. I was thinking joint families and sharing a bathroom would be quite hard for me.As for cooking with grandparents in the house I would imagine they do the cooking? If so why can't a meat dish be made in a separate pot in the same kitchen by the matriarch who cooks? Do you miss living in a joint family enough you would opt to do it again? How long did it take to learn to speak the language/dialect assuming you did it via immersion rather than formal schooling? As to driving I commiserate I've spent entire days schlepping because of kids and community requirements. I still have a young (10) one but health restrictions keep me in a lot. Thank you for taking the time to share , it's nice to have an interactive kindle book albeit non-fiction ;@)

Posted on Dec 26, 2012 4:39:17 AM PST
@ 4Nbahu Thank you for writing so much about what it is like to live in India. It's like the "Blue door" starts we sometimes have. I think you should do a start or two and take us on a virtual trip.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 3:37:30 AM PST
4Nbahu says:
@ Chaya I usually just use Rs 50 to $1 rate. It makes it easy to do the math. Joint family is usually Parents, male children and their families. India promotes the 2 child policy and most people I know have two very few have 3. It is not unheard of to have houses with 11 + people in it. I have heard of one that had 52 people (that was a very big house). As with the rest of the world and more and more jobs requiring transfers, many "nuclear" households are cropping up. Often the parents will consider one of their children's houses a base and move around the others houses as health and inclination dictates.

I lived in a joint family for over 10 years, only hubby's job made us leave. I was lucky I was able to have my own portion of the house and a separate kitchenette (because I eat nonveg and the main kitchen was strictly vegetarian) I think having great grandparents and grandparents in the house while at times made things interesting, I wouldn't have missed it. But I also believe two women cannot share a kitchen. One person only should have control of the pantry.

As for driving, when children were young I was on the road on average 3-4 hours a day. Not so many kms but a ton of minutes. try and drive with cars, trucks, buses (that believe they own the road), three wheeler taxis, rickshaws, cows, a camel here or there, an elephant..motorcyles, bicycles and pedestrians who don't use side walks even when they are available. Oh and when I was doing this, there were very few public bathrooms that I would enter to use. No stopping off at McDonald's for a rest stop.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 3:12:08 AM PST
Not TMI. The arguments over gas price/consumption are a pet peeve of mine. I used to have heated conversations with an English friend that while they pay more per gallon/liter they have literally no distance. We were paying 4$ per gallon this summer but driving mileage unheard of in other countries. I drove 60 miles everyday to take my daughter to Hebrew day school few years ago. It was 30 each direction and did not include the driving required for other family needs. My friend has since moved to USA and I giggle everytime she complains about how far she has to travel for certain events.I don't have any exchange rate knowledge for rs comparison to the dollar :/. Joint families meaning you live with your in-laws? Hard to acclimate to the changes?

Posted on Dec 26, 2012 2:32:09 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 26, 2012 2:46:45 AM PST
4Nbahu says:
@Chaya in a metropolitan area Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkatta I would say Rs 20,000 to Rs 200,000. Rent for a two bedroom apartment in a decent neighborhood, 2nd floor, no lift, 1 parking space (if you are lucky), can cost Rs 50,000 a month. That is why joint families are still the vogue. Most gov't jobs and many management jobs come with a flat for this reason. If you get a flat, car (usually petrol costs only), medical reimbursement. then the person is doing fine. Gov't schools are horrible, the public schools (private) are decent but teach everything by rote can cost a family Rs 3,000-Rs 30,000 a month/ child . It is actually cheaper to send kids to college and masters programs than it was for their K-12 schooling.

I hope that wasn't TMI....oh by the way I pay over $5/gallon of gas. When I go home and they complain when it is $3.75 I just shake my head.

ETA anyone can ask me anything trust me I have probably been asked before. If I think the question is too personal I'll just ignore it. No harm no foul.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012 2:13:09 AM PST
Sounds fascinating! What a change from USA standards of living. I watched a HGTV show once sitting in a waiting room lol. It was about people relocating and buying homes in different countries. The choices however were all apartment types rather than a typical single family home. The apartments kitchens were quite stark and colorful . I loved the breath taking views of the country as it is very different from what Americans are used to. Please feel free to share more I really enjoyed your post. You made me laugh over nice inlaws and ok hubby lol. Love a great sense of humor. May I be so bold as to ask what a middle class income would amount to? Everytime we drive to borough park to shop and navigate surrounding areas for things we need I wish we had a driver lol. My husband jokes I need blinders like a horse because I panic each time he narrowly escapes ensuring the horrible untimely death of everyone in our car and any innocent bystanders on the side walks. Ok enough blabbering from me.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 25, 2012 10:51:20 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 25, 2012 11:08:54 PM PST
4Nbahu says:
NOT FREE NOW An Invitation to Indian Cooking NOT FREE NOW

As a start for North Indian Cooking. In my opinion this is the best beginners Indian Cooking Cookbook for western kitchens. BECAUSE she says two big cans of chick peas. Instead of soak overnight. It is how my hubby and I learned how to cook. Because you know he is male no one taught him to cook anything. Even when sent across the ocean without any staff. I will put together a simple North Indian meal first because that is what I am used to . I'll try and post by tomorrow or Friday.

yep hubby Indian...that's how I got here...luckily great in-laws, not a bad hubby either.

ETA clarification ..almost all middle class households would have staff...there are over 1 billion people here and therefore physical labor is cheep. Most houses would have (at least part time) someone to come and do floors daily , someone for bathrooms, outside sweeper (if they own house, sweeper is usually designated an area within a neighborhood, then the houses in that area would actually hire the person to sweep outside areas i.e. driveway and porches.) the garbage man comes daily except for Sunday, inside the house most also have a cook and a cleaner (either can be full time or part time), let's not forget the drivers. Not because driving is hard, but because metropolitan areas are notorious for no parking spaces. So half of the time people get a driver just so they don't have to walk a km to/from the parking space.

By the way never ask a driver to do a cleaner's work....or a cleaner to do a sweeper's work....bad bad bad....pride thing....status thing...

Posted on Dec 25, 2012 10:40:18 PM PST
C Hayes says:
4Nbahu - I would also love it if you'd post some recipes if you have time as I LOVE Indian food. Veggie is great for me, or chicken. I don't eat lamb or beef.

Posted on Dec 25, 2012 10:38:14 PM PST
Lyn says:
Just to remind you, it IS Wednesday or Boxing Day :)

4N - if you want to post some Southern Indian recipes ..... veggie is fine ... If for some reason, I have a hard time finding an ingredient all I have to do is ask my SO to ask her coworkers where to find it :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 25, 2012 10:36:26 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 25, 2012 10:37:58 PM PST
@4N yes to access but very very limited as to what's kosher. We don't mix any meat and dairy but I cook lamb and beef purchased from the butchers. I have learned to make perfect basmati rice (yea me). I'd like to learn a few more dishes and mustard oil sounds interesting!

May I ask if you married someone from india?

Posted on Dec 25, 2012 10:24:56 PM PST
C Hayes says:
@Ketta, thank you!! I got them both, super excited for both of them :)
Hoping I got mine to my secret santa recipient...haven't seen the person post here at all and had to search for the name in all discussions.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 25, 2012 10:21:32 PM PST
4Nbahu says:
@ Chaya regarding Indian Food, In the North we use a lot of mustard oil. If you want authentic flavor. Granted for the breads you would want Ghee but I assume you can't eat that with beef? red meats? any meat? if it is just beef then you are home free because in India it is mainly mutton (goat or lamb, your choice) If it is any meat I will teach you some vegetarian main courses (I married into a veg family, though I didn't give up meat I have come to enjoy vegetarian meals)

In the South a lot of coconut is used, coconut oil, coconut milk, shredded coconut. So their food has a different flavor.

Also do you have access to an Indian Store?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 25, 2012 10:17:57 PM PST
ebook addict says:
Don't even want to tell you what my DH says when I tell him about something I've read here. Some people don't get it & never will. Although I admit I didn't understand a couple of years ago when DD would be here visiting & spend all most all evening chatting on Facebook.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 25, 2012 10:13:14 PM PST
4Nbahu says:
@Chaya kindling is so easy, I love sci-fi, paranormal stuff that I can't get here. I also enjoy looking at the picture books and cookbooks by the zillions. I left one of my kindles with my sister so she can enjoy the bounty. Both my husband and I are such avid readers that I am being pushed out of my house. Hubby won't give any away. So now I only by ebooks unless there is a very good reason. i.e. the new Percy Jackson I have all them as DTBs so I don't want to switch now. Unfortunately I can't talk the hubby into switching to the Kindle or iPad. So when he buys a regular popular paperback I send it to my in-laws so they can read it. Then I forget to pick it up.

Posted on Dec 25, 2012 10:10:21 PM PST
Ketta says:
First, I want to *again* say thank you to my fantastically generous (and still anonymous) Secret Santa for all THREE of my books! I apologize for being so long to pick them up, the WiFi here at the resort is just horrific. However, I do seem to have them all now, and really look forward to reading them.

Another thank you to Wendy AKA LoB, and to Janine, I love my surprise prezzies.

Finally, a first (and enthusiastic) thanks to JoJo Pals for my unexpected gift, you're joining good company in The FB&C Guild of Gifters and Do-Gooders. :D

Quick note to C. Hayes, there should have been another book (on the 24th) that was part of your Secret Santa too... glad you'll enjoy the Estep book.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 25, 2012 9:59:43 PM PST
4Nbahu says:
@Chaya I think they now require a phone number. For people who just switch from one country to another to get around the can't purchase outside ...rules. As I travel between US and India I have two addresses I switch between. I have access to different books and sometimes different prices by switching between the two.
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