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Paperwhite 3G versus Keyboard 3g-thoughts?

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Initial post: Dec 14, 2012 5:32:48 AM PST
So, I've never had an e-reader before, so I've been looking at all the Kindles. (Didn't consider any other products since Amazon is my god;)

The Keyboard appeals to me more because (not ranked in order:

A: Has higher reviews and more reviews

B: Cheaper even without ads,

C: Not smudging up a touchscreen,

D: Having a little button to press to turn page versus having to drag my finger across the screen (for background I have an iPod Touch.)

E: More storage space

F: Comes with something besides USB charger.

Regarding the Paperwhite 3 g, the only bonuses I really see are:

A: Can read in the dark.

B: Is newer

C: Smaller/lighter (and I have small hands)

D: More font choices

Other than that it seems to me like the Keyboard is a superior product. Seems like a lot of reviews I've read that the actual light causes nothing but issues, odd colors, distracting colors, ruining readability.

I honestly don't do tons of reading in the dark, I have no one I have to worry about keeping awake and I've seen people using older Kindles (not the model with a keyboard) in low light conditions just fine.

I do see for the Keyboard I could get a lighted cover/case-and I'm assuming I could turn the light off when not needed.

For anyone that has owned both-which do you like better and why? Has the Paperwhite 3G actually wooed you away from the Keyboard?

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:38:10 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2012 5:39:14 AM PST
The Keyboard has more reviews because it has been out for over 2 years.

The Paperwhite does not have a "normal" touch screen --- it does not show fingerprints like my smartphone does. You don't drag your finger to change pages, you just tap the screen. This is easy to do one-handed while holding the kindle in your right or left hand (unless you have some physical problem with your hands).

I have a KK and PW. I don't use my KK any more. I never read in complete dark but find the PW is nice for when you may not have optimum lighting.

ETA: The PW also has a few extra software features: X-ray (nice when trying to remember the background of a character) and Translation (if you are connected to the internet you can get instant translation to and from various languages).

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:41:26 AM PST
I have both (and a number of others). The PaperWhite is a great reader. I just don't like touchscreens. My sister does, so it's become her go-to reader.

One other thing you may or may not care about - the KK offers text-to-speech and the ability to play audio books and music. The PW has no audio capability.

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:42:32 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2012 5:43:43 AM PST
T. Cook says:
Two differences you might also take note of:
Kindle Keyboard: 4GB storage space
Audio capabilities

Kindle Paperwhite: 2GB storage space
No Audio capabilities.

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:42:40 AM PST
Surveyah says:
I have had my Kindle Keyboard for over 2 years and have had little problem with it (nothing that Amazon CS couldn't help me with). It has never failed, and the battery still holds a good charge. I have the lighted cover (which I bought at the same time), and that too is still running strong. I can't say if the light has gotten dimmer - it may have - but I would have to get a new cover to compare it to. I have not played with the Paperwhite, but I prefer my KK with cover light. I have several other tablets with lighted displays to use if I need to do something else. I keep my KK for reading only and it goes with me everywhere I do. Also, the 3G has always worked flawlessly, as well as the wifi.

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:47:59 AM PST
I always like the idea of more storage just in case.

Since I have the iPod touch, I'm not worried about Audio-and I honestly loathe books on tape.

The reason being, I can read far faster than the person speaking.

Speaking of which, someone who has both, have you noticed a difference in how fast you can "turn" the page?

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:52:35 AM PST
Kribu says:
I used and loved my Kindle 3 (now called Kindle Keyboard) for nearly two years. Since getting the Paperwhite a couple of months ago I haven't as much as touched my K3, in spite of not being a huge fan of touchscreens.

The touchscreen is reasonable to use (and yes, a tap is enough to change the page - no swiping or dragging necessary, apart from the home page / list of books, where you need to swipe to go to the next page), although it doesn't always react with a single tap. Whether fingerprints will be an issue or not is a very personal thing - I know that the great majority of touchscreen Kindle users swear that "it doesn't show fingerprints at all", which, in my eyes and on my screen, is incorrect - it's nowhere near LCD level but at certain angles and with light coming at it from certain ways, they're certainly visible on the screen.

Not enough to be a problem for me - but as I said, it's a personal matter; many people obviously can't see them at all but that doesn't mean they won't be visible for your eyes and in your lighting conditions.

I would still prefer side buttons for page turns; it's the one feature I really miss compared to my K3 as a few months' regular usage has shown that in my case, tapping the page every 30 seconds has made my hands ache more than resting my thumb on the side page turn button and pressing lightly (different kind of motion). However, the light (which I keep on about level 5 - I don't like it stronger than that even with plenty of ambient light) and the font choices (I have found that I like Palatino much better than the default Kindle font) have made me prefer the Paperwhite to K3 so much that the touchscreen inconvenience is something I can live with.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 5:52:36 AM PST
I've not noticed any difference.

As far as storage, on the KK after about 300 books mine started slowing down. Other people have experienced the same thing. Most people have no real need to have every book on the Kindle at all times. The books are always in your archive on your Amazon account. Easy to download as you need. On the PW I currently have about 100 books with no slow down in speed. I really don't need 100 books on there at once.

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 5:55:33 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2012 6:03:42 AM PST
R. D. Clark says:
I have both, in wifi-only versions. They're both fine e-readers. The PW's independence from ambient lighting conditions is a bigger plus than I thought it would be. Turning pages is a simple tap, no swiping required, and the non-reflective matte screen finish does not pick up fingerprints the way an iThing does. I prefer the virtual keyboard for entering search terms and the like, and generally find it easier to control vs the tiny keyboard buttons on the KK. The PW is a more refined ereader than the KK, IMO.

But the Keyboard is a classic and includes audio features (particularly text-to-speech) that the PW lacks. I keep mine next to my easy chair where there is always the same light in the same place. I'm not a fan of case-mounted or clip on reading lights with Kindles; the lighting is inherently dramatically uneven, and it can be hard to find an angle that doesn't produce a hotspot (e-ink screens are non-reflective but they are not entirely glare-free) with a concentrated light source that close to the screen. Page-turn buttons are nice, although for some they can limit the ways you cna grip the device without accidentally triggering page-turns.

So there are pros and cons; it's good to get other people's perspectives to balance your preconceptions. If you can go hands-on it would be even better, at Staples, Best Buy, or BJ's among other places.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 5:57:49 AM PST
If you want Text-to-Speech, you'll HAVE to go with the KK. If that's not important to you, the PW is a beautiful little device.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 5:59:57 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2012 6:00:41 AM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
One other thing to think about. With the Kindle Keyboard 3G you can also surf the web with the built in browser. It is clunky and not the best experience but works in a pinch. The Paperwhite does not have this feature with 3G.

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 6:05:22 AM PST
Actually the Paperwhite 3g (according to Amazon) does have the "experimental" browser as well.

I'm not worried about audio or text to speech at all.

I posted here to get thoughts on both. I plan on hopefully going to Best Buy and see if they have some I can play around with.

If I could give the Keyboard its own light source I think I'd be happy-to have it there at need.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 6:13:48 AM PST
The PW has the browser but you can't go to just any website unless you are using wifi. Using 3G you can only go to Amazon and Wikipedia.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 6:14:09 AM PST
Kribu says:
I think what Jeff means is that you cannot browse the Internet (other than the Kindle store and Wikipedia) when using the 3G connection on the Paperwhite. It has the browser, yes, but you need to use Wi-Fi if you want to browse the Internet in general.

The Kindle Keyboard doesn't have that limitation - you can browse sites other than the Kindle store and Wikipedia also when connected via 3G.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 6:31:07 AM PST
Oh thank you for the clarification! That's a point also in the Keyboard's favor.

Granted, I don't plan on doing all my surfing on the kindle-as I do have a laptop at home. But since I don't have a fancy cell phone, I would like at least the limited ability to say check wikipedia, or bus schedules perhaps.

I guess next question:

Do you find yourselves using a case/cover a lot with either?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 6:38:24 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2012 6:40:38 AM PST
Kribu says:
I had the Amazon non-lighted leather cover for the K3 (I was lucky enough to get one that never caused any trouble - some of the earlier ones caused the Kindle to malfunction), and I also have an Amazon leather cover for the Paperwhite.

A hard cover is pretty much a necessity if you plan to take the Kindle anywhere at all, as the eInk screen is possibly the most fragile component of the Kindle. It won't break just by sitting calmly and reading it, but torque or pressure on the screen may kill it very easily and quickly, so having it in a pocket or purse with any other items or where it might have any torque applied to it at all is NOT a good idea, unless you have a hard cover for it (a sleeve would be good enough if you kept it at home, but I wouldn't recommend it when you take the Kindle with you).

My cover sits on my Kindle (both Kindles, both covers) at all times - it folds back very easily for reading and doesn't get in the way. The Amazon original cover for the Paperwhite has the extra nifty feature of turning the Kindle on when you open the cover (for non-ad-supported versions; for ad-supported versions you'd still need to swipe the screen to get past the screensaver).

I don't really use it outside home at all, but when the cover is closed, it also protects the screen from dust, and as I have two cats, I also feel a little easier when I know the Kindle is at least somewhat protected from someone walking over it or knocking it down from the table (I try to never leave it where the cats can get to it, but over the years it's not something one can always guarantee).

ETA: Of course the covers do add both bulk and weight to the Kindle, although the Paperwhite cover is much smaller and lighter than the K3 cover. However, even with the cover, the Kindle is still lighter, thinner and far more comfortable to use than the average 300 page mass market paperback, so I don't find it an issue.

So, yes - do get a cover.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 6:42:43 AM PST
I know I said I love my PW, AND I DO! But that said, I *have* used my KK in a pinch when I needed to see a phone number or address or something from an email, and only had the KK with me.

I've literally stopped at a Starbucks to use the wi-fi and get on the web with the KK browser. It IS clunky and infuriating, but it DOES work!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 6:48:59 AM PST
Marware covers are nice and so are the ones from M-Edge (you may want to visit their website to see all the options and what they have on sale)

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 1:17:14 PM PST
So, I just got back from both Best Buy and Barnes & Noble. Couldn't get any models to do much of anything at B&N.

At Best Buy they were pushing the Kindle Fire's like crazy-you could barely find any merchandise for Paperwhite.

They had both a Paperwhite and straight Kindle, no keyboard, not really other models to look at.

Straight kindle, the buttons and having to use basically what amounts to an arrow key around the screen drove me nuts-didn't seem that fast to respond. Also actually didn't like the buttons on the side either.

The Paperwhite, the demo mode wouldn't let me change the font or font size, but I was able to test the brightness levels and responsiveness. Pretty responsive.

The Kindle Fire (no HD) impressed me with how fast I could go through pages, find a book, and just how much zippier it was.

So now I'd say it's between Paperwhite 3G and Kindle Fire, not sure about one of the HD's as it's a little out of my price range.

I'd change the topic to Paperwhite 3G versus Kindle Fire if I could. I would still plan on using the Kindle Fire as an e-reader mostly.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 1:39:26 PM PST
Fires are awesome, too! If you plan to read a lot on the Fire, you can play around with the background and type colors, and also the brightness. Some people are comfortable using the sepia tone for their books, and others like the white type on black background. Experiment!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 1:51:17 PM PST
R. D. Clark says:
Fires can do many more things than e-ink Kindles. If you need those things, then it's worth considering. But consider also that if you're looking at Fires, then you're looking at tablets, and you really owe it to yourself to look at competing tablets like the Nexus 7 or 10, the various Galaxies, or even the iPads. You can install Kindle reading apps on any of them.

The downside of tablets is their shorter battery life, their problems with glare and fingerprints (just like your iPod Touch), the missing features in the apps (including on the Fire) like Collections, their greater weight and size (a few ounces make a difference if you read for hours), and the potential for visual discomfort from direct backlighting on tablets, vs. diffused reflected light on e-ink readers (including the PaperWhite). And while they do more, they cost more.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 2:03:54 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2012 2:04:36 PM PST
R. Nelson says:
I have a Kindle Keyboard (KK), Touch, Paperwhite, 1st Generation Fire, New Fires 8.9" HD, 8.9" HD LTE and a 7" HD on my account.

I loved my KK but did not enjoy the Touch. However I have fallen in love with my Paperwhite, I don't have any screen color blotch issues on mine. No noticible fingerprints from tapping the screen to turn the page. I used the KK with an Amazon Lighted Cover, yes, you controlled when the light was pulled out from the cover and used. I can not read for long periods on the Fire, which uses the same type of screen as your iTouch or a computer. My daughter can read just fine on her Fire (but she prefers real books still) and my sister uses Sepia on her Fire to help minimize the eye strain. But she still has issues if she reads a long time.

I only use the Fire to read a magazine once in awhile, apps, web.

Your mileage will vary, but if you have other devices for playing and are looking for primarily an e-reader then maybe the Paperwhite is the way to go.

Your need for the 3G model on the paperwhite could vary as well. If you have ample access to wifi and don't travel a lot to places without wifi then you may not need the 3G model and can go to wifi only. 3G to download a book anywhere has its pluses, but I opt'd out on the paperwhite model. The KK and Touch have it, but I probably used it only a few times, and just becuase, not out of true need.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2012 2:35:41 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Just remember with the Fire you need a WiFi connection at home to use it to its fullest potential. It does not come with the 3G option if that is important to you. Also consider the battery life. The e-ink models will give you several days between charges whereas the Fire will need to be charged almost daily.

Posted on Dec 14, 2012 4:30:18 PM PST
ToranagaSama says:
Just want to say regarding the need for a cover. I have had a KK in and around the time they first came out.

I have never had a cover. I did not find the cost to be reasonable. Though, most importantly, I wanted to be as light and easy as a paperback. Adding a cover would make it heavier and clumsy. I have had a lot of experience with electronic devices. Examining the KK I found that the soft plastic housing was unlikely to crack on impact; and the same for the screen. For me that fact nixed the need for a cover.

The KK is VERY rugged!!

I have dropped it many times with no ill effect to the functioning nor the screen. I do take precaution that undue pressure is never applied to the device or screen, but no speciaal precaution other than placing it in a special pouch of my high quality shoulder bag which does has a laptop compartment which I do not use. The pouch is located on the outer flap giving me easy access. I also keep papers in the pouch as well. The pouch is slim and just a bit larger than the KK.

There are no nicks or scratches from use. The screen edges have collected some slight dirt, which can easily be cleaned with a Qtip and alcohol.

Now, there is some wear and tear, which I cannot directly attribute to the drops; but, may verwell be consequent to that. There are two micro fractures in the housing at each of the bottom screen corners emanating from the corner into the housing. So far there has been Zero effect. These may simply stress fractures as the result of a slight fault in the design and/or plastic quality.

Lastly, hard drops will losen the rear panel very slightly, which can easily be snapped back into place. This has occurred a number of times. Upon any drop, the rear s/b examined and if needed snapped back.

Now, that siad, there is one spot, directly above the miniUSB connector which refuses to be snapped back. I use very little pressure to "snap back". In this sport a bit more pressjre is needed, than I choose to apply. With the proper tool it w/b an easy fix. Probably with a little dedicated concentration I could snap it back.

Anyway, it doesn't effect anything whatsoever, so I just leave it. My only concern is that dust might find its way into the inside thru this very slight opening.

A case may have prevented this, but I iimagined I'd be onto the next device by the time any wear and tear became an issue.

I am VERY VERY pleased with the rugged nature of the KK, and this was a strong reason I purchased the device, as opposed to an Ipad, which needs to be treated FAR FAR more delicately.

Can anyone comment on the ruggedness of the PW?? Anyone NOT use a case? Anyone drop one.

Oh, btw, another reason I don't use the case, it won't fit into the pouch of my bag!!

Posted on Dec 15, 2012 5:38:00 AM PST
I guess now I'm contemplating if I want the Kindle Fire (no hd), or whether I want the version of the Paperwhite that has 3g or not-whether the extra money is worth it.

Besides what Amazon has when you compare/contrast the entire Kindle family-anyone else notice any difference between the Paperwhite and the Paperwhite 3g?
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