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Can I read Economist on Kindle fire with my subscription with Economist (not amazon)?


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Initial post: Oct 24, 2011 8:26:04 AM PDT
I am a little unsure what kind of apps are available on Kindle Fire.
I am torn in between kindle fire or ipad bc I learn that kindle fire may not have net flix apps. Whether the kindle fire allows me to read my economist magazine with my subscription with the economist (not thru the amazon) is the deciding factor for me.
Does anyone know if I can or cannot?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 24, 2011 8:28:51 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 24, 2011 8:29:51 AM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
B. In says: I am a little unsure what kind of apps are available on Kindle Fire.

Who isn't. They are still working on content. No one here has anything but guesses for you. You will have to wait like the rest of us to find out.

Posted on Oct 24, 2011 9:18:17 AM PDT
R. D. Clark says:
The Economist has an Android app. It will be up to them to offer it through the Amazon app store.

Posted on Oct 24, 2011 9:23:34 AM PDT
The iPad has a much larger screen than the Fire. It also has access to the iTunes store, with thousands and thousands of apps. The iPad also costs a lot more than the Fire. Which to buy depends on the size screen you want, and how many different things you want to do with the tablet, and how much you are willing to spend. Don't forget that the iPad has GPS, the ability to have 3G connectivity (if you pay for it), bluetooth, etc, none of which the Fire has.

I have an iPad, so feel no need for the Fire. Of course, the Fire is more portable, but much more restricted in what it can do.

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 8:35:44 AM PST
WF Colorado says:
I just received my Kindle Fire and it is an impressive reader and the retrieval of music from the cloud is quick; better than on my pc. I to want to read the Economist (and other magazines and newspapers I subscribe to) on my Kindle Fire as part of my subscription, like I can on the iPad or iPhone. There is no app yet. Hopefully it will come soon.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 8:07:25 PM PST
Michael P. says:
I was pretty annoyed about this too (as a subscriber to print; have it on my Android phone). However, after a bit of searching, it's REALLY easy to side-load apps (I'm not an engineer or anything, but have decent comfort in doing this sort of thing). This is NOT rooting the device (does not impact warranty, functionality, etc.); but you can actually install/run apps that are in the Android marketplace that may not be in the AMZN one - some won't run well since they aren't optimized for Fire, but the Economist runs beautifully! Check out this how-to (literally 3 steps) or ping me directly if no luck: http://www.tested.com/news/how-to-sideload-android-apps-on-the-amazon-kindle-fire-in-3-steps/3179/
-mike

Posted on Jan 3, 2012 7:35:42 PM PST
Mike D says:
Just to re-iterate so that less people share the frustration with this issues that I did - as M Pacifico says it is very simple to side-load Android apps not in the amazon store. http://www.tested.com/news/how-to-sideload-android-apps-on-the-amazon-kindle-fire-in-3-steps/3179/

I was extremely upset after purchasing the Kindle fire literally just to read TIME and The Economist only to find that there was no Economist App in the Amazon market, and then after calling Amazon I was told by a customer service rep in India over and over that I would have to purchase a 2nd subscription to the Economist through Amazon's kindle bookstore if I wanted it on the Kindle. After telling them that 2 subscriptions to the Economist cost more than the Kindle Fire device itself, their only response was that it is the users preference to purchase subscriptions for the device of their choice....i.e. they read from their computer screen a general response that is so vague it doesn't answer your question.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 4, 2013 8:41:08 AM PST
Not everybody wishes to be locked into the iTunes centered iOS ecosystem. For some, that is a significant deal breaker. It is up to Amazon and the software developers to recognize that and make apps for non iOS devices.

Posted on Feb 6, 2013 4:16:44 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 6, 2013 6:39:43 PM PST
J. Seidman says:
I'll just add another voice saying that sideloading the Economist app works beautifully. I have an 8.9" HD, and the app looks just beautiful. You should have an application file called something like "uk.co.economist-1.apk".

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 6, 2013 6:06:55 PM PST
The Kindle Fire HD DOES have bluetooth capability!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 6, 2013 6:48:24 PM PST
M. Ratcheson says:
In 2011, when the message to which you are replying was written, there was only one version of the Kindle Fire, and it didn't support bluetooth. You are correct that the Fire HD does have bluetooth, but it didn't exist back then.

Posted on Nov 18, 2014 3:58:34 AM PST
Frank Cohen says:
And there's still no Kindle Fire app for the Economist even though there's an Android app. That's ridiculous.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 4:24:53 AM PST
T. Cook says:
"And there's still no Kindle Fire app for the Economist even though there's an Android app. That's ridiculous."

That's right! The Economist should have produced one ages ago! Complain to the Economist again!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 4:38:59 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 18, 2014 4:39:44 AM PST
Tim W. says:
The Economist app is available from 1Mobile (or other non-GP app market) and the magazine may also be purchased from Zinio, also available from an alternate app market. T. Cook is correct, if The Economist wanted an app on the Amazon app market, they'd have one there. Complain to The Economist about it.

Edit: Omitted word

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 4:48:20 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 18, 2014 4:49:48 AM PST
Frank Cohen says:
I'm beginning to think that Amazon's the obstacle. I think Amazon is trying to get Fire users to subscribe to the Kindle edition of the Economist, which is the property of Amazon, not the Economist. So, I have a feeling that Amazon is protecting its property by discouraging the Economist from having a Fire-optimized app. Think about it. Why would Economist have an app for all tablets except for the Fire? It makes no financial sense for them. Amazon, though, is the owner of Economist on Kindle. Amazon purchases the rights to Economist content to generate the Kindle Edition. I learned all of this in exchanges with multiple members of the Economist and Amazon customer service department. The Economist does not, in fact, own its Kindle edition. Therefore, it's Amazon with the incentive to discourage Fire users from using an app that gives them access to the print/digital subscription they have directly with the Economist. It's possible I'm wrong. The highest I got were managers in each customer service department. Anyhow, there is a way to get the Android app on the fire by directly downloading the .apk file for the latest version of the Economist app (from the "alternate app market," as said above). However, that's a workaround using an app not optimized for the Fire's version of the Android OS, but it does work well so far. Either way, there should not have to be a workaround. The app needs to be made available.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 4:58:07 AM PST
"The app needs to be made available."

By the Economist.

Posted on Nov 18, 2014 5:56:39 AM PST
Michael says:
There are numerous cases where both a Kindle-formatted edition of a magazine or newspaper and a free App are available. Amazon isn't blocking Economist from releasing their App.

Posted on Nov 18, 2014 10:26:45 AM PST
PS56k says:
so, here in Nov 2014, just for general reference...
what's the latest/best set of detailed steps
to find, sideload, and install 3rd party apps like the Economist ?

- where to find the APK file for the app
- download to PC
- then connect Fire to PC, and copy the file where ?
- then what ?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 10:43:28 AM PST
Here is the easiest way:

Swipe down from the top of the screen, tap Settings, tap Applications. Enable Apps from Unknown Sources.

Then install ES File Explorer from the Amazon Android Store.

Launch Silk, navigate to www.1mobile.com, tap 1Mobile Market, then use the Download option on the Tablet choice.

Then go back to Home on the Fire, tap Apps, ES File Explorer. Select the Download folder, tap the 1MobileMarket_i.apk link, select Install.

1Mobile is now an App, under the Apps tab on the Fire. You can download many apps, such as the nook app  from the 1Mobile App.

Please note that the 1Mobile app does have ads. Usually of the flashing red warning variety. Ignore them.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 2:08:18 PM PST
Bill F. says:
I use Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com/) on a workstation to manage ebooks but also newspapers and magazines all of which I read on a Paperwhite, Most of the periodicals download well, including the Economist. Calibre also support tablets.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2014 4:40:58 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 30, 2014 1:00:07 PM PST
Frank Cohen says:
Actually, Michael, I don't see a single Fire app for a newspaper or news magazine, offered as a Kindle Edition, that allows you to authenticate using a direct print or digital subscription with the publisher of the publication. I could be wrong but please find for me Fire apps for major newspapers or magazines (offered as Kindle Editions) that allow you to authenticate with a direct print or digital subscription with the publisher. You said "there are numerous cases" but I don't see one.

Posted on Nov 30, 2014 12:19:49 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 30, 2014 12:29:25 PM PST
Frank Cohen says:
Good news. Though it's a work in progress and a little buggy, a Kindle Fire app (i.e., one designed and optimized for the Fire) is finally available from The Economist as of about a week ago. Go here: http://www.economist.com/digital. The problem is that the app is a plug-in on the Silk browser rather than a free-standing app. It operates like the Economist app for desktop Chrome. Anyhow, I think this "plug-in" aspect makes the app clunkier than the one I use on my Droid phone, as the Android app is a free-standing one. Interestingly, you can't find this app in the Kindle App store but only on the Economist's own website. My impression is that Amazon is making it difficult for publications and their app developers to make apps for Fire users because Amazon is determined to keep all Fire users in its content environment, in this case its Kindle content environment. So, finally, I'm finding Kindle Fire apps (the Economist being the first) for those who subscribe directly with the publication but Amazon's not making it easy. You can still get a free-standing Economist app on the Fire but it has to be sideloaded. I do this with other publications I subscribe to using 1Mobile app, as described by Meya *Kindle Pro" but this 1Mobile app remains an inefficient workaround in that 1) you can't get the apps in the Fire Apps store and 2) you are using apps that are not optimized for Kindle Fire's OS.

Posted on Nov 30, 2014 12:57:41 PM PST
Frank Cohen says:
Michael, Meya *Kindle Pro*, Tim W or T. Cook, I don't understand this compulsion to defend Amazon. Please go into the Kindle Fire Apps store. Click on "newspapers" and "magazines." Nothing, nada, zero Fire apps for any newspapers/magazines offered in Kindle Edition form aimed at direct digital/print subscribers. Ok. I exaggerate. There's the Wall Street Journal. That's the only one I could find. The New York Times, People Magazine, Washington Post, Sports Illustrated -- look for them. Nothing. No Kindle Fire apps for their daily or weekly editions. Yet, NYT, People, WP, SI and the Economist (until a week ago) have apps for all other tablet OS's (Windows, Apple iOS, Android). So why would they not develop or be reluctant to develop one for the Fire OS? Makes no business sense. Why leave out Fire users? My conclusion is that it's Amazon's determination to not have the Kindle Fire be used for publications offered by Amazon as a Kindle edition.

Posted on Nov 30, 2014 1:07:15 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 30, 2014 1:08:50 PM PST
Michael says:
Really?

The Wall Street Journal
The Detroit News
Boston Herald
The Washington Post

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 30, 2014 2:21:29 PM PST
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