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Initial post: Oct 27, 2011 7:41:28 AM PDT
Nancy says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 7:43:08 AM PDT
Because Amazon is not willing to pay for you to download or stream videos and movies on a 3G connection.

Posted on Oct 27, 2011 7:47:06 AM PDT
I'm curious if they are going to offer a trade in program. My Kindle keyboard 3G is not very old, few months. I would love to trade it in for the touchscreen 3G. Any ideas?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 7:47:24 AM PDT
Sounds like the answer is no.

Amazon can't be expected to provide free 3G access on the Fire. If you need a tablet with 3/4G access, drop in at AT&T or Verizon. Check out what they offer. If you find a 7" tablet for $200 with free 3G access, let us know.

In case you really don't know...you will have to pay not only a hefty monthly fee, but you are also going to have to sign a 2 year contract. So, $200 for the device, plus $50 a month for unlimited data, times 2 years, $1,400 by the end of the 2 years.

Still wonder why Amazon isn't offering free 3G?

BTW, the Fire will have internet access, provided by your own WiFi network, or from a free WiFi hotspot, such as offered by McDonalds. Why do you expect to be able to use a secure network? We pay for our cable internet to the tune of $53 a month. We bought and installed our own wireless router. Do you think my neighbors should have free access to what we are paying for?

Posted on Oct 27, 2011 7:47:50 AM PDT
If the absence of 3g is a deal breaker, then don't buy it.

Posted on Oct 27, 2011 7:55:39 AM PDT
T. Cook says:
"I wonder with it being so portable why amazon would not offer some sort of wireless internet or 3g access with the product."

They do offer some sort of wireless internet access with this product, it has Wi-fi built in.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 7:56:25 AM PDT
T. Hoffman, read here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-1?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200302920&qid=1319727335&sr=1-1

They just started a Trade In program for Kindles.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 8:40:17 AM PDT
Nancy says:
As I said in my first post 3G OR other access...I can understand why they would not offer FREE 3G but if they offered an internet access package to go with it that we could buy, I think it would be a plus. Just thinking outloud...

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 8:42:29 AM PDT
It has WiFi capability. You can certainly provide the internet access using a wireless router. It's easy, really. If out and about, you have to find a hotspot.

It sounds like you should get a tablet from a cell phone provider.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 8:44:05 AM PDT
Nancy says:
I guess so, since where I work is out in the boonies..

Posted on Oct 27, 2011 9:06:51 AM PDT
J. Harnden says:
Part of the draw for me and this product was that there is no 3G meaning no monthly fee to use it :)

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2011 9:14:15 AM PDT
S. Kessler says:
No contract with the iPad. It's a month-by-month fee from both AT&T and Verizon.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 17, 2011 7:45:23 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 17, 2011 7:47:52 PM PST
R. TAUBE says:
I can't understand it. They're already providing free 3G, with no monthly fee, on the Sprint Network for the first 3 generations of kindle. Believe me, they make their money on the content you buy, not on the kindle.

Oh and by-the-way, the 3G is indispensible on the beach or other places where there is no wifi. I'd go nuts on vacation if I couldn't buy a new book because I don't have wifi access.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 17, 2011 7:49:29 PM PST
T. Anderson says:
Because there is a massive difference between downloading a couple of text files and some light browsing compared to streaming movies, music, and downloading apps.

Posted on Nov 17, 2011 7:51:28 PM PST
Bixillarla says:
It's a simple concept, it cost way less to download small text files suach as ebooks than it does to download/stream video and music.

The 3G Kindles such as the K1, K2, DX and K3 and now the touch is not capable of streaming video. All they can do is text so Amazon decided to cover the cost of this for thier customers hoping to make thier money back by you purchasing ebooks from them.

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 1:55:34 PM PST
I have gotten several Kindles since the Kindle 2 came out, and am tempted to get a Kindle Fire except for the lack of 3G, which several people have commented on.

People object that Amazon doesn't want Kindle Fire users to stream video over the 3G that Amazon pays for.

I don't see the problem for Amazon, if they do it intelligently.

My iPad has wifi and 3G, and it is smart enough not to do certain things (such as download software) over 3G. Even though the customer pays for the 3G usage, it's just common sense that most customers probably don't want to use up their monthly allotment on a software download. This is an easy limitation to live with.

Why is it so hard for the Kindle Fire to have a similar check when trying to stream video? The answer is that it isn't hard. They just don't want to do it, or haven't gotten around to it. Perhaps Amazon is holding out on this feature as a later addition to their product line somewhere in the middle of the time between the initial Kindle Fire release and the next "product refresh" cycle.

Or perhaps Amazon is losing its enthusiasm for 3G support for buying books in general, and plans to phase it out for all its Kindle devices eventually.

If I had a Kindle Fire with this hypothetical 3G capability, I would use the WiFi when available (as I do with my iPad) and the 3G when no WiFi is available, and only use the 3G to buy books or browse the web. A reasonable question is: does Amazon itself regard the Kindle Fire to be mainly a device best used for purposes *other than* reading e-books?

I would hope the Kindle fire is a good device for *both* reading *and* multimedia playing, rather than primarily a video/audio device that can serve as an e-book reader in a pinch without being particularly satisfactory.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 2:34:51 PM PST
T. Anderson says:
I know you were trying to do the opposite but you pretty much just outlined why Amazon didn't do it.

First off if your iPad's 3G download limit is now 20MB, that means it isn't going to be "smart enough" to not do it until 20MB which is already roughtly 20x more than a single kindle book download would be. Not to mention that apple already doubled that amount because people were complaining about it not being big enough at 10MB.

Secondly as you mentioned it is a 3G connection that you pay for and therefore are more likely to check the usage and not go over whereas if Amazon were the one's footing the bill people would probably wouldn't be that concerned until they got to the point where they actually get cut off then they would just be frustrated/upset.

Really that sums it all up. Even with amazon trying to say that "it isn't a tablet" most people know when to call a spade a spade. At the very least it is more than just an e-reader and people buying it are going to want to use it to do things like stream video so limiting that would just lead to more disatisfaction.

Also I'd imagine to a certain extent you're also right about amazon losing its enthusiasm for 3G support in general. More accurately I'd imagine that Sprint is the one that is less than enthusiastic about it. The market has changed a lot in the short amount of time since the first kindle and where before they probably had the bandwith to allow the kindle's to play with smartphone usage getting higher and higher that bandwith is getting more and more valuable.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2011 2:14:45 PM PST
yes they should. cheapskate

Posted on Dec 2, 2011 2:18:38 PM PST
Frank says:
You can provide your own wireless connectivity. Just buy a hot spot and a service plan.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2011 2:18:48 PM PST
Don't blame Sprint. Sprint is involved with the K1, K2 US and DX US. All other 3G Kindles use AT&T.

Posted on Dec 2, 2011 2:32:01 PM PST
Cyriacus says:
I can connect to my sansung induldge cell using Wifi Tether. You have to root the phone and get a Wifi Tether app that supports Infrastucture (Kindle Fire does not do Ad Hoc). Read the posters comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NArNz4D3p0o

Posted on Dec 2, 2011 2:34:07 PM PST
I went on a long trip overseas after buying my kindle fire only to find that apps can only be downloaded in the US.
What a bummer!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2011 2:35:22 PM PST
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Posted on Dec 2, 2011 2:46:01 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 30, 2011 10:27:10 AM PST
PS56k says:
ok - for the sack of discussion,
Let's say that the Fire was given the 3G hardware for connection to the ATT network.
Here's the ATT link for the iPad data plans...

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/ipad.jsp

so - in reality - if you use the Fire for the intended downloading,
how much data is 2gig ????

AND - more importantly -
would you pay the monthy $25 for the service ??

what if that was more ???

As others have mentioned,
but seems to always be lost on some posters -
the 3G data downloads enjoyed by smartphone users PAYING FOR IT - would be the same for the Kindle Fires -

HOW COULD IT EVER BE FREE ?

Posted on Dec 30, 2011 8:37:42 AM PST
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