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Kindle HDX, no HDMI Port?


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Initial post: Nov 12, 2013 4:07:03 AM PST
My Kindle 7 Fire HD from last year was stolen, and I was looking for a replacement. I read the specs for the Kindle HDX, and was disappointed to find that there was no HDMI port. I see that there is a new "fling" video feature, but I used the Kindle for business travel, and WILL NOT take a PS3 with me from hotel to hotel. The HDMI port was useful to put movies on the TVs in the hotel rooms, rather than be stuck with local channels. What options does the Kindle HDX have for the business traveler? It feels like this use was ignored in the new design.

Thank you.

Posted on Nov 12, 2013 4:22:27 AM PST
Charlie Fox says:
If you read the many threads here on this subject, the reason the port is not included, is that they are moving to wireless or Miracast instead of cables.

I bought the NETGEAR Push2TV Wireless Display HDMI Adapter - Miracast and WiDi (PTV3000) and it is very small, portable for business trips.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2013 8:21:14 AM PST
Okay, I saw this comment in the "more details" section of the HDX just after posting here, but it still is a poor substitute for the simple port. It means more gear and cables to carry, along with a device that many of reviewers state "isn't for everyone," and has more 1 star reviews than any other star rating. Why not just buy a Roku LT for $20 dollars less? It has similar dimensions to the Netgear, better rated, same content, AND I can use a tablet as a tablet, rather than being limited to the show, photo, movie, or whatever appearing through Miracast on both screens.

Bottom line, the HDMI port would take up minimal space in the Kindle hardware, is an established selling point because most other tablets do not have it, and was easier to use than trying to carry and connect yet another device to the TV and sync the systems every time I change hotels. They could have installed the new feature, kept the port, and had a win win. Now they have a once satisfied customer looking at other options (like the Nexus 7, which allows HDMI access through the USB port with a $30 dollar adapter, still expensive but half the price of the NETGEAR).

Finally, Jules, thank you for taking the time to answer my post. I appreciate the reply and the link to the product. Even if I don't go that route, it helps to be educated.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2013 8:57:12 AM PST
Dane Brooks says:
Matthew,
I'm pretty sure the removal of the HDMI port comes down to thinkness. I think it would be hard to find a device as thin as the new Fires with an HDMI port. Of course there were other options for amazon such as a slimport micro USB.

There have been rumors of Amazon working on thier own Roku like box but it's been delayed. If that's the case I think that box was probably intended to launch with the new fires and support miracast. If it had been competatively priced (les than $40) the mira cast option would seem pretty good. I'm hopefully such a box is still comming early next year.

I agree that it is frustrating that the miracast devices on the market at this point all seem to have poor reviews. However the few reviews I've seen for the NETGEAR Push2TV for people who have HDXs said it worked great with thier HDX.

Also keep in mind these miracast devices are about the size of a pack of gum so they really aren't a lot more hassle than to transport than a cord itself ( but the cost does suck).

I also think I should warn you about trying to use a Roku for your purposes. Most hotels require you to sign into thier wi-fi via a browser in some way. There's not browser on a Roku to do this. The only way I have been able to get a Roku on the hotel wi-fi is spoofing the mac address on my laptop sigining in and then connecting the roku. Basically it was a gaint pain in the you know what.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 14, 2013 11:15:23 AM PST
Anything that needs to be plugged in to the wall is not wireless . . .

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 14, 2013 11:17:45 AM PST
How about a 5M 38awg HDMI cable that can pass full 4K

Posted on Dec 2, 2013 8:19:01 AM PST
andy says:
The main reason i bought the kindle hd was hdmi port i was going to buy newer version till i read it doesnt have hdmi.I am not tech savvy and have never heard of miracast can anybody point me toward another tablet with hdmi as i enjoy watching content on the big screen amazon have shot themselves in the foot this time as i think people will change suppliers.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2013 8:51:17 AM PST
Denis Powell says:
Andy, you may well be right about people buying other devices but I love Miracast. I can sit well away from my TV without the trip hazard of a trailing cable. With someone in the house with limited mobility cables are a nightmare, so having Miracast persuaded me to the HDX. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise as I already had a Fire HD.

Nothing made suits everyone.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2013 9:02:14 AM PST
"Nothing made suits everyone."

My new mantra.

Posted on Jan 1, 2014 12:17:28 PM PST
My first tablet. My first mistake I made is watching so many shopping channels I became confused and thought for certain I bought a tablet with an HDMI port! I am more than disappointed!!! I have not opened the Kindle Fire HDX 7" box yet and am so ambivalent as to whether I will need to send it back or not! I do not have cable, do not want to pay for so many different ways to obtain movies and thought this would be perfect! So confused now!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 1, 2014 1:48:56 PM PST
A. Dietz says:
So return it and buy a device that meets your needs.

Posted on Jan 2, 2014 6:08:40 AM PST
Soulrider says:
Personally, I think Amazon made a bad decision when they dropped the micro-HDMI port on the new HDX line. I can fully understand wanting to go with a wireless technology but they should have kept the micro-HDMI port for those that prefer the simplicity of wireless. Wireless technology is great but it's not yet as universal and standardized as something like simply plugging in a cable. I can see dropping the micro-HDMI port from the entry level HD (I guess) if they want to offer a tablet at a lower price point. They are going to have to trim some features to keep the cost down. But on the new HDX line they should have left it in. It certainly wasn't simply due to the size of the device (as some suggest) as there is more than enough room to accommodate the micro-HDMI port and I'm sure the circuitry. After all, they had it and then they dropped it. I also think they should have called the new version of the Kindle fire HD something else. People have come to associate the HD with the specs it had like the micro-HDMI port and the front facing camera. Having removed those features to bring in a tablet at a much lower starting point cost wise is going to throw a lot of people off. It would be better in my opinion to have named it something else given they've removed these features.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 6:22:25 AM PST
"...do not want to pay for so many different ways to obtain movies..."

The Fire doesn't COME WITH movies. You'd still have to PAY for services. What did you think you were getting?

I mean, I have a Fire, in fact we have 3 in the house. But we still PAY for Amazon Prime (for the video streaming) AND NetFlix AND Hulu+.

The Fire is a great little gadget, but it's just a tool. You still have to pay for content for it.

Posted on Jan 2, 2014 6:25:18 AM PST
can you put google chrome on the kindle fire hd...8.9" size? thanks

Posted on Jan 2, 2014 10:46:31 AM PST
When I am traveling abroad, I find other things to do in hotel rooms than watch videos. To each his own, I guess.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 10:57:26 AM PST
Just purchase the older 8.9 HD. It has a mini-HDMI out jack.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 10:58:53 AM PST
I rooted my 8.9 HD and run Chrome as well as any app from the Google Play Store. Really expands the functionality of this great Android tablet ... takes off the Amazon training wheels.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 12:00:36 PM PST
could you explain in a few words what rooted means???

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 12:11:42 PM PST
J. Donahue says:
If you don't know what that means, you don't want to do it.

It involves changing the root operating system of your Fire, which also invalidates the warranty on the device.

If you're not tech savvy, don't do it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 12:13:16 PM PST
Unless you have a LOT of experience with programming and tinkering with the electronic brains of devices, you don't want to go there.

Posted on Jan 2, 2014 3:28:44 PM PST
Mike Smith says:
"Rooting" is absolutely not the same thing as changing the operating system. Rooting just means granting "root level" access. It basically gives you high-level administrative user rights to the device. When you get the Kindle (and nearly every other android device), you have a much more limited level of user access. Rooting basically lets you do some things that you would ordinarily be locked out of with the default access. There are a lot of apps out there (though probably not on the Amazon app store) that actually require root access to run.

I do agree, however, that you should not root a device unless you read up on the risks and implications of doing so. You can potentially do some damage to your device with this access, just like you could with administrator rights on a Windows PC.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 3:49:50 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Which means you also voided the warranty.

Posted on Jan 2, 2014 3:57:15 PM PST
Paxton says:
I understand both sides of this. I am guessing the HDMI port was not included with the HDX line because of width and cost, but it WAS the reason I didn't upgrade. The 15 foot HDMI cable I got works great with my earlier Fire HD version and until other features are added to the HDX, I don't feel I want to trade the cable/port abilities for wireless capabilities which seem to not work in as many situations as the cable HDMI port does. JMO!

Posted on Jan 2, 2014 4:46:58 PM PST
Soulrider says:
Agreed, unless you have decent knowledge of computers, file systems and are comfortable with being able to follow instructions with file names/paths and doing things that can turn your Kindle into nothing more than a door stop, don't bother with "Rooting". As mentioned, "Rooting" basically gives you "root" or system or administrator level access to do things with the Kindle that Amazon has basically 'programmed out" or won't let you do. The Kindle uses a modified version of the Android operating system. They've modified it to force people to use things like the carousel, not be able to install and change wallpaper/backgrounds, run various programs, run widgets, etc, etc, etc. "Rooting" the device means that you remove that level of modification and control that prevents you from doing certain things and that forces you to do other things. It does make the Kindle much more versatile so that you can to certain extent you can make it do more of what you want and not what Amazon wants. All of this comes at a cost in that if you mess up and don't do something right you can potentially screw up the system files that make the Kindle Fire run properly and can make it so it won't do anything. Some mistakes you can recover from, some you may not be able to. And, as said, "Rooting" the Kindle Fire does void your warranty. If you do a search on rooting the kindle, find some of the instructions, read through them and think....WHAT and scratch your head; you probably shouldn't think about rooting your Kindle.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 2, 2014 5:02:30 PM PST
thank you all for the info!!!
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