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Why allow only one borrowed book per month?


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Initial post: Apr 11, 2012 7:05:07 PM PDT
Donna says:
I just got my Kindle a week ago and have already used my one borrowed book a month, unbeknownst to me. I should have read the rules first but I was excited to use it so......
Anyway, would love to have this reconsidered, please.

Posted on Apr 11, 2012 7:07:45 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 11, 2012 7:08:37 PM PDT
The Artist says:
Because it's a FREEEEEEEEEEEEE extra perk that you get in addition to the free 2 day shipping, which is the main reason for Prime and which used to be the only benefit of Prime -- for the same price, too.

Amazon has to pay a licensing fee for every book we borrow from the KOLL.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:07:58 PM PDT
You should email Amazon. This is a customer forum so we can't do anything about this.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:09:01 PM PDT
Yes, you should have read the rules first. They're still there if you wish to read them. Go ahead, give it a shot!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:09:47 PM PDT
Meya says:
Donna, the KOLL for Prime is an added perk to being a Paid Prime member. Prime is first of all a shipping perk, and was around long before Kindles. It gives you free 2 day shipping on many many items sold here on Amazon. It also gives you access to a large number of movies and tv shows that you can stream to your Fire, a computer, or to your television via a compatible device.

Amazon has to pay the publishers for each book that is borrowed.

There are thousands of free books available to "buy." You may want to check out ereaderiq.com, it is one site that lists free books. The KOLL is by itself not something most people consider makes it worth buying Prime.

Posted on Apr 11, 2012 7:10:08 PM PDT
Bixillarla says:
It is simple, every book that you borrow Amazon pays the publisher/author for. If they made it unlimited then they would be losing a lot of money on the deal.

Amazon is in business to sell books not loan you every book that you want to read.

Posted on Apr 11, 2012 7:18:20 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 11, 2012 7:20:31 PM PDT
Donna says:
Wow, everyone jumped at once. OK, I did read the rules now, thank you. I will not be watching streaming anything on my Kindle Touch. I have a Blu Ray to watch unlimited streaming movies on Netflix for $8 a month so don't need it. Especially on a black and white Kindle as I have. Why watch movies on a small device anyway, I don't get that for sure. I like free shipping but I have been a very long Amazon member and i can get my stuff shipped free anyway if I use the 5 day option and it comes in two days anyway. So I guess the borrowing thing was a big deal to me, the only big deal Prime offers me. So after my one month free trial is over I think I have just talked myself out of extending it.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:22:05 PM PDT
Donna says:
If they are selling reading devices then providing good inexpensive options for the reader is pretty important. Do I care if they have to pay the author? Nope.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:26:53 PM PDT
Donna, you may want to check out your local public library, many have ebooks. Here is the help page for how to do that http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_200127470_ksupport_library?nodeId=200747550

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:29:40 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
Probably a good call; I suspect most people looking at Prime just for the books would do better taking the $79 per year and buying ebooks.

I'm not really interested in the free shipping. Every couple of months I look to see how Amazon Prime streaming compares to what I've got in my Netflix streaming queue. I'll also look at what's in the KOLL, but I have so many books waiting to be read that the lending library isn't that big of a deal for me; obviously, others might differ.

If Prime's streaming ever becomes more attractive to me than Netflix, I'll cancel Netflix and use Prime.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:33:53 PM PDT
The Artist says:
FREE is not a good business model.

Amazon is not a charity.

Just got off the boat from Entitlement Island, I see.

Posted on Apr 11, 2012 7:33:55 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
As mentioned, Amazon pays the publisher the wholesale cost of every "free" book you get through Prime. In order to provide more free books to a Prime customer each month, Amazon would either have to increase the Prime annual fee or take a greater loss than they already do on Prime (per estimates)

Posted on Apr 11, 2012 7:35:08 PM PDT
T. Moody says:
You can't stream on the e ink kindles, you would need the fire. You can check to see if your blue ray is compatible with amazon. They have a list of all the compatible devices. Streaming via amazon is cheaper than netflix with the prime membership. Netflix is $8 per month and if you have amazon prime ($79 per year), it breaks down to $6.5833 per month...so with prime you get free 2 day shipping, streaming and the KOLL.

That's why Prime works for me...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:38:29 PM PDT
Donna says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:40:39 PM PDT
Zanzibar says:
Why not allow none per month? Whiners who go gimme, gimme, gimme, may make Amazon think it's not worth the bother of the complaints from people that want more for free.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:41:55 PM PDT
Donna says:
Yeah, I don't think anything is better than Netflix streaming yet. I've tried Hulu Plus, Vudu and all of them. Amazon does not have the lineup Netflix does and neither do the others, although Hulu Plus offers next day viewing of yesterday's TV shows. But I have cable so don't need that. There are many free ebooks to get from Amazon, some indie writers but some are quite good I have found. If they edited their work it is even better.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:42:31 PM PDT
T. Moody says:
Probably because some people would still not be happy and then ask for 6 per month...where would it end?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:42:54 PM PDT
Donna says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:42:58 PM PDT
~nospin says:
There are hundreds of books available for free daily - try that route or public libraries.

I would like to see Amazon stay around and giving away books is not a recipe for longevity.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:43:30 PM PDT
Donna says:
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Posted on Apr 11, 2012 7:43:30 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
Also, the publishing industry as a whole plus the Authors Guild are opposed to the KOLL.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:45:00 PM PDT
Cassie Anne says:
You can purchase all the books you want. And there are scores if not hundreds of freebies every day. Many of these freebies will end up in the KOLL. And your public library w ill likely let you borrow more than 4 ebooks per month.

But whining that a perk to a shipping program isn't enough for you is just silly.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:45:30 PM PDT
Donna says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:47:37 PM PDT
When Amazon began Prime years ago, it was $79 per year for 2-day shipping on thousands of items. Now it's millions of items, and it's still $79 per year. Not too long ago, they added unlimited streaming of their movies and TV shows. Guess what? The price stayed at $79 per year. Recently, they added yet another perk - Kindle owners can borrow one book per month. Want to know something pretty spiffy? They kept the price at $79 per year, despite the fact that they were already losing money on Prime memberships.

You do realize that Amazon has to pay for each and every book they lend out, right? And that Amazon is not, in fact, a library? They're a business.

If you want more books, then buy them. Or try an actual library instead of expecting a business to give you more than it already does.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2012 7:48:04 PM PDT
Just because you're not convinced they're not losing money does not mean they aren't.
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