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Posted on Jun 13, 2012 1:23:37 PM PDT
Suncoast says:
An interesting article on Amazon's slipping market share in the US and disputes with publishers re promotion fees - - http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/04/12/could-amazons-greed-be-its-undoing/

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 2:10:56 PM PDT
Loz says:
Not everyone was brought up with manners, and this shows in the posts they make. But I really don't think there is a way to disagree politely 100% of the time. It would make the world seem like the Stepford Wives have taken over.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 3:28:39 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 13, 2012 3:29:38 PM PDT
Discus49 says:
'Twas I. And I can only believe that Amazon are now monitoring my every post as I believe it was well within the TOS. I can't remember exactly how it was phrased but it involved a *gentle* rebuke to Loz for not voting. If anyone else thought it was offensive then I apologise, but my conscience is clear.

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 3:34:24 PM PDT
Wow, look at all the work you've done on the thread! Impressive!
How are we all doing? Chilly? Lovely day up in Qld today

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 3:37:43 PM PDT
I love this post Alina. I'm going to share it with the RAOK group if I may?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 3:40:06 PM PDT
JJulieJ says:
Also the search doesn't always give results. It's very flaky.

I had accidentally truncated a clipping of a post I needed for one of the FAQs. I searched our thread using phrases from the bit I had clipped and it took 3-4 attempts to find that post.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 3:43:50 PM PDT
JJulieJ says:
Watch it, Discus49, you're in their sights LOL.

That's the trouble with a US-based forum. What would merely mean a raised eyebrow or a abashed giggle here in Australia could bee seen as offensive in the US.

Keep a list of words you think are being censored and try to avoid using them. ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 3:45:20 PM PDT
Loz says:
I didn't see your post, I came on a minute after it was deleted. But once you get deleted I think they follow you for a bit. Happened to me a few weeks ago.

I do vote, but only cause I have to. Sometimes I just get my name checked off and hand in a blank sheet. I don't like politics and I don't understand most of it so there is no point in me making a false vote. It doesn't interest me in the slightest and I have no desire to learn about it, so why waste my time.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 4:27:23 PM PDT
Suncoast says:
Hi Little Miss Sunshine - Welcome to part 2 of the friendly forum which thanks to JJulieJ has as much helpful info in the first pages as the Amazon help facilities.

Sounds like I am going to have some competition as in the last forum they called me Sunshine when they wanted to have a dig at me. Yes it is a lovely day on the Sunshine Coast today (about time after so many gloomy days). Does your nickname tell me that you live on the Sunshine Coast or just in the Sunshine State?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 4:28:48 PM PDT
Suncoast says:
JJulieJ - I did an all forums search for some "bad" words and was surprised how many were not deleted by Amazon

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 4:38:29 PM PDT
It's not just the inability to read a Fire in sunlight that would bother me. I switched to a Kindle Touch last year after being an avid iBooks and Kindle reader on my iPad. I've never been tempted back to the iPad. E-ink is much nicer on my eyes generally. The only time I'd be tempted to use the iPad again is if I wasn't able to get decent light onto my Kindle, and so far that's been never. I have a Kindle light for emergencies.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 4:47:05 PM PDT
I'm actually in Toowoomba - so really my name should be Windy, but I'm not sure I want to be known as Farty..
I had a few names in the last thread, I can't remember most of them. The peeps in the RAOK thread usually call me Sunshiney Becks :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 5:15:30 PM PDT
Loz, even if voting informal it's always better to put some kind of mark on your voting paper. Firstly, because it stops any voting official using it as a second one of their own (though we hope they all have enough integrity not to do that), and secondly, because your intentions are clearer. There's a whole set of policies for dealing with different types of informal votes, and the clearer your intentions are, the easier it is for the counters to know which policy to apply. Just a quick "I don't know" would do it.

As far as Discus' post being deleted, I wonder if some of that is because voting isn't compulsory in the States, so they'd be seeing it from a different perspective?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 5:21:41 PM PDT
Loz says:
But what if my intentions are to not cast a vote at all? Can't be much clearer than a blank sheet. It's not like my name is on the sheet anyway. Every time I've had to vote, it's a number the box type situation. As far as I knew, you weren't allowed to write any text on the sheets.

I don't know the difference between formal and informal votes anyway, so the whole thing is pointless to me.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 5:24:42 PM PDT
Discus49 says:
"What would merely mean a raised eyebrow or an abashed giggle here in Australia could be seen as offensive in the US."

I know what you mean. I rafted with some Americans in India. Same age group and education, and after 3 or 4 days I realised that my Brit/Aussie humour was upsetting them. I had to bite my tongue for six weeks. The whole trip would have been so much more enjoyable with other Aussies.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 5:42:57 PM PDT
Judsuw says:
Loz, my hubby said he felt much better after writing 'wouldn't vote for any of the b*****d's' across a ballot paper one time. Now he votes for the lesser of 'two evils'. Like you he wouldn't vote if not for the fine.

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 5:49:17 PM PDT
Discus49 says:
I once wrote, "A pox on all your houses" on a local election ballot paper as none of the candidates were even literate.

(Now I'm wondering if "pox" will get me deleted again?)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 5:56:35 PM PDT
Loz says:
Change it to plague and pretend you are quoting Shakespeare. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 6:23:09 PM PDT
Discus49 says:
Quoting Shakespeare is probably grounds for deletion in US !

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 6:24:44 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 13, 2012 6:26:22 PM PDT
Formal simply means it's valid. Informal = invalid.

No, you're not supposed to write text on the sheets **if you want your vote to count**. But if you don't want it to count, you can write whatever you please :-)

A vote is informal in any of the following cases:
* The ballot paper is not marked at all.
* The ballot paper does not have the official mark and has not been initialled by the polling official and the ballot paper is not authentic in the opinion of The Divisional Returning Officer (DRO).
* The ballot paper has writing on it which identifies the voter.
* In the case of an absent vote the ballot paper is not contained in the declaration envelope.
* The voter has not marked a vote correctly for it to be considered acceptable.

But leaving the form blank is the least desirable of those *because* it potentially gives someone else a chance to use your paper to cast a second vote. It's also the one that least clearly conveys your intentions, and in the case of any question as to validity, the primary criterion is what your intentions appeared to be.

Scrutineers could think that you may have meant to write something, got distracted, and thought you had. Or that you may have been voting with someone else, and they could have picked up the wrong (as in, the still blank) ballot paper and put it in the box without realising it (and they can't be removed from the box once they're in there).

Even if you put a zero in every box it's clearer than a blank paper :-)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 7:14:34 PM PDT
Suncoast says:
Discus49 - my wife's favourite description of people (males) she dislikes is "little prick". I have searched all forums and there are 289 instances, some expressing that feeling in the way my wife does.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 7:20:43 PM PDT
Tasstiger says:
Re the Phryne Fisher books if anyone is going on holiday to US most of the series are now priced at either at either $2.99 or $4.99-big introductory offer as this is the ? first release in US. Don't know how long this offer will last.

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 7:37:38 PM PDT
Tui Allen says:
I'm not the slightest bit interested in politics, and politicians bore me to tears, but I always vote because if you don't vote, you can't complain if ever you lose the right to vote. And if you don't vote, you can't complain about anything the government does. Since I do a fair old bit of protesting, mainly on environmental issues, I feel it is my moral responsibility to vote. If I don't vote, I'd be like those people who whinge about the way their tennis club is being run but who wouldn't lift a finger to help out. I spend as little time as possible listening to the campaigning because they mostly go on an on about things that don't interest me like money and economics. They assume we all want economic growth and expansion. I'd rather see populations and economies in controlled decline.

We once had a real ridgy-didge honest-to-goodness political party here in NZ whose election promises included things like the "Great Leap Backwards" and "abortion on demand until the foetus is aged 18 years." If you think carefully about that last one you can see they were actually anti-abortion in their views. I don't get het up over abortion issues one way or the other but I voted for that party because of the Great Leap Backwards, which I loved.
The best thing for this planet in my view is if it could leap back to the era before mankind came down from the trees. Not practical for any political party to arrange such an outcome, but I do think we'd be better off with fewer people on this planet.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 8:30:42 PM PDT
JJulieJ says:
Thanks for the feedback, John. Most of us love our e-ink Kindles for reading. If the Fire had full functionality in Australia it might be uaseful a cheapish tablet for things like magazines, cookbooks or other reference books but personally I wouldn't bother buying one.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 8:31:35 PM PDT
JJulieJ says:
Sunshiney Becks is nice, you should change your forum name to that ;-)
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