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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012 8:14:01 AM PDT
Dragi Raos says:
Bleh! You had me all excited.... This is as ancient as Pyramids!

:o)

Hey, wasn't this the update that introduced collections? You don't use collections!?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012 8:20:19 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
no, I had collections before that - unfortunately I don't remember what I was on beofre = maybe plain old 2.5?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012 8:26:35 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 25, 2012 8:27:48 AM PDT
Dragi Raos says:
Yes, probably. Update page does not include detailed change log.

Sigh, no upgrades for me....

Posted on Jul 3, 2012 2:01:51 PM PDT
rachelQB says:
See the Wall Street Journal article "Your Ebook is reading You" of June 29, 2012. Amazon and other companies that issue these devices want to know what you are doing with them, how often you turn them on, what you are reading, what you purchase when you finish, how fast you read, what you underline, etc. Your private reading habits are no longer private, but are valuable market information. Taking that button off the menu is a money-maker--no matter how "clunky" it is for your reading experience.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 2:11:59 PM PDT
Any tracking that may be going on was going on long before this new change to the K4. While the change makes the process a tad longer, it certainly doesn't make it "difficult" for most users. Even someone who is technically challenged can learn the process.

I'm not going to be paranoid about anyone knowing what I am reading, or when I read. Who cares? How is the fact that I am reading "Wives and Daughters" going to help anyone with marketing?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 2:16:06 PM PDT
rachelQB says:
Read the article. It is already having an effect on publishing that I find tremendously damaging. I'm curious at how many people seem to have no deep concerns for their own private lives--in terms of personal, financial, social, and intellectual activity. Really foolish.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 2:43:17 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 2:47:50 PM PDT
Do you have a cell phone? Buy stuff online? Use grocery store benefit cards? Use credit cards? Pay bills online? Order stuff on your cell phone? Hand over your insurance card to any doctors office staff who asks? Use cable or satellite tv? Drive on the roads in any city or township? Write checks to businesses?

Use Facebook? Email? Public computers? Use Google? Bing? Yahoo? Hand your credit card to the guy in Red Lobster? Make a reservation online/phone?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 2:50:24 PM PDT
Dragi Raos says:
Here, have some tin foil.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 2:51:13 PM PDT
Dragi Raos says:
"It is already having an effect on publishing that I find tremendously damaging."

What, publishers are publishing what people want to read? Now, *that* is a surprise!

Posted on Jul 9, 2012 9:09:46 AM PDT
Thank you for your responses, everyone!

Posted on Aug 15, 2012 12:09:42 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 15, 2012 12:17:57 AM PDT
Chuan Li says:
Consider the often use case to turn the wireless on/off:
1. You see a nice article and send it to Kindle inside the browser.
2. You punch through the buttons to turn on the wireless.
3. Seeing the neat message 'item downloaded', you turn off the wireless.

How many punches it took before and takes now until the article arrives your Kindle?
How many times a day you want to send an article to Kindle?

If you are one of who uses the wireless once a week, and never wonders how stupid the little plane icon in your Kindle is (when most time user read Kindle in bed or subway?), you would probably not be bothered by the new 'plane mode' feature. You would probably also not question whether any feature hardware producer pushes to user makes sense for you too.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 12:42:46 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
sorry, but it's a cute little plane

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 1:32:47 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 15, 2012 1:33:03 AM PDT
Dragi Raos says:
"never wonders how stupid the little plane icon in your Kindle is [...] You would probably also not question whether any feature hardware producer pushes to user makes sense for you too."

Yeah, I spend some heavy thinking time pondering on these existential questions, and decided that ... I don't care. :o)

When you are browsing the web, sending articles to your Kindle, do you for some reason feel a particular urge to download each one the very same moment is was sent? What's wrong with downloading all articles you sent when you are actually about to read them?

Posted on Aug 15, 2012 2:29:12 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 15, 2012 2:41:02 AM PDT
Chuan Li says:
Hi, Dragi
I guess that is a user habit. But your suggestion can definitely help.
The new feature harms some user case, I hope they would think about how to fix it.
Hi CBRetriever,
it is cute and it could take weeks work of artist group to design reviewed by product design, management, etc.
but for user like me, it makes zero sense to see the airplane icon when just using kindle in bed or subway. What the hell should it mean? When no radio signal, show no bar and nothing, simple.
Cheers

Posted on Aug 15, 2012 2:31:51 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
there wasn't an old wireless icon - it was bars or nothing - now it's bars or an airplane

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 2:49:24 AM PDT
Dragi Raos says:
Chuan Li, they did what was the simplest thing for a mass-use device: made it exactly like on i-devices :o)

I would have left it on first level of menus, both on home page and in a book, but that airplane makes it much easier to negotiate with flight attendants, who are familiar with smartphone "airplane mode".

Posted on Aug 15, 2012 4:12:03 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 15, 2012 4:12:29 AM PDT
Chuan Li says:
Amazon should re-add a shortcut to the first level of menus by the next firmware update, and don't listen to those people who will say 'but some will inevitably turn it on in airplane with shaking finger!', they have got the cute icon to negotiate with flight attendants. Please give me back the shortcut. Thank you. : )

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 4:25:20 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
why don't you tell amazon, then instead of telling fellow kindle users?

we can't fix it, only amazon can and it's seldom that an amazon representative (we're volunteers) responds here

Posted on Aug 15, 2012 6:46:27 AM PDT
Chuan Li says:
Sorry guys, I thought someone hired by Amazon was monitoring the Forum and forwarding the requests.
I just wrote to this Kindle feedback mail address to complain to them about this issue.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 6:47:37 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
that's totally the best way to handle it - the more complaints they have, the more likely they are to change it in the next update (don't hold your breath waiting as it may be a month or two)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 8:45:53 AM PDT
Bridget Ruth says:
Call it airplane mode if they wish.

The annoying part is that I can no longer turn wireless on/off while inside a book. I have to go back to the homepage.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 8:48:50 AM PDT
Bridget Ruth says:
I'm glad they know what I'm reading.

I have excellent taste and they should really give people reading lists based on my own impeccable choices.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 9:19:26 AM PDT
I hope the publishers are getting the message that I won't buy overpriced eBooks. I hope they notice that I'm reading self published books or books published by smaller publishing companies that are not part of the Agency Model.

Posted on Aug 15, 2012 10:54:33 AM PDT
Chuan Li says:
Some Dalvi S. answered my mail:

"I've taken your concern as a feedback. To ensure the utmost attention, I've also passed your message along with your comments to our developers. Our Kindle Team will carefully review your comments.. In the near future, if any changes are made related to this issue we'll post the information on our website. "

I hope the message does reach the Kindle developer team like he said ...

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 11:14:54 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 15, 2012 11:15:34 AM PDT
Bridget Ruth says:
If enough people complain, it probably will. Hiding it under all the menus like that was, well, weird. I mean, I know they say it is to "streamline" the menus by "putting all the wireless options in one place", but really it just makes it a tad frustrating to change a force of habit (I always download books while reading a book and like to turn wireless on/off without having to go back to the home screen).

Edit to clarify: "It probably will" = it will get sent to the developer team, not it will get changed.
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