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Posted on Nov 20, 2011 7:34:30 AM PST
esorlitse says:
I just checked the overdrive site and did an advanced search for the kindle format and Penguin Publishing Group as publisher and it comes back blank. No authors/books whatsoever. I really hope that this isn't a permanent licensing issue. Penguin is a large publisher and that would keep a lot of popular authors out of reach from library lending to kindle users.

I ended up reading New York to Dallas on my computer with Adobe digital because well, I was thisclose to getting the whole series (to this point) read. I really hated reading on my computer. Ugh. Fingers crossed this gets fixed.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 7:51:54 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
Interesting thread because I was looking at my wish list on Overdrive and noticed some of the books were not available on Kindle. Could have sworn they were Kindle versions when I added them to my wish list a week ago. Also, the total number of Kindle books dropped from about 1800 to 1500.
I thought it was just me!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 7:57:15 AM PST
esorlitse says:
Which forum and thread are you speaking of? I'd be interested in reading the posts there.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:06:13 AM PST
Beth says:
Just checked. I think my library has gone from 2700 to 2200 books.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:18:08 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2011 8:21:37 AM PST
The number of Kindle editions available on Overdrive in my area (Chicago suburbs) has dropped from about 4200 down to 3200.

I've been Googling trying to figure out what's happening and I see that the Big 6 are up in arms about the Kindle Lending Library (the one where you have to belong to Amazon Prime). I wonder if this is a form of retaliation?

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:20:27 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2011 8:21:58 AM PST
CLS10 says:
I have a lot of the In Death books on my two libraries wish lists. I had them in kindle format. Due to this discussion, I just looked at them again and yes, they have been changed to ePub version. While it isn't too bad for me since I'm fine with reading them on the overdrive app for my iPad, it sucks because I do prefer reading on my kindle (especially on the train). Also. The number of kindle books at the NYPL has dropped by about 1000.

I wonder what's going on? Perhaps Penguin is finding that kindle borrowers affect their bottom line more so than ePub borrowers?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 8:20:48 AM PST
I was afraid someone would ask me that and I didn't want to be spreading rumors, but it looks like everyone here has verified. It's on kindleboards.com under Let's talk Kindle:

http://www.kindleboards.com/index.php/topic,92091.0.html

I think that link will work. If not, look for a Number of Library books drops significantly or something like that.

Maria

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:21:04 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2011 8:22:03 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
A couple of the ones I had on my wishlist that changed are published by Penguin.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 8:22:18 AM PST
Kellie80 says:
Add me to the list. I have several library books on my Kindle now that suddenly aren't available in Kindle format (good thing I had already checked them out). And, the ones I have on reserve have switched from Kindle version to ePub. I contacted my library & Overdrive via email, but I haven't heard anything back yet. I'll post if I get any information from them.

I wondered if it had to do with switching certain titles to be ready for the new Kindle format for the Fire; however, the publisher theory makes more sense. I'd use Calibre, but DRM is a barrier for conversion into Kindle format (at least without doing something a shade illegal).

Hope they get it figured it out soon. I have LOVED getting library books on the Kindle.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:27:37 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
Do we need to start a letter writing campaign to Penguin?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 8:51:21 AM PST
Considering the medium involved, I assume you mean a metaphorical letter writing campaign? Or do you think they'd respond better to old-fashioned paper and ink? Maybe.

The interesting thing to me is that although there are numerous articles and blogs about the (supposed) legal issue with the KLL, there has been nothing outside of Kindle forums about what's suddenly happened with regular library ebooks. Anyone have a contact with a tech writer somewhere?

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:55:50 AM PST
esorlitse says:
I don't understand Penguin allowing library lending to Kindle at first and then all of a sudden pulling it. The real kicker is I have bought most of the In Death series but with xmas coming was thrilled I could read them through the library and put off purchasing them until after the New Year. That's why i "suffered" through reading New York to Dallas on my computer. The next one doesn't come out until February so hopefully this issue will be fixed by then.

That doesn't help with other authors I was reading and I don't really feel like bothering with the epub versions of those. Ah well, hopefully my librarian friend will find out something about this soon. I know he says his library wasn't informed of any changes so like I said maybe it's something Overdrive and Penguin are working on.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 8:56:46 AM PST
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Posted on Nov 20, 2011 9:00:58 AM PST
esorlitse says:
Just took a peek at the Kindle Lending Library info and pulled up some authors/books. Those I pulled up published by Penguin aren't available through the KLL either. Seems like a big issue between Penguin and Amazon possible bleeding over to Overdrive.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 9:06:49 AM PST
A few publishers have been pretty skeptical about library lending anyway. It could be that it was fine for a few epub checkouts, but maybe they saw a large drop in sales after Kindle went live and rethought it? (Keep in mind I'm a writer. I speculate MADLY. I have NO inside information; I am merely wondering aloud, so to speak.)

I've heard other rumors that some publishers were thinking of changing the way they licensed books as in not allowing libraries that allowed out-of-state users to sign up and so on. So even if it is an Amazon looking thing at this point, maybe they're just not happy overall and this was a first step. Dunno. It is annoying.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 9:10:24 AM PST
CLS10 says:
None of the big 6 publishers are involved with the kinde lending library, it's not just penguin in that case.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 9:22:31 AM PST
A. says:
I sent a news tip about this to Ars Technica, which covered the 'no 3G web browsing on Kindle Touch 3G' story that broke because of this forum. Once one major site like that covers a new story, it often spreads to other sites.

Many tech news sites have ways for people to contact them and submit tips, if you look around on your favorite sites. Personal connections to a writer somewhere would be even better if someone has them, but anyone can help spread the word even without that. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 9:25:47 AM PST
CLS10 says:
"It could be that it was fine for a few epub checkouts, but maybe they saw a large drop in sales after Kindle went live and rethought it?"

I speculated the same above. I wouldn't be surprised; when kindle started their own lend me feature like BN, many on the BN boards noted that they had more books that were lending enabled (and some by big publishers) before kindle started doing it.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 9:31:44 AM PST
eaglssong says:
I didn't look for specific publishers, but I was just able to download a James Patterson book from my library. There were plenty of kindle books both available, and to place a hold. I've had no problems at all.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 9:47:25 AM PST
CLS10 says:
"I didn't look for specific publishers, but I was just able to download a James Patterson book from my library. "

Well, considering that JP book's are published by Hachette, there shouldn't be any problems. Everyone here is specifically talking about books published by Penguin.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 12:30:12 PM PST
CLS10 says:
bump

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 12:30:53 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2011 12:36:34 PM PST
Jeannie says:
Read this...... http://ilmk.wordpress.com/

Its about Penguin Publishing pulling out of Overdrive. Guess Amazon Library lending did not last very long with this......unless they add support to epub format.

Jeannie

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 12:35:36 PM PST
I live in New Orleans, was reading through the Anita blake series and now they are gone for kindle, still available in other e-formats, and I noticed the total books for kindle collection dropped by about roughly over 400 books.

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 12:37:41 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2011 12:39:11 PM PST
Jeannie says:
Read the article I just posted http://ilmk.wordpress.com/ Penguin has possibly pulled out of offering the lending of ebooks from libraries.

I guess checking out ebooks from the Kindle will now decline.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 12:39:21 PM PST
CLS10 says:
"Penguin has possibly pulled out of offering the lending of ebooks from libraries. "

Or rather, Penguin has possible pulled out of lending KINDLE format books from libraries, since their epub counterparts and still available without issue.
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