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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 2:35:11 AM PST
Not quite true. Apparently Harper Collins is the only one thus far to have renegotiated their contract with Amazon. Hachette and S & S titles still say "This price was set by the publisher".

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 2:51:54 AM PST
I think peoples' hopes may have been raised by something Jeff Bezos said when the settlement was first announced. He said something to the affect of "we look forward to being able to lower prices" -- a somewhat ambiguous statement, possibly tongue in cheek ;)

I hadn't yet joined the Kindle world when the 9.99 prices were around, and I'm sure you remember the ads correctly, but I can't even begin to count the number of articles I've read, from blogs to mainstream news sources, that say that Amazon's ebooks were generally 9.99 or less before agency pricing. It's a myth, but it's certainly widespread.

In any case I think Erich is right; if ebooks continue to sell well, there's not too much incentive to lower prices. Which I guess is both bad and good for me -- bad because I'd love lower prices, but good because publishers have the incentive to pull out all their older titles and digitize them.

On the whole, over the past couple of years, I haven't found titles with prices set by Amazon to be noticeably lower than those with prices set by publishers. I have one Kindle book on preorder for Nov 13 where the Kindle price is higher than the paperback (there is no hardcover) --
Archie Meets Nero Wolfe: A Prequel to Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe Mysteries (The Nero Wolfe Mysteries)
The "list price" is 14.99 for both Kindle and print versions. It's not an agency title and Amazon has discounted the paperback to 8.68 and the Kindle version to 9.99.

I've also submitted several Amazon-priced titles for price matching when I've found lower prices on B&N, and most of them have not been matched.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 4:30:53 AM PST
Dragi Raos says:
Some price statistics:

http://ilmk.wordpress.com/category/analysis/

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 5:17:03 AM PST
Sarida says:
Mr. Obrien,

Most of us do not buy tablets for reading. We buy eink Kindles for reading. The tablets are for larger consumption: movies, email, FaceTime/Skype/Tango, net surfing, radio, television, weather, sports, and games.

I have an iPad, but I use my Kindle Keyboard to travel to work with me daily so I can read on my lunch break.

So if you want to cancel your order, that is up to you, of course, but to buy the more expensive device if you are going to be using it for reading does not seem cost effective, IMHO.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 5:31:44 AM PST
J. Gatie says:
Do you actually think there is a correlation between the release of the Fire HD and the prices set by the *publishers* who tried to collude with Apple to run Amazon out of business? Uhhhh . . . ok. *rolleyes*

Posted on Nov 7, 2012 6:39:25 AM PST
Perry says:
Amazon sent the following statement in an email to those of us that here that are Kindle customers in Mid-Oct. I've trimmed the original email down to the couple sentences that pertain to this thread. The last line clearly reiterates their intention to lower prices with the new agreements (Amazon already said this same statement when the settlement was announced back in April).

"Hachette, Harper Collins, and Simon & Schuster have settled an antitrust lawsuit about e-book prices. Under the proposed settlements, the publishers will provide funds for a credit that will be applied directly to your Amazon.com account. In addition to the account credit, the settlements impose limitations on the publishers' ability to set e-book prices. We think these settlements are a big win for customers and look forward to lowering prices on more Kindle books in the future."

As mentioned by ppcsue at the top of this page, only HarperCollins has renegotiated their Amazon contract which dropped prices on thousands of their titles by 20% or more. The Price Drop thread here was quite active for several days when the new prices went into effect. I'm not sure why Hachette and Simon & Schuster are taking so long to set up their new contracts with Amazon, I thought it was supposed to be within 30 days, but perhaps I misread that in the settlement, but I look forward to seeing similar price drops when their agreements are announced.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 7:00:51 AM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
There is no guarantee books will be cheaper. All the law suit is doing is keeping the publishers from setting the prices. It is not stopping them from raising the prices they charge Amazon for the books. That could be what is taking so long in contract talks.

Posted on Nov 7, 2012 7:05:54 AM PST
I've had price drops on a large number of books on my wish list. And I've noticed that mysteries, the genre hardest hit by agency pricing, are becoming less expensive as well.

Posted on Nov 7, 2012 7:31:29 AM PST
Thanks for the positive remarks.

I've gone back and looked closer at Amazon's pricing. Let me preface this by saying that I don't buy a lot of books that are just off the presses. I'm more than content to read older science fiction, mysteries and especially history.

From what I can see it's how Amazon presents books for you to choose from. Most of the things that I initially see when I search for a new book, are the newest releases. ie. The price point being that compared to hard cover versions.

Since the vast majority of what I read is already available in paperback, these prices were higher.

Just learned the lesson of looking harder for the types of things that I want.

Again. For those of you who had positive things to add to the discussion, thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 8:25:35 AM PST
Dragi Raos says:
Our posts *always* add to discussion :o)

You are welcome.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 8:37:25 AM PST
King Al says:
That could be deemed as retaliatory pricing, which I believe is prohibited by the terms of the settlement.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 8:48:31 AM PST
Dog Lover says:
Only if the price charged to Amazon differs (is higher) from the price charged to other agents/distributors, right?

DL

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 11:08:12 AM PST
Pink Kitty says:
ty for the answer...I wasn't planning on making a gazzillion copies, but I'll keep that part in mind ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012 11:14:51 AM PST
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Jazzy_Jeff says:
DRM really doesn't make any sense to stop pirating. New versions of DRM are usually hacked within 24 hours of release and is easily removed. It only hurts law abiding people. The music industry found this out. Just think if there was no DRM then there would be a lot more competition because it wouldn't matter where you bought your books. Some day...
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