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Kindle Paperwhite - international availability

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Posted on Sep 9, 2012 10:28:19 AM PDT
They really don't care about us...

Sounds familiar ;-)

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 10:31:48 AM PDT
No offense Doroftei, I'm european myself, but threatening to boycot a product is not gonna do any good. Amazon deals with a worldwide market and in most European countries they are NOT the #1 in the ereader/ebooks field anyway. A boycot is not going to hurt them (much) and it only makes us look like a bunch of five year olds throwing a 'BUT I WANT IT NOW' tantrum.
And this is not just Amazon, a lot of the larger companies simply can't do a worldwide release on the same day. Both because of availability, but also the different sets of laws and regulations they have to abide by. Considering those factors, of course they will release their products first in the country or regions where they have their largest customer base.
I'm just going to stick it out, wait and see. Going by my experience from the past, it won't be all that long before the Kindle will be available internationally.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 11:55:24 PM PDT
You just have to look at Apple, the first launch is for the US and the big countries in Europe, the second launch (1 month after +-) is for the rest of us. Amazon is doing this with the Fire, but people want the Kindle!

Posted on Sep 10, 2012 12:37:17 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 10, 2012 12:37:25 AM PDT
From the Paperwhite 3G product page: "3G wireless works globally - download books anytime, anywhere". That sounds the same as the Touch, which even when it was only sold in the U.S. worked just fine anywhere. The only restriction was that it always accessed the U.S. Kindle bookstore.

Posted on Sep 10, 2012 9:50:58 AM PDT
As an Applefan with Kindleapps on MacBook,iPad and iPhone I was never tempted to buy a Kindle until I saw the Paperwhite..Whaw...not

ingeborg,the Netherlands

Posted on Sep 10, 2012 10:21:07 AM PDT
TyraD says:
You can add me to the disgruntled list. I have a US bought 2nd gen Kindle on the blink - would love to buy the paperwhite (I'm not interested in their tablets at all). At least give us an international release date so I don't go out and buy a replacement for my Kindle from a rival company! I'm also not interested in buying out-dated and old tech, which is what they are currently offering us right now, and then be expected to buy the paperwhite when they deem it appropriate for us non-US to have access to it. No-sireebob I ain't doing it. :)

(And to those that will probably reply saying you're not expected to buy it or you don't have to buy it if you don't want to, well that's not the point - the point is I do WANT... very much and "wanting" is a big part of driving consumerism and making money. So If amazon want my money, and many other peoples money as this thread suggests, then they need to make changes and actually become a global company instead of just pretending to be!)

In other words #shutupandtakemymoney ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2012 11:34:46 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
heh - I totally understand

however, the Kindle Touch was released internationally less than 5 months after the US (I know I got mine April 21st and they were shipped on November 10th, but I was in a Kindle Store region and we got it later than the rest of the world - maybe a month later?)

Posted on Sep 10, 2012 11:38:55 AM PDT
Vegan says:
I am travelling to India in December and wanted to gift a Paperwhite to a friend there. Will he be able to use it there? Can he purchase and download books there? Can I gift books to him? I am confused.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2012 11:53:32 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
yes, he'll be OK with using it there

Posted on Sep 10, 2012 2:09:47 PM PDT
Amazon is far away from Apple on this point...

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2012 11:41:25 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 11, 2012 8:06:15 PM PDT
That would not bother me if only we could still buy the older model (Kindle Touch). Unfortunately, that option is unavailable as well. I was going to buy 10 of them, and now have to explore gray market alternatives [sigh].

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 1:45:24 AM PDT
The USA has Stephen King, Europe has all the others.

Wrong strategy Mister Bezos...

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 1:52:03 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
what does Stephen King have to do with anything?

and there's almost always been at least a slight delay in availability of new kindles to other countries - just relax and let the US be the guinea pigs - that way when the product is released internationally, most of the bugs will hopefully have been found and released

btw, I'm not in the US either

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 8:54:46 AM PDT
Enos says:
amazon is as far away from apple as they can be, otherwise the iPaperwhite would sell for "only" 300-400$
amazon is not really making money with the selling of the Kindle itself, they make money with the content you buy for it.

thank god they don't have the same strategy as apple

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 8:56:37 AM PDT
Enos says:
you should try to contact the support with such questions,
however from what I've read in the internet about older Kindle devices,
it should work (only problem could be the 3G part though)
--> contact support^^

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 10:09:24 AM PDT
No excuse. Make enough to go around or block the rest of the world from seeing what you have to sell but won't sell. It's like some twit in grade school: look what I've got. No, you can't have it. Ludicrous behaviour befitting a half-wit I say.

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 10:25:12 AM PDT
Oh, I feel your pain. Why didn't Amazon block me from seeing their UK site, where I found tons of books that I couldn't buy just because I live in the US? It's so not fair.

We should never have to see *anything* that we cannot have. It hurts. Dude, the BBC won't allow non-UKers to watch TV episodes online! I offered to pay a monthly fee, but no-go. It's just plain old not fair. BBCAmerica doesn't carry everything, you know. Why didn't they block me from being able to read the news that they were making online viewing available when I was reading BBCNews online?

And while I'm thinking about it, it is totally wrong that people in Japan have all kinds of cool electronic goodies LONG before we get them over here, if they ever come at all.

I'm going out to the garden and eat a worm.

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 10:30:32 AM PDT
Was there this level of madness when the Fire was announced for the US market only? The only ludicrous behaviour I can see here is the people whining on this thread! There is an explanation on the kindle users forum as to how circumnavigate the shipping restriction amazon has in place. So if you want a Paperwhite, you can order one. I'm in the fortunate position of having friends in the USA with a trip planned not long after the Paperwhite's release.

However, even I weren't in that position, I wouldn't be throwing a giant hissy fit about how unfair Amazon are being, and constantly, unfavourably comparing them to Apple. Does everyone forget that the iPhone 4 had a worldwide day and date release that left Apple with egg all over its face when a fault was discovered in the hardware? I'm not saying Amazon are awesome and Apple suck (I have just about an iEverything, as well as a Kindle) or anything. I think what I'm really saying is that in the grand scheme of things, a delayed release for the rest of the world on a new Kindle device really isn't worth getting upset over.

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 10:35:16 AM PDT
TyraD says:
@Susan and other posters of the same ilk - seriously these types of arguments do not hold weight when Amazon advertise themselves as a global company: "Amazon, a Fortune 500 company based in Seattle, Washington, is the global leader in e-commerce." In the examples you provide, BBC is NOT a global company or service so you cannot compare the two in the same way.

Yes our complaints maybe annoying to those that have access to these items but that does not mean our complaints are no less valid.

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 10:38:43 AM PDT
Yes the BBC is! It's head office is in the UK, but they have offices and channels all over the world. Amazon's head office is in the US, but they have offices and websites all over the world. The US has to wait for BBC America to show Doctor Who. The UK has to wait for Amazon to release the Paperwhite. So on that basis, I'm afraid you're actually invalidating your complaint.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 10:52:57 AM PDT
TyraD says:
Not global in the way you think - the BBC worldwide service refers to the news, not TV shows which was what it was being compared to. BBC world service =/= BBC America. Either way the BBC and Amazon are in no way comparable as they don't provide the same services/products.

Amazon present themselves as a global commerce company, therefore should, imho, treat all their customers, regardless of location, the same instead of alienating them.

TBH I wouldn't have minded so much if they had given us an international release date, but instead they choose to ignore us. Not a good business practice if you ask me.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 10:55:37 AM PDT
ok, so tell me, if D'amazon did have a release date for international users of 2014 due to regulations in every country they sold too, would you be happy then?

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 11:00:49 AM PDT
Or would you prefer they set an international release date and then changed it continually as they couldn't meet the demand? Has it occurred to anyone that they haven't said anything about a release outside the US because they simply don't know WHEN a release will be a viable option?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 11, 2012 11:02:50 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 11, 2012 11:03:35 AM PDT
yes it did to me
EDIT too add, its actually pretty obvious to me, guess some others here are not as smart as they thought they were

Posted on Sep 11, 2012 11:02:58 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
for what it's worth, apple doesn't release all at once either
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