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Can the Paperwhite 3G browse the web using its 3G connection?


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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:06:18 AM PDT
If that's true, I'm surprised they just released an update for it. And that they didn't release any new e-ink devices with TTS, or any audio capability.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:07:35 AM PDT
No, the fact that i can buy a device from amazon that does what they won't allow on the paperwhite is upsetting. They can charge more, limit the data or whatever, but the 3G data has made them a ton of sales and more in media for the device. Hell, let that tell people to pay the fire HD data fee - at least it's an option.
Every potential situation where someone would want 3G you've suggested are all things that one can do with wifi, which is available everywhere in America, even in rural areas.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:08:22 AM PDT
Mary Jane says:
The Kindle Keyboard may not be advertised with the new Kindle products, but it is still available with 3G.

Kindle Keyboard 3G, Free 3G + Wi-Fi, 6" E Ink Display - includes Special Offers & Sponsored Screensavers

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:10:10 AM PDT
Then why do they outsell the wifi version w/ the 3G version of their devices? And why do they even sell the 3G versions if most people don't care about it?
I'm willing to pay, but there are no options to do so. I've already stated in previous posts on this thread that i'd be happy to pay that fire hd data premium of 50 bucks as long as I can do what I need to. So let them offer that as an option. a software update would allow for it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:19:20 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
that's what I said - it's the wifi one that isn't available

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:26:58 AM PDT
Mary Jane says:
You're right. Sorry. I just linked the 3G one because that is the one being discussed. I thought I saw the wifi only one on there, too, but I was mistaken.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 10:27:43 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
no problem :)

Posted on Oct 1, 2012 10:48:00 AM PDT
I'm on the phone with Amazon now. They are considering changes to the policies. I've stated here and also to them that I am willing to pay for the data extra. The rep from Kindle dept said that he thinks they could change the policy very easily and that this type of service is what they were going after with the first kindle, but it was abused. He said that a change might require a call to them to activate an extra service such as data for web browsing.

I guess if it's not available by Christmas shopping season I might just pick up the KK on ebay for 70 bucks or less and use that. At least I can pass it down to my sister or mom when and if they allow the paperwhite to access the web.

I think that if they charge a fee for it, those who really need it will ante up for it, and it will allow the paperwhite to go as is for those who aren't willing to pay a few bucks extra. If they're charging 50 for a year's access on the fire hd they should be able to offer similar data on 3G for the same or less.

Anyway I know I left a bunch of posts here, hope I didn't offend anyone but I do feel strongly about this.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 11:11:18 AM PDT
Louis Hemmi says:
I agree, Bixillarla!!

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 11:19:33 AM PDT
**Meya** says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 11:22:18 AM PDT
Craig says:
The global 3G is for downloading books - that's what the product page says. That's what it's designed for. That what Amazon wants it used for. That it used to be less restrictive is besides the point. If you don't like the restriction, feel free to buy any other device on the market with free 3G web browsing.

Below is the description of the 3G functionality from the KK product page. If you're going to tell people they're wrong, at least look up the facts first.

Free 3G Wireless
No annual contracts, no monthly fees. Download books anytime, anywhere. Learn more.

Global 3G Coverage
Travel the globe and still get books in under 60 seconds with wireless coverage in over 100 countries and territories.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 11:36:23 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 11:49:53 AM PDT
I don't believe that's true.

The product page for the K3 3G(now KK 3G) has always said, and still says, just "Experimental web browsing is free." As far as I've read, whenever anyone asked, Amazon always said that, even while using 3G, this was NOT restricted to Amazon and Wikipedia.

When the product page for the Touch 3G was first put up, the wording was changed slightly, and was somewhat ambiguous. It was only after many questions were asked and many conflicting answers were given, that Amazon finally posted the definitive answer and changed the wording on the product page to say clearly that 3G browsing would be limited to Amazon and Wiki.

The Paperwhite 3G product page, like the amended page for the late Touch, and unlike the KK 3G page, says clearly "Kindle Paperwhite 3G enables you to connect to the Kindle Store and access Wikipedia - all over 3G or Wi-Fi. Experimental web browsing on other websites is only available over Wi-Fi."

The free 3G browsing is one reason that many people (including me) are still hanging onto our KK 3G Kindles even after buying newer models. Browsing on it is not a particularly pleasant experience, but it works in a pinch when I'm travelling out of my Sprint phone area and wifi isn't immediately available. I'd love to have a small, capped, amount of web browsing on the PW, and I'd be willing to pay for it, on a monthly or annual basis.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 11:55:29 AM PDT
Mary Jane says:
I didn't believe that it was true, either. I have a K2, and while clunky, was able to get to other sites on the internet. And most people here always said the same thing.

So, I looked it up. I brought up an old K2 page and scanned for the wireless. There is a section that says No Montly Wireless Bills. There is a clickable link to the Wireless Terms and Conditions. Here is what it says;

"Your Conduct. You may use the wireless connectivity provided by us only in connection with the Service as permitted by this Agreement. You may not use the wireless connectivity for any other purpose."

It is buried but it is there. I never saw it and I never heard it referred to, either.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 12:04:46 PM PDT
King Al says:
Actually, the TOS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200506200&#content) does not explicitly state that it is permitted or not.

(The quotes below are not in the order they appear in the actual TOS.)

"Your Conduct. You may use the wireless connectivity provided by us only in connection with the Service as permitted by this Agreement. You may not use the wireless connectivity for any other purpose. "

" "Service" means the wireless connectivity that we provide Kindle users, the provision of Digital Content, Software, and support and other services that we provide Kindle and Reading Application users."

The question is whether web browsing falls under the definition of "Service."

Since the KK product page still says "Kindle Keyboard features an experimental web browser based on WebKit to provide a better web browsing experience. Now it's easier than ever to find the information you're looking for right from your Kindle. Experimental web browsing is free", it is reasonable to assume that it does fall under the definition of "Service."

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 12:22:59 PM PDT
Mary Jane says:
I guess it all depends on how you read it. I also did not dig deep enough. I found this later on the K2 page:

Basic Web Browser

"Kindle's Basic Web browser works well to read simple, text-centric Web sites such as Google and Wikipedia. Need to find a movie listing or look up a sports score? Now it's easier than ever to find the information you're looking for right from your Kindle."

At the time, it did mean for the browser to be used for simple surfing.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 12:27:27 PM PDT
CBRetriever says:
and at the time that was written, it's likely that the international version hadn't been released yet

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 12:34:09 PM PDT
Mary Jane says:
True, that was the wording for the K2US. So, I looked at the K2i. It is:

Basic Web Browser

"Kindle's basic Web browser works well to read simple, text-centric Web sites such as Google and Wikipedia. Need to find a movie listing or look up a sports score? Now it's easier than ever to find the information you're looking for right from your Kindle. The experimental Web browser is not currently available for some customers outside of the U.S."

It is still meant for simple surfing. My point is that it was not against the Amazon TOS to use the free 3G for surfing.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 12:45:41 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 12:50:12 PM PDT
Mary Jane says:
You can only hope. I do wish you luck. That was a very nice service when it was offered. I still have a K2i and I can do light surfing. It is slow and clunky so I don't do it much but it is nice to have when necesary.

Posted on Oct 1, 2012 12:52:44 PM PDT
CBRetriever says:
from the UK website:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_cn?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200504420#browsingcountries

it's a list of the countries in which 3G browsing works (note that France is not one of them)

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 1:05:36 PM PDT
thanks Mary Jane. I use my iPhone 5 and my iPad 3 most of the time, but when looking for a 4th mobile device ( I also have a Fire ) I'm looking for both the web for when on vacation as well as a device that I can seamlessly use on the beach, in the dark etc. The paperwhite is the best ereader out there and I'd hate to pass that up just to use the slow web service a couple times a year.

Posted on Oct 1, 2012 1:34:45 PM PDT
**Meya** says:
This has always been in the wireless terms:

" Your Conduct. You may use the wireless connectivity provided by us only in connection with the Service as permitted by this Agreement. You may not use the wireless connectivity for any other purpose."

Always. Not always enforced, but always there.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 1:40:46 PM PDT
Mary Jane says:
But this statement does not define what they mean by "service". You seem to define it as only browsing the Amazon store and downloading books. From the product description, it is written "Kindle's basic Web browser works well to read simple, text-centric Web sites such as Google and Wikipedia. Need to find a movie listing or look up a sports score? Now it's easier than ever to find the information you're looking for right from your Kindle." Part of the "service" of the Kindle was defined as being able to use the internet.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2012 1:54:53 PM PDT
**Meya** says:
"Service" means the wireless connectivity that we provide Kindle users, the provision of Digital Content, Software, and support and other services that we provide Kindle and Reading Application users.

You can read the whole thing here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200506200
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