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Posted on Nov 2, 2011 2:48:20 PM PDT
HoundOfDog says:
Based on both the limitations of the Fire, and the disregard of the Canadian market, I'll just wait for the Samsung 7.7 Tablet, which will have a proper Android OS, way better specs. Tired of the crippled Canadian support that even now isn't near parity with the U.S. Amazon service.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2011 4:13:32 PM PDT
Montezuma says:
Agreed, was considering that as well. Or a Playbook.

Posted on Nov 11, 2011 11:05:24 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 11, 2011 11:05:41 PM PST
Jay Coops says:
I was considering the Kobo Vox, but early reviews indicate a lot of teething problems. If they can be sorted out I will NOT be buying a Fire.

As a loyal Kindle user it was hard to admit that - on paper - the Vox is close enough to the Fire to make it worth blowing rasberries at Amazon and the way they look at Canada as a Second-Rate country

Seriously disappointed with Amazon over this

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 12, 2011 10:04:53 AM PST
I couldn't agree more. I too am a loyal Kindle fan that feels a little done over by the lack of Canadian support by Amazon to the faithful clients. I had preordered my Kindle Fire the first day of it's release only to find out it wasn't available to Canada. Since that time I've followed this thread for updates and that's how I found out about the Vox. I did a little research and went out and nabbed one. I put it away until Christmas. I'm sure much of the growing pains will be sorted out by then. I'll always keep my Kindle Keyboard but when the Fire becomes available to Canada, it might be a lot more considerations to make by people like myself who made the purchase of the Vox. I think that Amazon missed the boat here. Is it going to hurt them? Not too much. And that's probably all the justification they needed.

Posted on Nov 12, 2011 4:56:25 PM PST
Jay Coops says:
The irony is I assume I can download the kindle app to a Vox and use it as if it WAS a kindle, so in the end they will prbably get my cash anyway!

My Kindle 3G was/is my all time favourite gadget and the Fire got me excited. I feel slighted by Amazon and they have not even had the decency to explain any rationale behind the decision

Posted on Nov 12, 2011 5:13:55 PM PST
Ryan Thexton says:
It's amazing how entitled we are all becoming about the latest gadgets out of the United States. It is simple economics: They have 10 times the population of Canada. American companies need to make sure they have enough to satiate the demand of their largest market, namely their own. When they have the pipeline stabilized, they will expand. Like it or not, Canada is a secondary market. Think of it this way: By the time it makes it to Canada, most of the bugs will have been ironed out of the hardware. You might as well get used to it, the same thing is going to happen with the iPad 3.

Posted on Nov 12, 2011 5:21:40 PM PST
JMW59 says:
Hey Ann...grow up! You give the term "ugly americans" validity.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011 11:31:13 AM PST
you guys are just selfish... Amazon is doing this because they don't have the infrastructure that Apple has yet, obviously they can't deliver the high demand this tablet has to offer in both US and Canada so they have to start somewhere, just be patient and wait until it comes out, it might even come out just in time for the holidays...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2011 5:00:45 PM PST
don't you think that amazon would love to sell in canada? I am willing to bet that it is a matter of rights and canada is the one that will not allow the sale.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 12:26:17 AM PST
Ryan Thexton says:
Canada is not in the habit of blocking the sale of popular electronics products. If there is any delay at all it is because there are licensing deals to be hashed out between the two countries (in favour of the American studios that put out the content), but that mostly pertains to digital media (books, video, music etc). Canada has no competing products so what do we have to gain by blocking it? What makes you think that Canada will not allow the sale?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 3:55:12 PM PST
I don't agree at all. They have to consider us as human being, not bastards.

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 4:11:50 PM PST
G. Rascon says:
this guy from canada bought a kindle fire. watch this youtube clip to see how he did it

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 5:20:12 PM PST
OK, enough Amazon and US bashing!

There are a number of ways to get US only products in Canada. I happen to be very near the boarder so I used a service called "Shipp Happens". I use their address and when I arrives, they send me an email and I go pick it up. I picked up the Kindle Fire today.

Now, when I opened it up in Canada I was in for quite a shock. None of the apps were loaded and without an American CC, I couldn't use the Amazon Android market. That meant that I had a useless device...or did I?

I registered my Kindle Fire with Amazon and changed my profile to say I was in the US. When I restarted the Fire, Amazon updated the system and added a few apps.

Next, on my computer , I googled for "dropbox apk". Then I downloaded the dropbox.apk and emailed it to my Gmail account.

I configured the email client on the Kindle Fire and downloaded the dropbox.apk attachment.

I opened the Word viewer app on the kindle and opened the "dropbox.apx" file and installed Dropbox on the Kindle. I finished up by configuring Dropbox with my Dropbox account.

Finally, back on my computer, I googled various Android apps and put them into my Dropbox. The first thing I loaded was a browers. The best browser on any Android device is Dolphin HD. Here is what you should start searching for:

"Dolphin HD apx"
"Angry Birds apx"
"fruit ninja apx"

Download all of these files and drop them into your Drobox. Back on the Fire, open and install the applications.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 5:40:59 PM PST
I was wondering. If all I wanted to do was browse the net, do some facebooking, check my email and buy books from amazon, could I do that with the standard out of the box Kindle fire? I'm not sure I really want to invest a lot of time in configuring it as you did. But if I could browse and buy my books from the kindle store I would be quite happy.

Thanks in advance,

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 6:02:54 PM PST
G. Rascon says:
Richard, so you did the same thing the guy did in the youtube clip I posted

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 6:59:51 PM PST
I am not sure what was posted on Youtube (I watched the clip and I don't know what you mean). There are quite a few tutorials on how to "side load apps" on the Kindle but all of them that I could find depended on downloading a file manager from the Amazon store but in Canada, you don't have any access to the Amazon store. My small variation on the procedure doesn't require access to the Amazon store and doesn't require you to connect your Kindle to your home computer. I don't claim to be the originator of anything, I just listed what I did.

Now, the procedure I followed could be done in less than 15 minutes so not a lot of time or expertise is required. I have to add that the quality of the Fire is truly amazing. It is very solid and the glass front is Monster Glass (look that up). The result is a device that is much more durable than an iPad and fits better in my kids hands.

To Jamie, no the Kindle will arrive essentially without a browser or most of the usable apps. I realize that the procedure may seem complicated but it will take you less time and effort than setting up your laptop for the first time. For $200.00 (and the quality of the hardware), I think it is well worth a bit of hassle.

I hope that helps.

Posted on Nov 19, 2011 7:12:49 PM PST
G. Rascon says:
in the video, the guy that lives in canada went to buffalo to pick up his kindle. they hold packages there for canadians

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2011 7:31:19 PM PST
Yes, that is exactly what I did. I'm sorry, I was referring to the rest of the procedure. Based on all the demos on-line of the Kindle, I thought it would come with more apps pre-installed.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 4:16:58 AM PST
So Richard, you then cannot link your existing amazon account with the Fire? All my kindle books I own now will be unaccessible unless I change my account to an US address and do a bit of the other configuring? Will it negatively effect how you'll purchase books from amazon in the future? Will you still be able to use a Canadian credit card?
Sorry for all the questions!!

Posted on Nov 20, 2011 4:27:31 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
so, is the streaming media working?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 6:54:15 PM PST
I am not sure I can answer this question accurately but I let me try to explain what I know. My kindle does connect to my Amazon account and I can use the on-line storage (I think). I think it os only the Android store that requires a US CC.

Based on what I know, I think your amazon books will work fine.

I'll buy a book to test it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2011 7:20:13 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2011 8:21:32 PM PST
Any Amazon services that are not available to Canada now are not available on the Kindle Fire. Also, anything you have available now will be available on the Kindle Fire.

It is better to think about the Kindle Fire as a Amazon branded tablet the say way Toshiba sells a laptop with a few "Toshiba specific add-ons".

Regardless of the Amazon add-ons, this is an Android tablet so it can do anything any other tablet or Android phone can do. So, even if you had to, you could download the Android Kindle app onto the tablet. (I don't believe you need to do this though.)

There are only two things that limit the Fire outside the US:
1. The Amazon Android market requires an American Credit card. (I have posted how to get around this. - Legally)
2. The Amazon browser... It doesn't load outside of Canada so you can't use it. You need to load another Android browser.

To sum up, Amazon has produced a very nice tablet for the amazing price of $200. Although Amazon integrated a number of services into the device, most of them do not work outside of the US. We need to keep in mind that it is those services that allows Amazon to sell this device at a loss. So, these crazy Americans are paying for part of my Kindle Fire. In any case, with about 15 minutes of work, we can make this device every bit as useful as a iPad. When you think about this device, think about it as an Android phone or tablet (after 15 minutes of setup). Whatever you can do on a computer or an iPad, you can do on this device.

I did purchase a couple.of books and they worked fine using my existing Canadian account. I don't believe you need to keep your location set to the US to use the kindle Fire.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2011 8:32:39 AM PST
I fooled them. I did everything you did with one more. Use your VPN and get a new email address from within a US site.

Posted on Nov 21, 2011 9:43:17 AM PST
dorothy says:
Hope I will be able to do all that you are doing Richard...I am not at all computer savy..will not receive my Fire until the 28th., and am quite sure I will be crying for help...thanks for posting all the tips..even though I don't understand everything it makes interesting reading..

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2011 8:21:56 PM PST
Dorothy: I am happy to help. This is such a great device, I think everyone should be able to have one.

Dennis: Did getting an American email address help you get more US functionality?
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