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Can the Paperwhite 3G browse the web using its 3G connection?


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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:35:40 AM PST
How is that free 3G from Apple working out?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:39:23 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:40:57 AM PST
"This is the assumption you make when you purchase the Paperwhite 3G"

No, this is the assumption YOU made. An assumption on your part does not create an obligation on Amazon's part.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:41:04 AM PST
You're an idiot. The kindle has always supported unlimited browsing even advertising it as such till they put a limit on it. They still advertise their browser in the old ads. So perhaps you should apologize for not having your facts right

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:50:20 AM PST
I didn't purchase it with the expectation of receiving 3G nor did I pay extra to get 3G then get blocked from using it. Actually it may be a violation of FCC rules to block 3G use so any concerned may wish to file an FCC complaint.
If apple had offered me free Internet on a previous device I would not buy a newer one unless it was provided. But I can tether my iPads data anytime.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:52:12 AM PST
Unfortunately amazon is losing a lot of sales over this change and appears to be violating net neutrality rules as well by limiting how the 3G is used when we are paying for it. Being charged an upfront fee higher than that of a non 3G kindle means its being charged for.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 7:55:28 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
I doubt they're losing a lot of sales over it as wifi is pretty much available everywhere (usually for free)

The current generation of kindle users (last couple of years) has no expectation of free 3G on a kindle - I, for one, have never used it and prefer to use my phone if I want to check email

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 8:03:17 AM PST
Actually, it means the HARDWARE is being charged for with the additional cost, not the service.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 8:09:09 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
and i use the 3G all the time, so it's totally worth it for me - the instant translation needs a wireless connection and having 3G means I can use it in a park or the beach or in my office at work

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 8:23:47 AM PST
King Al says:
Waiting for this post to be deleted by Amazon...

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 8:24:36 AM PST
King Al says:
It is not a violation of net neutrality, since Amazon is not an ISP.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:08:54 AM PST
I think the issue is that Amazon has indeed changed what they offer and not made it clear enough to some that they've basically crippled 3G to make it feasible only for those without Internet. Because they created a perceived benefit of free Internet on the kindle, now that they've changed policies but not cut the 3G price some of us have a reasonable expectation of receiving the same 3G services one would receive if they purchased a kindle keyboard.
For me, I wanted the value from using even tiered Internet when in an area where it would be cost prohibitive to get connected. Such as the Caribbean islands. Many cruisers used kindle data to check and respond to emails while on a vacation. Really it's a minimal thing but that bit of value goes a long way when Selling a product that does what one ios app does. There is some value in the screen viewable in sunlight as well.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012 10:14:18 AM PST
From the PW product description page:

Free 3G wireless - no hunting or paying for Wi-Fi hotspots, no annual contracts or monthly fees

3G wireless works globally - ***********download books********** anytime, anywhere

Free, always-connected 3G wireless lets you ******shop and download books******* virtually anywhere

Amazon's only mistake is believing that people who are purchasing e-readers are people who actually read.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:17:31 AM PST
They're providing the data to the end user. Kind of like when companies would purchase voice minutes in bulk from a carrier and reselling it. You camping out on this page to try and repel customer complaints doesn't change the facts.
They are entitled to change their policies but in fact have been particularly unclear on this issue to the point where people don't know if they have this data for browsing or not until and unless they inquire. This is done to sell more 3G devices despite crippling the 3G service. For a company based on good customer service I think it's a huge mistake. Once Amazon loses their goodwill they will see it affects their bottom line.
I bought 3 fires last year because it was the only way at the time to view amazon prime vids on the go. Had they changed that policy all 3 would've gone back. They're seeing a lot of confusion over the new policies and haven't made it clear to most people that the data is now restricted.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:21:01 AM PST
And that first line about not hunting for wifi hotspots presumes that one will be able to use that data for browsing. Being condescending about confusion over what is clearly a confusing description meant to avoid clearly stating that they've crippled the data only shows what kind of a person you are. When you are tough enough to be condescending to someone in person, do it. Otherwise be courteous.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012 10:40:07 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 28, 2012 10:59:04 AM PST
J. Donahue says:
I would suggest that everyone who is convinced that Amazon is attempting to defraud them by only allowing limited 3G web access on Amazon devices simply return their Amazon devices for a refund. Then, take the money from that refund and put it towards a device that accomplishes what it is you want to do.

Postulating ad nauseum on a Amazon forum about why Amazon should change their devices to fit individual needs that said devices weren't intended to fulfill in the first place seems to be a terrible waste of time.

One could spend that time attempting to achieve world peace, instead of trying to convince the rather small subset of people who read these forums how evil Amazon is.

IMHO

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:42:57 AM PST
R. D. Clark says:
I am always courteous to people who appear to be frothing at the mouth. As I back away, slowly.

If you have a Kindle for which unfettered access to the Internet was offered via 3G, guess what? It still works. I think the K3 (KK) was the last one. Amazon did not change the rules.

The new products have different features from the old products. Not much of a surprise. Do you still assume a new computer comes with a floppy drive? I remember when people actually were shocked when their new system arrived floppy-less. Whose fault? The vendor who never said there was one? I don't think so.

You talk about how people were using the free 3G all the time for routine data chores. Why would it surprise you that Amazon is not willing to continue to pay for that sort of non-Kindle related usage on the new devices, which are much faster and easier to use for browsing.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:56:00 AM PST
Anne Shirley says:
Reported for insulting language.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:56:43 AM PST
Anne Shirley says:
Me too. Just reported it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:58:47 AM PST
King Al says:
They have NOT been unclear. It is clear from the product description that you cannot browse sites other than Amazon and Wikipedia over 3G.

"WebKit-Based Browser
Kindle Paperwhite 3G's experimental web browser is based on WebKit. It's easy to find the information you're looking for right from your Kindle Paperwhite 3G. Kindle Paperwhite 3G enables you to connect to the Kindle Store and access Wikipedia - all over 3G or Wi-Fi. Experimental web browsing on other websites is only available over Wi-Fi"

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 10:59:00 AM PST
Anne Shirley says:
How about sending all your Amazon products back, taking out a full page "Amazon sux" ad in your local newspaper, and then STFU.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 11:00:29 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 28, 2012 11:02:59 AM PST
King Al says:
You need to look up net neutrality. Your whining about it does not change the fact that Amazon is NOT the service provider -- AT&T is.

ETA: Changed "web" to "net." Also, Amazon has every right not to want to subsidize your web browsing habits.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 11:01:25 AM PST
J. Donahue says:
Since there hasn't been wide spread reports of Kindle devices being returned or thrown in the trash due to the lack of expanded FREE web browsing on 3G, I would suggest that the only obvious confusion is in your interpretation of Amazon's description.

Again, IMHO.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012 11:34:34 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
and are you aware that you're now limited to only 50MB a month when outside your home country on the older kindles that do support 3G web browsing (that gets eaten up rather quickly)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012 11:36:38 AM PST
How about you stop defending what is obviously misleading language and follow your own suggestion. Again another who grows a pair from afar. I dare say you wouldn't be so condescending in person.
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