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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 7:40:09 AM PST
momtaxi says:
Kindle parental controls aren't going to keep erotica out of the hands of your children and they aren't in the parenting business...that's your job.

If your kids want to peek at x rated material, they're going to, and adding parental controls to a K isn't going to stop them. Making it "forbidden!" just makes kids even more curious.

Posted on Nov 22, 2010 7:59:40 AM PST
@OP,

I am a parent of a grown child and I DO NOT WANT PARENTAL CONTROLS on my Kindle. My son was given access to the Internet when he was 4 and I watched what he was doing and where he was going until I felt that he was mature enough to understand what he was looking at. If the kids want to access things like nudity, they will find a way to do it. I had had "the talk" about sex by that time.

Please do not say WE NEED... You do NOT speak for all of us... If you need parental controls, I think it is something that should be an option that YOU CAN PAY FOR!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 8:02:59 AM PST
Good on you, Laurie. I agree with all you're saying. As far as accessing "nudity" goes, let's remember that "nudity" is not the same as "pornography" - John Ashcroft's reaction to classical statues notwithstanding. :-)

I like the idea of those who need parental controls (is that where the parent are controlled?) pay extra for the 'convenience'.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 9:53:36 AM PST
Claudia says:
I totally agree, Mass Reader. Adding more features to the Kindle wouldn't be a cost-free thing for Amazon to do, and I do not care to be forced to pay for anything to do with parental controls. Parents should be able to parent their own children without expecting corporations to pay to do their job for them. My parents never put any restrictions on anything I wanted to read, and I grew up to be a responsible adult with the continuing habit of reading several books a week. My own daughter, who is now grown, was able to read anything she wanted to read the entire time she was growing up, and it doesn't seem to have hurt her, either. I think people should encourage their children to read, not sit around trying to figure out how to limit their reading.

Parents who are overly concerned that their children will read something 'inappropriate' are probably already late to the party - children always seem to be at least one step ahead of wherever their parents think they are anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 10:15:05 AM PST
Mary A. says:
I humbly agree....what's wrong with raising your own kids the way you see fit. It's called supervision. We've gotten so used to everyone doing everything for us that we've become a nation of mindless zombies. Three cheers for parents who still parent!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 10:19:36 AM PST
BareThoughts says:
Hmmm... there are a few options currently on the K3 that I do not want/use... maybe thsoe who do should have to pay more also?

I really do not get all the venom against those who do want some sort of parental controls... it ias not like they are saying everyone must use them, it is just an option they would like to have.

And while I would never use such control as a way to restrict reading for my child, I can see where some might find it handy... and if it was just something as simply as being able to password protect the archive and ordering ability, why be so against it? Especially if it could lead to more Kindle demand?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 10:20:41 AM PST
BareThoughts says:
The I think people who want the current password protection should pay extra... not to mention the popular highlights and test to speech.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 10:41:47 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 10:59:29 AM PST
OP wants to do more than Amazon rating books. OP wants Amazon to stop selling books OP deems "inappropriate" "for the children".
And wants to block sales of those books to anyone just in case a Kindle with such a book gets into the hands of a child.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 11:02:06 AM PST
"If they really want to find/read erotica, they can get it on the internet...without an e-reader"

Without even explicitly looking for it.
My father a few years ago was looking for birding resources and typed "bird watching" into Google, not knowing that's a euphemism for gazing at pictures of nekkid young girls.
He was bombarded with dozens of porn sites, not a single site with real birds on it.

Posted on Nov 22, 2010 11:03:18 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2010 11:04:03 AM PST
S.L. Baum says:
As a mother of 2 young(er) kiddos who will be getting a Kindle for christmas (10 & 12) - I do not want or need parental controls. Everything that is downloaded (purchased) through the Amazon website will result in an immediate email telling what the specific content is. Also (as with my older daughter's cell phone) I will have access to their Kindle at any moment of any day. I can pick it up and see exactly what is on there and what they've been up to. But, that is just my opinion - obviously it would be impossible to have a universal parenting consensus.

My stronger opinion is that I (as a parent) am the ONLY person that is responsible for the content my children have access to (not the TV networks, not the music industry, not the internet providers, not Amazon - those are businesses - I am the parent). But again, that's just my opinion - and I also know what they say about opinions ;D

S.L. Baum
A Chance for Charity (The Immortal Ones)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 11:08:01 AM PST
no Vicky, you got it wrong. There should be no "opt-out" for any "parental control" (i.e. censorship) but opt-in. Those wanting it, if it is implemented at all (and I don't think it should be) should explicitly have to sign up for it in writing with signatures on a legal contract to Amazon that Amazon can block anything Amazon considers inappropriate to children and they have no legal recourse if that's not what they themselves want blocked.
Any other solution would 1) cause Amazon to get sued all the time because someone, somewhere, thinks something like Harry Potter is "inappropriate" (I know those books aren't available on Kindle, but there have been scores of claims that they promote homosexuality, devil worship, sex, and other things) 2) cause people who don't want to be limited in their choice to be so limited because of a few lazy nutters who can't be bothered to raise their own children.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 11:08:34 AM PST
sabst79 says:
Wow. .. common sense still exists. . go figure.

Posted on Nov 22, 2010 11:13:40 AM PST
M. Murphy says:
No one has yet responded to the point that the email address assigned to the account gets a notification everytime a book, free or not, is purchased.

Why can't a parent use that to monitor their archives? If a book is put into the archives that the parents find inappropriate, they delete it and issue behavior correction to the child as they see fit.

I have no problem with my kids reading my archives. I suspect this is about a mother with erotica on her Kindle that she doesn't want her kids to read, not about wanting to keep erotica off a Kindle.

If you don't want your kids breaking into the liquor cabinet, don't have one. If you don't want your kids reading your porn stash don't have one. If you don't want your kids reading your erotica, don't have any.

"Do as I say and not as I do" has never been a great philosophy. Its fine for adults to engage in drinking and porn and erotica, but when they start to have children, they need to adapt these behaviors to model the behavior they expect from their children. Parents don't have to be prudes, but they can't expect respect from children if the kids perceive them to be hypocrites.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 11:31:03 AM PST
Missy says:
brilliant idea. many of my books are not appropriate for my 6yo. If I could password my collections individually... my sons could play games or read storybooks anytime!

Posted on Nov 22, 2010 11:34:30 AM PST
Claudia says:
I would never hand over my Kindle to any child 6 or under - it's a delicate electronic device, and as careful as children might try to be, their motor skills just aren't there (neither are their judgement skills). Young children can play games and read books in many other forms other than a Kindle. Age-appropriate devices might be more, well, appropriate.

Posted on Nov 22, 2010 12:29:06 PM PST
Jane P. says:
We have way too many controls and too much censorship in our lives now. Why not just be responsible and teach kids at home what they need to know and then trust then?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 12:50:44 PM PST
©™ says:
>Mass Reader says:
>>the OPs suggestion of a rating system

>Oh, I dunno. Movies are all rated, but I'm way more than 'grown up' in my 60s, so I just don't even pay any attention to movie ratings.
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Yeah, these "rating systems" sure helped alot in my early days. It was easier to get adult movies, than to get a good book, when I was young.

But hey, at least, we knew by rating, what the good movies are. ;-)

PS: No, I am neither a serial killer, nor have I become mentally ill in any way. I am just a bit cynical from time to time.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 12:55:31 PM PST
Better cynical than serial, I guess.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 12:57:09 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 22, 2010 12:59:29 PM PST
Rod Govers says:
"these "rating systems" sure helped alot in my early days"

There was nothing better in my younger days (50s- 70s) than the Catholic Weekly for their treasure chest list of forbidden books and movies. I wasn't even a Catholic yet found it worth the 20c, or whatever, to slip into the local church vestibule every now and then and get a copy.

Posted on Nov 22, 2010 12:57:35 PM PST
Grimlock says:
"The extreme opposition to this baffles me."

I don't want, nor need this. I don't like being lumped into the 'we' of 'we need' something that I don't want, nor need, that's all. If Amazon gets enough 'we want it', and choose to focus their attention on parental controls, I'm cool with that. I just want them to know that I don't want/need, and that while I adore my Kindle as is, should they look to these threads to see what people are asking for, some people - like me - don't really care.

Honestly, other features would be more useful to me - and that's the whole point I wanted to make. Amazon is only going to focus on so many features at one point, and as a consumer without kids, I would benefit more from making my voice known. That is - us without kids/grandkids should have a voice, too.

Part of what rankles me about this thread is that consumers with kids feel entitled to have what would benefit them most, first, in my experience. I, and others who are single by choice, and quite happy not to be popping out a kid every now and then, are free to say, 'well, this wont' actually be useful to me, so if I have to cast a vote, I'd prefer you focus on something else,'.

I'm not going to throw a fit if Amazon deems me to be a minority. I just want to voice my opinion here. I think I'm being logical about the whole thing, not speaking with any malice towards anyone.

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Posted on Nov 22, 2010 1:11:22 PM PST
Mo Harker says:
Add me to the voices who do not need, nor want, a parental control system. the thing I don't like is that in broader terms it's a slippery slope. I want no part of it. And as many have said if you talk to kids and keep an eye on their content there isn't a problem. There has been more than a little bit of harm done in the "think of the children" vein. If amazon makes it, not much I can do about it, but it should be an opt in, instead of an opt out. Most people who use kindles are not children or of an age where anyone keeps an eye on what they read.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 1:11:27 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2010 1:12:54 PM PST
You seem fine to me, CC. Glad to have your thoughts on this.
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