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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2010 11:57:57 AM PST
It would be an OPTION. Optional. Only there if you wanted to use it. Just like the PW is that is now available for the Kindle itself.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2010 3:36:08 PM PST
"What the heck kind of books are you guys reading? Seriously, are there really books that are that off-limits to kids old enough to read a Kindle?"

You don't look at the Kindle freebies much, do you?

"How many kids will slog through an adult novel to try to find the "good" parts."

The massive amount of erotica that is free for the Kindle is pretty much nothing BUT "good" parts.

(Not advocating for parental controls, just clearing up what kind of content at least some of these people are talking about.)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2010 4:10:25 PM PST
CC you said it exactly right.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2010 5:26:10 AM PST
Thanks for your feedback. However, they aren't my kids. I'm a mentor to them in the Big Brother / Big Sister program. And trust me, they have issues. I still want to be able to help them with a built in dictionary and the ability to read text out loud that they are having trouble understanding. They are smart, and they have potential.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2010 5:56:56 AM PST
Tnafbrat says:
So far, I think the best suggestion is to register the kids' kindles to a separate account, don't give them the account password (that covers the online ordering by computer) and monitor it for what is being downloaded. The wifi only would help with the blocking on kindle based ordering. But, the biggest thing would be direct parental monitoring through the "manage your kindle page" as well as an occasional gander at the kindle if you're up for that.

I don't think the OP's point/question is necessarily invalid nor do I think the poster suggesting parental responsibility is an attack, however, no matter what manufacturer controls are available, kids can and will find and come in contact with things that we as parents would prefer they not. Monitoring and presence is still going to be the most effective way to "police" what they are/can be exposed to, keeping in mind that no matter the controls and monitoring, if they are determined, children will find a way to get their hands on "outlawed" media, whether it be on kindle, computer, tv, dtb. radio etc.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2010 7:43:44 AM PST
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Posted on Nov 29, 2010 7:49:02 AM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
I think the best parental controls are the PARENTS!!! :)

Posted on Nov 29, 2010 9:07:47 AM PST
If you are not their parent then buy the Kindle, load it as you see fit and deregister it from your account. It seems to me that unrestricted web access would be just as much of an issue as what books they download. Of course they can still download books with a computer.

Because the Kindle has built in web access and links to the Amazon store you might be better off with some other e-reader.

The issue you are having is not lack of Parental controls as many parents have been replying parents have controls that go beyond what is attached to the device and no amount of device protections will substitute for those controls. The issue you are having is that you are NOT the parent and so what you want to do is basically give a disconnected e-reader which cannot independently load books that you don't approve.

You may want to look at some other ereader. In my experience the things kids can see on the web out weigh any negative impact of them reading things you don't approve of.

Posted on Dec 7, 2010 6:32:42 PM PST
I am cracking up reading these posts. Most of you mothers on here screaming you just need to parent, you shouldn't need book ratings or parent controls. I would wager you are the same parents who would probably believe your child would be the one in the room that wouldn't pick up the gun. Guess what, they ALL pick up the gun.

You have to be realistic and realize that it doesn't matter if you have taught them to make the right choice, they are children and part of growing is testing limits. Me personally I would LOVE book ratings and parent controls (really people, do you think parent controls would be any different than they are now on explorer or firefox, you have to sign up for them). If i could create an amazon account for my son's (pre-teen) kindle we are getting him for Christmas and put money on a gift card that controls his spending, once its out he cant buy anymore and place a limit that he can't buy mature books, I would be thrilled! As a matter of fact I would have bought him one a long time ago.

And for you parents crying because you don't want to limit their reading....turn off your kids TV and video games during the school week, allow 20-30 minutes that the lights can stay on past bed time only if they are reading and I guarantee your kids will read more. My 8th grader was checking out the Illiad and the Odyssey in 6th grade for light reading. He sits down with a new book one day and is begging to buy a new one the next. If I can prevent him from spending money on something I am going to have to erase when I get the email....I am all over it. That's my parent spill.

Here is my spill as a clinical psychologist.... setting limits for your children is loving your children, and doing your job as a parent. Every choice I make as a parent has the end goal in my mind of raising self-sufficient (able to sustain themselves as adults in the world, independent leaders), happy (confident, sustaining strong friendships and loving relationships), Adults.

This isn't about limiting my child's reading choices, it is about taking away the carrot in the first place and letting him pick what he wants to read that is age and maturity appropriate. One last thing before I step off my soap parents with no limits and who are "trusting" their children.....don't come crawling with your hands out for my tax dollars to raise your teenagers kid when you thought it wasn't even worth the fight to try and teach your kids that sex should only be happening between mature adults who understand and are prepared for the consequences of their actions, not between two teenagers who think it's no big deal because they were saturated in it as kids and teenagers.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 7, 2010 6:49:00 PM PST
Vicky, I have to ask. How would optional parent controls on kindle ruin anything for you if you didn't turn them on. Also, isn't someone turning on parent controls to limit their child's access simply a tool in parenting? Asking for parent controls is not making Amazon responsible for her children, just asking Amazon to make this wonderful world of reading material safe for her kids to play in as well.

Posted on Dec 7, 2010 7:29:33 PM PST
"I would like the authors of Kindle manuscripts to (at their discression) submit their literature to receive a rating code."
omg! are you serious??? think censorship- ratings are one step away... wow...
but seriously. if you cannot trust a child to be responsible with content then you probably dont need to trust them with a $140+ electronic device.

Posted on Dec 7, 2010 7:34:09 PM PST
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Posted on Dec 7, 2010 7:44:32 PM PST
SMM2571 says:
I read so much as a kid that I quickly outgrew the childrens section of the library. The librarian gave me permission to take books from the adult side. I was also swiping my mom's horror novels and trashy romance novels at 12.. I grew up to be a productive member of society. Sorry, but I think kids are way too coddled in this day and age-I wouldn't even bother giving a kid a Kindle if you've got to lock it down. Just my 2 cents.

Posted on Dec 7, 2010 8:21:13 PM PST
Alright, I got sick of reading all the arguing by page 6, so I'm just going to throw my two cents in.

First off, if your kids have internet access, I think the last thing you need to worry about is erotic books, because there is an immediate electronic trail leading to the purchase, you may want to be more worried about the free porn sites all over the internet.

Second, someone mentioned earlier that password protection and parental controls are the same. They are not. Parental controls block certain content as is defined by someone else. In order to have these "Parental Controls" someone will have to go through and mark each book as being appropriate for XX ages and so on and so forth. This is not free. This costs money. Also you need to figure out where do you draw the line. A lot of REALLY good books have a few erotic scenes in them. how do you determine what is appropriate for what ages.

A number of viable solutions to your problem have been made. All I see now is trolling. By both sides. This conversation (or atleast the conversation that I have read so far) has done nothing except degenerate into mindless bickering in which both sides are unlikely to agree with each other. I say we just stop it now, as nothing productive is being created by this.

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Posted on Dec 8, 2010 1:59:56 AM PST
GreyDay says:
One way they could impliment that is from the Manage My Kindle page of amazon. This needs a password to access.
They could have checkboxes on each book for each device registered. Only the devices checked for that book would see that book in it's archive so while it wouldn't stop them from downloading they wouldn't be able to open it on their kindle unless you checked it for them. For that the default would have to be unchecked while I would prefer the default to be checked for all devices. Perhaps the default could be set differently for each device, checked for your kindle, unchecked for theirs.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 3:58:29 AM PST
Mary, having rating on the books would allow parents and kids to choose books at their age appropriate level, meaning a six year old could get on and choose books that would be understandable by a 1st grader. Having those parent controls are not always about trust either. There are books out there that may be bought by a child because of the name that are of a topic level that could scare them or introduce them to things before they are ready. I had a 2nd grader who was capable of reading books at an 8th grade level,which is great but even through the library at school he got his hands on things that caused us to sit down and have talks that were over his maturity level. The parent controls are to protect them while still giving them the autonomy to choose their own books. Even if there was a way to approve their choices via e-mail before they were downloaded would be great. I really don't understand why anyone would be against optional controls they dont have to use.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:02:52 AM PST
Laura B says:
Stephanie - you sound like me!! I had older sisters and read EVERYTHING I could get my hands on. I read "Gone with the wind" in 2rd grade, all my sisters Harlequin romances not long after.....

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:19:31 AM PST
"Mass Reader, if turning off any parental control feature were as simple as turning off the popular highlights feature, then that would be fine with me."

of course if it were that easy, a child could turn it off.

oops, wait a moment...

So it'll have to be extremely involved, probably requiring a phone call to Kindle support, faxing documentation proving you're an adult and have no children in your household, etc. etc.
After all, it's "for the children" so it must be made so that noone can circumvent it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:24:38 AM PST
"I feel like this is being so overblown. The option of having password protection for buying isn't unreasonable. It isn't censorship. It "

We're not talking that, we're talking about an ESRB style rating and having to prove you're of the age required to buy something every time you press that "buy now" button.
Just inputting that once on your device is maybe not too bad, but wouldn't work as the kid would get hold of the device and still see every dirty book his daddy bought.
No, you'd have to submit that documentation to Amazon every single time you want to open a file, and Amazon would then unlock the file for you to use it.
Such documentation could include a scan of your passport and a fingerprint on file with Amazon, to be faxed every time you want to buy or read anything at all.
That's the only way it can work and apeace the control crowd, maybe.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:25:54 AM PST
"People want others to watch over their children, and they believe that others will care for their child as much as they do"

IMO people who want others to watch over their children don't care for their children at all...

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:27:32 AM PST
"However what you can do is unattach your credit card from your Amazon account and then when you want to purchase a book you would have to connect to Amazon over the web and reenter your account information"

Just turn off 1-click, should do the trick as well.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:31:58 AM PST
"How would optional parent controls on kindle ruin anything for you if you didn't turn them on"

they would not, could not, be optional. Anything optional can be turned off. Anything that can be turned off, the kids will figure out how to turn off before their parents do.

And those parents would instantly sue Amazon if they found their kids had turned it off.

"Asking for parent controls is not making Amazon responsible for her children"

It is, as it would mean Amazon would be responsible for keeping a register of ratings for all content and decide based on that what's "appropriate" for the buyer to purchase.

Posted on Dec 8, 2010 4:44:21 AM PST
Ty Johnston says:
Hmm. If parents are paying attention to what their children are reading, there would be no need for a ratings system. And anything rated "adult" or "not for kids" is instantly going to draw kids like rabbits to carrots.

An optional parents control doesn't bother me, but I think it'd be useless. The kids would figure out a way around it by the time the packaging hit the floor.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 8, 2010 4:46:01 AM PST
Oh for God sakes-more controls, more controls - trying to protect your kids, that is always the catch phrase for more regulations etc. True freedom, NO censorship, and your kids are not as fragile as you seem to think!!!
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