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Posted on May 22, 2012 2:38:04 PM PDT
Denis Powell says:
This has been a very interesting thread with lots of good points made, but I'd like to add one other point of view.

I can only read a certain number of books in a week/month/year/lifetime, no matter what they cost. I buy and read, on average, 5 books a week. If next week the 5 books I buy cost $5 less then that's $5 less for Amazon, the publishers and authors as a reduction in price won't lead to me buying more books than I can read. I understand that others will possibly buy more books but would their extra purchases more than compensate for people like me who will simply spend the savings on other things?

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 3:04:14 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 22, 2012 3:06:25 PM PDT
Perry says:
Denis, do you have any sort of budget when buying books? If all books were $16.99, would you still buy 5 books each week? Does the price of a title affect whether you buy it or not? Would lower prices increase the possible choices for your next book? Would the price of the book affect whether you got the book from the library (paper or electronic) rather than purchase? If the only entity making less money with lower ebook prices was Amazon (publishers and authors cut remaining the same), would you still want to pay more for the book? Does it matter to you that Amazon generated nearly $50 Billion in sales and a billion dollars profit last year? Does it bother you that Jeff Bezos net worth is over $18 Billion? Yours is an interesting reasoning for wanting books to be more expensive, I'm just trying to understand.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 3:10:52 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 3:16:30 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
"I would like a fair price for an e-book. A book that is just words."

I don't know about the Kindle Fire, but my K3 came preloaded with not one but two dictionaries, that have all the words I could ever want.

Plus, I've downloaded a lot of free ebooks that have even more words, though almost all are also present in the two dictionaries.

If all you care about is a "fair price" for "just words", then you're looking at the wrong products. You don't have to pay a penny for "just words".

Posted on May 22, 2012 3:38:36 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
I'm currently reading a book that contains words that aren't in the dictionary. Either they are bonus words or I'm being price gouged, I cant decide which it is.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 4:00:13 PM PDT
Nah. They were just being greedy by not giving you the definition of every word...

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 4:11:26 PM PDT
@Perry

At the risk of getting through to you--I'll repeat myself for the fourth or fifth time. Many many many people go into bookstores and buy new books at full retail price. Places like Costco and Walmart only carry the bestsellers. B&N only discounts about 10% of new releases.

I (and lots of others) used to buy 3 or 4 books full price in bookstores every Tuesday. If none of us did that--they'd never get released in paperback a year later for the bargain hunters to enjoy.

Quit judging people based on how much they are willing to spend on books.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 4:14:08 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
"Does it bother you that Jeff Bezos net worth is over $18 Billion?"

You might be happier in your life if you think more about what you have and less about what other people have.

Your choice, of course... but only one person in the whole world will ever have the most stuff at any one time, and it's probably not going to be anyone here.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 4:37:31 PM PDT
Perry says:
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In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 4:50:35 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
"but for him to say Jeff Bezos isn't rich enough, I just wanted clarification."

Oh, sorry. I didn't see that in the post to which you were responding, but I guess it might have been on the other internet.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 7:51:16 PM PDT
K. Rowley says:
"I'm currently reading a book that contains words that aren't in the dictionary."

Maybe you just need to buy a new dictionary... They have been updated abit since Webster published his first one..

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 7:58:19 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
haha ;) I meant the Kindle Fire dictionary.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 3:13:54 AM PDT
Fire didn't even know the word, "pizza."

Posted on May 23, 2012 4:30:47 AM PDT
I made the mistake of commenting on Kindle pricing in a book review and got blasted by the review universe. So I deleted my review and found this place for my comments. First, I am an expat living overseas so the easy order of hard copy books is difficult and very expensive with additional european exise duties added of 20-25%. I use my Kindle extensively and have purchased hundreds (no exageration) of full price books. Second, I am fully aware that the electronic format has pluses and minuses and accept those. My real complaint is that there are a large range of book categories that are not just text oriented such as Sci Fi, Mystery, Classic novels, etc. These are categories that have a higher proportion of graphics. By that I mean graphics that are intense such as maps, scientific charts, etc. The graphics do not lend themselves to full viewing or interpretation. That said, some would say " well you do not have to buy them" . If I want a book that sells for $15.59 hardcover or $12.99 Kindle the modest discount does not justify the loss of 25% of the quality information lost through the limitations of Kindle. Do not get me wrong... I love my Kindle and I love what it does for me, but I challange Amazon to work harder in analyzing the pricing structure for Kindle books where the Kindle format cannot deliver the full hard cover content. Some will say that publishers dictate the pricing, that may be true, but Amazon is now in a position to take a more active role in working with pubishers to ensure that value pricing is considered when content is reduced. Yes I know that is almost impossible, but nothing will change if someone does not start the movement. Please, for those that would like to respond, please do so but please understand the main point is my concern is paying similar hardcopy costs when Kindle content is severely reduced. (please excuse any spelling :))

Posted on May 23, 2012 4:56:08 AM PDT
You're correct that maps and charts don't do well on eInk Kindles, but often those features are quite usable if the book is read using an iPad or K4PC, etc. How could the price be discounted for theoretical loss of content if the loss depends on the device? Amazon actually already addresses that issue by making some graphics-intensive works available ONLY for iPad etc.
(Other than those specific titles, how many books are really that dependent on graphics? You mention SciFi, mysteries, and classic novels--I read mostly mysteries and scifi, and I've never seen a book that was 25% maps and charts. Please name some. )

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 5:11:28 AM PDT
"...the modest discount does not justify the loss of 25% of the quality information lost...

This is an opinion.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 5:13:27 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 23, 2012 5:14:22 AM PDT
Denis Powell says:
Perry, actually I don't have a budget. If I want a book, have the money to buy it and think it's going to be worth the cost then I buy it. All ebooks aren't $16.99 and I find that, on average, they cost me around half the price of the paper versions. Of course some are more, but overall I'm happy. What I'm saying is that if prices come down I'll be spending less as I've never found any difficulty in finding good low priced books.

It's actually to my advantage that Amazon makes a good profit - it makes it less likely that it'll go bankrupt, and how much money Jeff is worth is none of my business. Good luck to him I say. Perhaps my pension fund owns some Amazon stock and it's paid for my 5.2% pension increase this year.

I didn't say that I want books to be more expensive but I actually find reading to be one of the least expensive hobbies. Reading is a cheap pastime. What I am saying is that there's no guarantee that if prices drop sales will increase to more than cover the shortfall. You say they will. I simply don't know, but I can say that it wouldn't result in me buying more books. Different books possibly, but not more.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 5:55:18 AM PDT
Norwenna says:
I agree with Denis; in fact, according to Bufo's statistics, most e-books do not cost even $9.99. Except for a couple of professional handbooks, I've never seen a $16.99 plus book that I wanted (I don't like Stephen King, or for that matter, many bestsellers. The books seem to be written too hurriedly and according to a formula.). Since early times with my kindle, I've mostly bought e-books for $1.99 or less, and none are self-published. I can't stand errors in spelling, grammar, and punctuation, and cliches get on my nerves, too. I get some of the kindle daily deals and every morning I open the thread "Discounted/price-dropped books." I have always managed to get quite good books; maybe the publisher was trying to give me a taste of a series or of an author (and it worked - I like them!). I have many, many books waiting on my kindle to be read, and I still pick up good ones on sale. Some months ago, there was a sale on one of my favorite authors' books for $.99 each. Thirty books! I'm just finishing them up, because I've kept getting good ones in between. Just finished "Midnight Cowboy," for instance - very good and only a couple dollars.

If a book is a "bestseller" it stands to reason that the publishers will charge more, because it is selling so well.

If you start reading those old bestsellers, eventually the new bestsellers will be old and cost less.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:09:43 AM PDT
Perry says:
Denis Powell says: "It's actually to my advantage that Amazon makes a good profit - it makes it less likely that it'll go bankrupt"

Thanks for the reply Denis. Amazon wants to be able to compete on price on ebooks and with the recent settlement, they will start reducing prices on three of the publishers that have settled. This news appears to make many in this thread angry, and they (including you) are justifying why Amazon should keep their prices at current levels even though Amazon believes higher fixed prices aren't in their best interest as a company.

I only bring up Amazon's billion dollar profits and Bezos' $18.4B net worth because you seemed concerned about their livelihood (and still do in your post here). I understand concerns about authors and even of the publishers as they want to stay in business during this transition from paper to digital, but to want Amazon, Google, Apple, and Microsoft/B&N (literally the largest companies in the world) to keep prices artificially high to potentially help your 401k rather than allow them to compete on price, this doesn't make sense to me.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:15:39 AM PDT
Perry says:
Norwenna says: "eventually the new bestsellers will be old and cost less."

This is the part that I am looking forward to, and one aspect that I think the publishers could do a better job at pricing. There are dozens of older catalog bestsellers that I would purchase if the prices were under $5 to $6 range. When I look up an older favorite Stephen King title that I read in the early 80s, and the price is $8.99 (like the Stand or Shining), I pass on it. Same with Crichton, Grisham, Clancy, etc, many of their 20 year old catalog titles are priced at $9.99.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:31:00 AM PDT
Norwenna says:
Hmmm, I didn't realize those old bestsellers were still high. As I said, I don't like Stephen King, and as a matter of fact, I don't like the very authors you named (I've read a few Crichtons and Grishams, and then stopped bothering). Maybe there's something similar about them that rubs me the wrong way?
Anyway, there's also the possibility that even those authors' old bestsellers are still bestsellers at those high prices. I would guess that the prices remain high because people are still buying them at those prices.
Maybe you should try some non-bestsellers? In a capitalist society, it's likely that bestsellers will by their very nature command a higher price. Unless government controls are put in place.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:34:29 AM PDT
"...Unless government controls are put in place..."

What a horrifying thought! I don't want the government deciding what the written word is worth to me.

Posted on May 23, 2012 6:37:38 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
and I'm an expat too with a heft VAT who can seldom find paper books in english, and when I do they're usually 9.99 euros ($12.75 last I checked)

And the only images I've ever seen in Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Mystery Classic fiction are usually confined to just maps. And those are usually 1-5 pages out of about 300.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:53:50 AM PDT
Yes, that's what bothers me: When the E-book costs more than the paperback. I lost a 6 book series, and I want to replace it. If I purchase physical books, I could for the cost of 3 books because they reprinted it in 2 book ominibus editions, but the e-books are only sold in the original format.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:57:33 AM PDT
Ms.Aurora;

This issue has been explained over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Please go back to page 1 of this thread, and you will find the answer as to why some e-books cost the same as (or a bit more than) paperbacks.

It's frustrating to the folks who have been in these forums a long time, and have many conversation about all things books and Kindle every day, to have to KEEP explaining this.
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