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Initial post: Nov 28, 2011 4:14:25 PM PST
Dejavu says:
I am interested in learning what the Kindle Fire sar rating is. I looked over Amazons product user guide (online) but it only states that The Kindle Fire is below the FCC standard.
Amazon then writes that I can look it up on the FCC website (user UN-friendly) with my product ID numbers on the back of the device. I have not purchased a Fire so how can I accomplish this?
This should be a simple question for Amazon to answer and may even have a part in my decision making for a purchase.
If anyone has had better luck than myself in getting this information please let me know.

Thanks!

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 4:26:33 PM PST
J. Mack says:
Not sure if it would help, but I do have a Tri-Field meter - if you have specific questions, I can measure for you. I can't really detect any readings in the microwave range on it - but the tri-field isn't very sensitive for microwaves (However, I CAN get readings just fine on a cellphone, so I know the Kindle Fire is much lower than a cellphone). I can get EMF readings on it, but you get those just from the sound coming out of the speakers.

Best thing if you're concerned is just to not set it directly on your lap. I often just stick a pillow on my lap and use it over that. Just a couple inches cuts any readings down to pretty much nil.

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 4:34:13 PM PST
Ernie says:
What does a wifi transmission of a movie weigh?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 4:45:24 PM PST
Dejavu says:
Hi J.Mack,

Thank you for your response. I know that I can turn off the WiFi signal as well. Especially if I hand it to a child to watch a movie on ect. Mostly, I am just curious and would like to know what I am purchasing.
I'm not sure what a Tri-field meter is and I thank you for going out of your way to try it out. Much appreciated. I hope you are enjoying your Kindle and have a great Holiday. :)

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 5:09:19 PM PST
Ernie says:
An episode of Grey's Anatomy (44 minutes) takes all of 45 seconds. But that is downloading, not transmitting.
It doesn't have an android phones transmit capability, so SAR is nil.

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 5:39:53 PM PST
Dittie says:
I do know that the Fire's chassis is made from recycled crumbly depleted uranium but I figured I'd take my chances anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 5:44:41 PM PST
Cassie Anne says:
I read that too. I'm not too worried...not all mutations are deleterious.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 5:45:39 PM PST
Dittie says:
If something bad happens, there's always a good class action suit, too!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 5:49:48 PM PST
Cassie Anne says:
So no real downside! I'm going to get two!

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 5:56:09 PM PST
Don't wait to buy a Fire if you want to get the product I/D off the back. It's printed in black ink on a black case and as such is illegible.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 6:22:29 PM PST
Les Bell says:
Actually, the way that wi-fi works is that every downloaded packet has an acknowledgement, and they're both preceded by RTS/CTS (request to send / clear to send) frames. So it is radiating. It plays merry hell with unicorn foetuses, but has no discernable effect on anything in the real world.

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 6:46:08 PM PST
Ernie says:
Right, but wifi is far different from cell transmission which is what SAR refers to.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 6:49:25 PM PST
BetHoff says:
And since the Fire is wifi only, what is the point of the question about SAR in the first place?

Posted on Nov 28, 2011 8:07:50 PM PST
J. Mack says:
I just tested it again. The Tri-field meter can measure 3 different things - regular EMF, radio waves (microwaves) and "Electric" (not sure what that one means actually - I'm certainly not an expert). To get a comparison, I went and got my cellphone and made a call and set the meter to 'microwaves'. If I had videotaped it, you would see the needle hopping all over like crazy, all the way up to the top. Then I put the meter right up to my wifi router and had to pretty much be touching the router to get needle movement - but not nearly as much as the cellphone (my cellphone is sar .72, BTW). Then I held it everywhere around the kindle fire and on one part it seemed like the needle was moving just a tiny bit - like hardly at all.

So in comparison to a cellphone, it's nothing. Honestly, I'm more concerned about the regular 'emf' than the wifi. I don't bother to turn off the wifi when my daughter plays it (or the ipad or ipod Touch). I just feel like if they can't prove cellphones are dangerous and this is so much LESS than a cellphone and you're not even holding it up to your head, then I feel save using them. Like I said, I try to use a pillow when I can. Even the case is bringing it a centimeter or two away from the body.

I only have a 'go phone' and rarely talk on my cellphone - so I am one of those people who does "worry" about this stuff (and by worry I mean I make my own educated choice and live with it, not that I'm hiding under the bed)... but I just can't fear something that my meter can't even pick up. I feel like if it's that low of a signal, how can it be harmful. I read an analogy once comparing it to warm water ... no matter how long you hold your hand under warm water, it's not going to burn you. It's not cumulative.

The main reason I got the meter was for regular EMF's. I had read that my sound machine had high EMFs (Marpac) and I wanted to test it myself - I was tired of the invisible 'boogy man'. Turned out the readings are high, but where I have it in my bedroom, it's plenty far enough from the bed so that the distance makes it indetectible even at my feet - so now I know it's no biggie. One surprise, though, was my son's fan (cheap SMALL fan) was shooting out EMF's all the way across his room even to his bed! I was shocked. I got rid of it. I love having the meter because I like to *know* ... not just 'fear' things because someone on youtube told me to, you know? Anyway, I'm NOT an expert, so someone reading this could say I did it all wrong. But I'm guessing most people reading it will just think I'm crazy. ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 10:10:11 PM PST
Dejavu says:
J.Mack,

Thank you again for going to all that trouble. It's so nice that people like you go out of their way to help other people out. I appreciate all of the info you and others sent along. Grabbing a fire tomorrow!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 1, 2012 9:08:09 AM PST
ddornem says:
Mack You are AWESOME! Thanks for helping to shed light on this! I know that I am one of many who will find this very helpful! Happy New year and warm regards!! Stay Healthy!

Posted on Jan 1, 2012 10:21:39 AM PST
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