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How e-book pricing hurts us in more ways than you think


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Initial post: Oct 2, 2013 7:28:37 AM PDT
Erich says:
In so many ways, this article is misleading, hyperbolic, absurd, and generally filled with half-truths.

Go get 'em fellow Kindle forum members! Kill! kill! kill! Feed on their rotting carcasses! Release the hounds! Release the Kraken!

Or just shrug and move on with your life... either way.

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/10/how-ebook-pricing-hurts-us-in-more-ways-than-you-think/

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 7:38:08 AM PDT
ScottBooks says:
It's hard to reason with the unthinking. He apparently doesn't realize that the content of physical books are not his property either.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 7:45:18 AM PDT
KessaJo says:
He couldn't even gets his facts right on lending.

He said

<<Amazon's ebooks can only be read on Kindle devices, lent only once, and only for 14 days (and then only by someone in the Amazon Prime program, which of course costs extra).>>

I had to post a correction. LOL!

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 7:51:01 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 2, 2013 7:51:32 AM PDT
T. Cook says:
Wow. He sounds just like the hundreds of people who complain about incorrect information on the Kindle Forum and then disappear without waiting for an answer(correction) to their questions.

If I didn't see its URL was wired.com I'd've thought this was one of those Yahoo Contributor posts on Yahoo "News"...

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 7:51:20 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 2, 2013 7:52:10 AM PDT
Today I learned that the only place people go to read books are 'libraries'. I always thought 'libraries' were places that don't charge you for coming in, sitting down, and using their WiFi. But they are also the sole source of books! Anything that ever raises the price of anything to libraries, I'm also given to understand, directly causes illiteracy. The only moral price of a good being sold to a library is 'no price', and if you disagree then you must just hate reading, democracy, and the American way. Libraries are just so important! Thank your librarian today!

Also, Amazon ebooks can only be read on Kindle devices. So if you're reading a book with the Cloud Reader from any browser, or with the Kindle App on any mobile device of any brand or OS that's smarter than a toaster, then stop doing that right now, hacker! I've called the police on you!

Also, we need to be able to lend and resell ebooks. I personally would also like to burn ebooks, and to deface them before passing them on. I also would like to be able to 'borrow' an ebook and then perpetually forget to return it to the owner. Why do we need these things? Because if another fellow has to spend $2 to read 1984, if borrowing it from me isn't an option, then he'll probably just give up on reading and take up petty acts of crime and misspelt graffiti.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 7:56:37 AM PDT
Erich says:
It is a little odd to see such a Luddite opinion on a site like Wired. You'd think a Wired writer would understand the difference between paper and ink, and ~information~ (which is really what you're buying in a book, no matter the container it comes in).

On top of it all, he's got many basic facts wrong... also surprising given the source.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 7:57:56 AM PDT
Erich says:
He also completely fails to mention the ability to share one copy on up to six devices registered to the same account at the same time. My family does that... enabling us to buy a single copy of a book and share it between family located in Sydney, Boston, and San Diego. Try that with a paper book!

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:03:24 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:05:30 AM PDT
KessaJo says:
I didn't read any further than what I posted - I figured if he couldn't even get the basics right, I don't need to waste my time reading. Plus, I probably saved my blood pressure from going sky high. LOL~

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:08:01 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
He also said:

"Imagine walking into a library or bookstore and needing three or four pairs of different glasses to read different books manufactured to specific viewing equipment. Or buying a book and then having to arbitrarily destroy it after say, two weeks. That's just nuts. But it's the current situation we're in with ebooks."

Don't you have to return DTBs to the library after 2 (or 4) weeks? The person who "buys" the ebook doesn't have to return it afte 2 weeks.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:10:06 AM PDT
KessaJo says:
OMG! I am so glad that I didn't read any further.

How can someone write an opinion piece & not even have all the facts?

Without all the facts, he's just talking trash. Just sayin...

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 8:10:55 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
I agree with him that it is a shame libraries have to pay such outrageous prices for ebooks. But I have hard time being on his side when he got such basic facts wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:13:36 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 2, 2013 8:13:45 AM PDT
Well, it's mostly true -- it's just not true of Amazon. Probably he's invested in Apple and Google media and just assumed that Amazon was the same way, and felt obliged to mention Amazon in a story about ebooks. After all, in reviews people insistently call the Fire a 'walled garden' even though the only wall in sight is the one that Google put up. He's probably read a few of those reviews.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:13:51 AM PDT
Erich says:
Yeah, I noticed that too... very, very strange comparison. Purchased e-books don't get "destroyed" after two weeks. The license is essentially indefinite. He continually confuses lending with purchasing.

Also, an e-book that gets deleted from a device is in no way similar to destroying a physical book. Nothing is being "arbitrarily destroyed". That's just absurd.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:14:18 AM PDT
And "abomination"? Really?

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 8:17:40 AM PDT
Erich says:
The DVF is active on this thread!

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 8:18:38 AM PDT
He's either invested in Apple and Google media, or he own one or more paper mills.

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 9:06:21 AM PDT
At least the commenters are giving the author heck over his incorrect and misleading statements. There is hope for humanity.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 1:37:41 PM PDT
Thank you so much for posting this.

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 1:52:53 PM PDT
T. Cook says:
Well, they corrected half of the incorrect part of this paragraph...

Unfortunately, such lending in the digital world comes with restrictions. Apple's iBooks can only be read on an Apple appliance. Amazon's [proprietary format] ebooks can only be read on Kindle software, lent only once, and only for 14 days (and then only by someone in the Amazon Prime program, which of course costs extra).

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 3:19:52 PM PDT
KessaJo says:
To correct the whole thing was probably too hard for him. You know, being 100% factual can be hard for some people.

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 3:38:25 PM PDT
I corrected him on his statement that you are leasing e-books. That's absurd. A lease implies an ongoing regular payment for as long as you use the item you're leasing.

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 3:51:19 PM PDT
Just Peachy says:
I got deleted for saying someone on another website was a d-o-o-f-u-s????

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2013 4:15:19 PM PDT
Damazon!

Posted on Oct 2, 2013 4:50:56 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
Books were so much more accessible before all this technology made them available in different formats. Or something like that.
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