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Initial post: Nov 24, 2012 3:27:33 PM PST
I am looking for information on the functionality of either of these devices. I currently have a Kindle keyboard and like it a lot for reading e-books. However, I have a problem with it when I try to read a PDF file, primarily textbooks for school. The font is usually much too small for me to read. Enlarging the screen to the point where it is readable requires shifting the screen focus back and forth for each line of text.

So I am want to upgrade to a devise that can handle the reading of PDF files better. I also want to be able to do some simple work with documents. The problem is trying to get through all the hype about the abilities of the Kindle Fire HD and the Nexus 7. I expect that they are comparable when it comes to reading e-books, play music, watching movies, etc. I have heard that you can install some Google aps on the Kindle Fire, but don't know what ones or how well they run. Besides a basic word processor like Open Office I want to be able to have a calendar, access my email and surf the web. A nice plus would be to be able to play not only solitaire and mahjong, but Diablo too. Though I don't think that is do able.

Posted on Nov 24, 2012 3:55:37 PM PST
jsh1120 says:
KF4TAP,

Each device has its strengths. The N7 will give you more options in terms of pdf reader apps but the KFHD will give you a better, more readable screen. Otherwise, the functionality you cite is available on both devices.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2012 4:07:59 PM PST
Thanks for the input.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2012 4:13:18 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
They are both decent devices. You need to figure out what is important to you. I personally use a lot of Google features so I did not go with the Fire. If you use a lot of the Google services then you will probably want a full Android tablet like the Nexus. If you pretty much just want to use what Amazon has to offer then the Fire would be your best bet.

Posted on Nov 25, 2012 12:20:54 AM PST
D.L.C says:
honestly, reading textbooks on a 7" screen is going to be terrible regardless the brand of tablet. Look at the 8.9" KF, the 9" Nook HD+, the Nexus 10 or the iPad 3/4.

Few people can do real work on a 7" tablet. Your primary task is going to suck on a 7" no matter who you buy it from. Go bigger and you're experience will be far better. I have a sinking feeling you're going to get a 7", realize just how much reading textbooks on it sucks and stop using it for that and subsequently waste the money.

Posted on Nov 25, 2012 12:36:31 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 25, 2012 12:37:33 AM PST
Bixillarla says:
I went with the Nexus 7 and love it. It will do almost everyhting the Fire will, you won't get the features that are unique to the Fire such as the text to speech, immersion reading, KOLL, prime videos, etc.

The Nexus has some feature the Fire doesn't such as GPS and the Google maps that work anywhere.

I also prefer having the latest Android Jellybean OS, you also get updates first as it is a Google tablet. :)

Look at comparison charts between the Fire and the Nexus and figure out which features are important to you, they are both good devices.

Posted on Nov 25, 2012 3:31:01 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 25, 2012 3:44:06 AM PST
I agree completely with DLC. I love my Nexus 7 but would hate it if I had to read many pdf's. Because I'm an android fan, my preference would be the Nexus 10 but any of the large screen tablets will do a much better job displaying pdf's than will a 7" tablet.

Endgadget has done a pretty good, balanced review of the Nexus 10: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-10-review/ .

Posted on Dec 8, 2012 5:02:52 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 8, 2012 5:03:57 PM PST
Getting a fire over a nexus would just be an awful decision. Amazon just takes the same but older version of the android os and strips it of all its features and adds ads. On top of that there is less content available. Come on people

Posted on Dec 27, 2012 9:25:41 PM PST
N. Abbate says:
I think the Nexus 7 is more helpful and the KFHD is.... well, I really don't know how to say. They are intelligent in different ways. Nexus 7 is better for searching. Well, it's like saying which kid you love most because I got both for Christmas this year.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2013 10:46:12 AM PST
Unix Pimp says:
Unless you are blind as a bat and buy large print books, a 7" tablet is a better choice for reading books. It is only slightly larger than a mass market paperback book, and you can hold it in one hand.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 12, 2013 2:21:05 PM PST
Cotton Socks says:
Adam: What Planet did you just come in from? "Less content," than Amazon? Are you kidding me? 32,000 movie on Amazon and er, how many from Google?

Try and keep up with the facts if you want to play with the grown ups.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 12, 2013 2:31:29 PM PST
Bixillarla says:
There are plenty of sources for vidoes without using Google or Amazon such as Netflix, Hulu, Xfiniity, etc.

If you want a full fledged up to date Android device and not a crippled older version of Android then the Nexus is the way to go.

I myself decided I wanted the full fledged up to date Android system with the Google Play Store and went with the Nexus 7. I can read my Kindle books just fine on it.

You have to weigh what is important to you and decide which is best for you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2013 9:13:16 AM PST
Cotton Socks says:
>> plenty of sources for vidoes without using Google or Amazon such as Netflix, Hulu, Xfiniity, etc.

Yup, and all available and more, on the Fire using Apps from the Amazon App-Store.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dmobile-apps&field-keywords=hulu

Not sure where you get the idea that the Fire is "crippled." Mine is working fine for a cripple. If you have buyer's remorse after getting the Nexus, then try selling it and come back and get a Fire HD. :)

You WILL be impressed with the sound it is way better than ANY tablet currently on the market. Suffice to say, the pixel density of the Fire HD means the viewing is superb too.

Posted on Jan 20, 2013 11:12:01 AM PST
AmazonGirl says:
KF,
It's been a while, so you probably already have your Kindle Fire (and loving it I hope!!). I wanted to pass along an easy solution for making your pdf files easily readable on the Kindle. I did this for some of my own school pdf files, and it was wonderful!! Best to you!

You'll need to download MobiPocket Creator, and then follow the instructions below.
http://www.mobipocket.com/en/downloadsoft/productdetailscreator.asp

How to Convert PDF to .PRC file on Kindle, which makes for much easier reading.
1) Open Mobipocket Creator
2) Under Import From Existing File, chose Adobe PDF
3) Click on Browse, choose your file, and click Import.
*This screen also shows the path of where you new file will be created.
4) Click Build, choose your options, and then click build again.
5) Open up the folder, and drag the .PRC file to the documents folder of your Kindle (be sure to eject your Kindle before unplugging from your computer).

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 20, 2013 11:20:36 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2013 3:59:03 PM PST
For the sake of this conversation, it doesn't matter how many Amazon has, just that it has more. It doesn't.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2013 7:26:09 PM PST
Not exactly true my friend. My wife has the kindle HD and I have the Nexus 7 and with Firefox beta I get to use my prime subscription and everything. You can download the audible app and whatever else you feel you need.

Posted on Feb 9, 2013 8:49:54 AM PST
J. Burgett says:
I have a Kindle Fire HD - the small 7" one. I also have a "normal" Kindle ereader. Both are fine for reading books and I am a becoming a big fan of Audible audio books. (Text to speech is nice, and I use it frequently, but some of the real narrators are outstanding) The Kindle Fire HD plays audio loud enough that I can listen to it in the shower and car. (to be fair, in the car I could use a cable and car's stereo, but it is easier to toss in on the dash) If I had it do do all over, would I have gone with the Nexus? Probably not. Every one in a while I come across an application which is published on Google's store, but not Amazon's store. My main use of the tablet is for music and books. Occasionally a movie. For that, the Kindle is great. As for missing apps, the only apps I have side loaded is the VLC beta, FireFox beta and APG (privacy plugin for K-9 email). I did try Opera and Dolphin, but I liked Silk better so I dumped them. To me the choice is Kindle: TTS and good sound versus Nexus: choice of keyboards, real Google Apps (gmail, rss reader, maps) and non-beta versions of a couple of my favorite apps. I assume that both could show me my books (kindle and audible) and play my collection of mp3s. The other real factor for me is that I have had good experiences dealing with Amazon, but have no history with Google's store. I assume that they have good customer service also.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2013 10:03:47 AM PST
B. Marks says:
The Nexus 7 is a very flexible general purpose tablet. The Fire HD is geared to consuming Amazon content. There's a lot of overlap. You can do some but not all Amazon stuff with the Nexus. You can do a lot of the stuff on the Fire that you can do on the Nexus, but not all. For the things you've mentioned Probably the Nexus is the better choice but either will work. You can get all the apps you want on either but there are more choices on the Nexus. You can't watch Amazon videos on the Nexus.

I think, though, that you'll find you have the same problems with PDF files on these tablets that you have on the Kindle. What you need for them is a larger screen. Some PDF files are able to flow the text to adjust for the page but many aren't. I suspect that textbooks can't. If they can't flow you'll have essentially the same size screen and the same problem with having to move the page around. The Nexus might help a little by making that easier with it's faster CPU but the problem will still be an irritation.

You might want to consider a 10" tablet. That still won't fix the problem in some cases but there'll be far less moving of pages and in many cases you'll be able to view the page full screen just fine.

Barry

Posted on Feb 9, 2013 9:51:57 PM PST
A. Boyd says:
If your biggest concern is readability of pdf files on a Kindle Fire or any other tablet you can easily get Calibre and convert the pdf file to a .mobi file (for Kindle) or .epub file (for Aldiko if on a different Android tablet). You can also have the Kindle app on an Android device and still load a mobi file onto it. I wouldn't decide on a tablet based on its ability to read a pdf such as a text book pdf. I have converted text book pdf's for college before into .mobi format for my Kindle app and it's worked great. :)

Posted on Feb 27, 2013 1:43:32 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 27, 2013 1:45:21 PM PST
I own the Kindle Fire 2 (non-HD), and here are some of the factors that each tablet has that the other doesn't:

Kindle Fire 2 or HD: movie streaming from amazon prime, text-to-speech for books (which I use a lot), kindle lending library for books, the ability to buy the audible audio book at a reduced price when purchasing the ebook and have the two automatically synced for when you want to switch between reading and listening.

Oh, and I have never had a problem reading pdfs on my Kindle Fire 7". I accept the fact that I will read in landscape mode and scroll down to read the next section. Also, Mantano reader is not only a good pdf reader, but it also enables you to read epub books from the Google Play store (as long as you type in your adobe digital editions password for DRM reasons.

Nexus 7: less restricted access to android and google apps (which CAN be sideloaded; that has not been mentioned), GPS, Google Voice Search, Google Now.

Aside from these, both tablets seem quite equivalent to me. And as others have mentioned, it largely depends on what you want the tablet for. For me, I don't love the much more restricted ecosystem of Amazon, but don't miss it as much as I thought (both because the selection that amazon DOES have is good, and because you can sideload most Play apps). And what I like about the Fire is (a) really good amazon integration, (b) text-to-speech for kindle books, and (c) as a prime member, the 'free' stuff like movie streaming and book lending library.

Posted on Mar 3, 2013 8:11:00 PM PST
Gutsy says:
If you want to read free or library ebooks, don't buy the Kindle Fire. Amazon has locked down the Fire to make it hard to get any content to it you didn't buy from Amazon. It is a huge step back in freedom from the Kindle 3.

Even Apple has not gone so far as Amazon in locking down their devices. You can easily download and read ebooks on Apple devices using only the standard apps.

You can get free ebooks to the Fire too, but the process is so cumbersome that it isn't worth the trouble given the alternative of buying a Nexus 7 or a Nook HD, both of which handle free ebooks with ease.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2013 8:33:56 PM PST
Old Rocker says:
Bull hockey.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2013 9:49:44 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 3, 2013 9:50:38 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Why are you lying to people? It is easy to use other app stores on the Fire and to also get library books. Nothing cumbersome at all. You must be thinking of the Nook being locked down....

Posted on Mar 7, 2013 7:22:17 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 7, 2013 7:23:41 AM PST
M. Hall says:
I think what Adam and Gutsy are trying to say is that Amazon limits you to their app store, so you don't have full access to the Google play store. With the Nexus 7 you have full access to the Google play store, plus you can still use the kindle app to read your amazon books + you could use the nook app to read BN books.

PLus the Nexus has GPS and google maps.

Since they are the same price wouldn't you want a device that does more?? Am I missing something?
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