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Initial post: Jan 28, 2014 4:00:17 PM PST
gmkiz says:
Has anything come form the lawsuit regarding pricing of ebooks? Thought there was a settlement but have heard nothing of "rebates" for purchases?

Posted on Jan 28, 2014 4:13:15 PM PST
Mselaineous says:
gmkiz, here's a link to the official lawsuit website, which - as far as I know - contains the latest info: https://ebooksagsettlements.com

Posted on Jan 28, 2014 4:39:47 PM PST
Apple has filed for a stay pending their appeal of the verdict. The stay was granted on Dec. 30. Apple is also contesting the court ordered anti-trust monitor and attempting to have him declared incompetent while denying every request from the monitor to interview Apple executives. Apologies if I don't have all the legal terms correct.

If they can stretch this out another year, the court order verdict against the publishers and Apple to prevent them from entering into agency model verdicts will have expired.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 28, 2014 5:09:43 PM PST
Mselaineous says:
Old Rocker, thanks so much for this new-to-me info! Would you kindly share your source for it so that I can, in future, be as well-informed as you so clearly are?

Posted on Jan 28, 2014 5:21:14 PM PST
I erred when I said the stay was granted. A filing by the DOJ on Jan 24 asks the court to deny the stay.

http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f303100/303185.pdf

Pages 6 and 7 of the PDF are especially damning of Apple.

This is the DOJ page for the action.

http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/applebooks.html

There is no summary, so you have to sort through all the documents.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 28, 2014 5:24:26 PM PST
Mselaineous says:
Old Rocker -
My thanks to you again!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 11:15:45 AM PST
According to the claims administrator's office (link is https://ebooksagsettlements.com/ContactInformation.aspx ), who I called 30 minutes ago, the expected credits will be issued to Amazon in April or May of this year. The phone number to the claims administrative office is (866) 621-4153, and their was no hold time until I got a person.

Other helpful links:

All the publishers and their subsidiaries that are included in paying into the settlement: https://ebooksagsettlements.com/Portals/0/Documents/Alpha%20Publisher%20Imprint%20and%20Division%20List.pdf

The credit amounts per eligible e-book for eligible customers from all states, except Minnesota (copied from the ebooks settlement site)
New York Times bestsellers: $3.06 per E-book. These include titles that were New York Times bestsellers at any time, irrespective of when you purchased the E-book.
Non-New York Times bestsellers: $.73 per E-book. These E-books include any titles that were not New York Times bestsellers.
***** Minnesota's AG filed separately (if I recall correctly and they do get slightly higher amounts, but there are some other rules involved. If you are a customer that lives in MN check out this link for information: https://mn.ebooksagsettlements.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx

Dates of purchase for e-books eligible for a credit are April 1, 2010 through May 21, 2012.

If you have other companies you purchased e-books through here one more helpful link :https://ebooksagsettlements.com/RetailerAccountInformation.aspx

Amazon's link is not very helpful, but I will put it up here anyway: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=201046060

Again, according to the actual Claims Administrator which is Rust Consulting, Inc at (866) 621-4153; the credit to Amazon will be issued in April or May of 2014 (according to the customer service rep. I spoke to there.)

I hope this info helps!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 11:38:17 AM PST
Mselaineous says:
Jeanine, the info you posted helps a LOT . . . and I am (I'm sure) not the only person who thanks you for it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 11:50:21 AM PST
That is a separate case. The ones involving the publishers were settled in 2012. Originally 3 of the 5 who were sued settled and the funds were to be sent out last year. Prior to the funds going out the other 2 publishers settled and everyone involved agreed to let the 2 settlements combine into one. This delayed the funds going out until sometime in the 1st 1/2 of this year.

Apple didn't settle so their part of the lawsuit broke off into a separate full blown case. The outcome of their case has no bearing on the settlement.

Yes.. it's all a bit confusing.. 1 case broke into 2. One of them going all the way to trial. The other partially settled and everyone got notices for that part. Then the other part of that second one settled and then combined into the original settlement delaying it. Gotta love lawsuits. So much fun.</sarcasm>

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 4:07:19 PM PST
Well, I certainly get confused about it. The documents on the DOJ site lead me to believe that both actions are covered in that DOJ case, but I'm not a lawyer and it all just makes my brain hurt.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 4:08:01 PM PST
Great info. Thank you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 4:15:30 PM PST
Mselaineous says:
Thank you for this clarification, Thomas! I had heard the funds would be in happy Kindlers' accounts or mailboxes early this year. Now it seems that may still be true, though perhaps NOT quite as early as some February predictions had said.

Posted on Jan 29, 2014 6:13:03 PM PST
gmkiz says:
Thanks to all for the info. Kept hearing different things so this clarifies somewhat.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 29, 2014 7:47:06 PM PST
Many thanks, Jeanine!

Posted on Jan 30, 2014 5:53:39 AM PST
Thanks for the info. I doubt that the lawyers have had to wait for their share.

Posted on Jan 30, 2014 6:44:53 AM PST
Angie49 says:
It has been my experience (both professional and personal) that class action settlements happen when they happen. Dates move all the time and they can literally take years to resolve, even after a court order has been made for the money to be distributed. So don't hold your breath, just be glad when you do eventually see something.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 6:45:56 AM PST
I decided long ago that I'm going to forget all about this issue, and when/if a credit shows up, WOOHOO!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 6:47:13 AM PST
Same here.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 7:50:08 AM PST
A. Dietz says:
I think most people asking questions about this think they are going to get back far more than they actually are.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 7:50:50 AM PST
Oh, I think you can bet on that..............

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 7:58:50 AM PST
 Ann says:
Yep. Be prepared for the yelling when the anticipated big payout turns out to be a whopping $2.69.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 8:00:25 AM PST
And the publishers, it's only fair, should reduce their prices to match whatever amount each customer receives. How can we be expected to buy books with such a paltry amount?

Posted on Jan 30, 2014 8:00:50 AM PST
M42 says:
$2.69 is rather optimistic. Remove the two and you'll be much closer to what the payout is going to be. And on top of that, it will come in the form of a credit that's only good against future book purchases.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 30, 2014 8:04:20 AM PST
I have no problem with the last part, since that's what I'd probably do with it anyway.

Hmmmmmm, money I can only spend on books................yeah, I'm ok with that.

Posted on Jan 30, 2014 8:13:47 AM PST
Greg says:
Thank you so much for this update. I was digging around on this this morning. Kinda frustrating how the date for pay out keeps moving further out though :(
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