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Initial post: Aug 1, 2014 5:28:00 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
I have not signed up for KU but have Prime. Today I looked closely at the screen for borrowing from Prime KOLL.

On the Fire, when I look at the list of KOLL books, they all have the Prime logo next to the star rating. Many say "kindleunlimited" under the price. But this one doesn't Rain Girl

On the paperwhite, the list shows most with kindleunlimited logo except "Rain Girl" shows the Prime logo.

I looked at the book One Lavender Ribbon

On the Fire HD, I see

Print List Price $12.95
Kindle Price $4.99
Prime Members $0.00
Kindle unlimited- Read unlimited books (get started)
Then buttons that say "Buy for $4.99" and "Borrow For Free". Under the "Borrow For Free" button is "Prime members only"

On my Paperwhite I see the same verbiage but the buttons say "Read for Free" and "Buy for $4.99". Also, under the author's name is the star rating and the Prime logo.

For anyone who has signed up for Kindle Unlimited, what are you seeing?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 5:30:59 AM PDT
Not all books that are in KOLL are in KU and vice-versa. Rain Girl appears to be in KOLL but not KU. One Lavender Ribbon may be in KU and not KOLL. There's nothing to get excited about with this.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 5:32:57 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
Yes, I know that Bruce.

There has been a lot of confusion of how the KOLL books show up after the introduction of KU. The point of this post is to explain how it will look on different Kindles.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 5:34:54 AM PDT
I don't have KU, but I do notice something interesting for Rain Girl *here* online, using Chrome.

Up until yesterday, when I was searching for KOLL books (for the numerous threads about KU), I saw the Prime logo next to the price, then the KU thingy under it.

You're right--Rain Girl doesn't have the KU at all, but what I notice is that it's not just the Prime banner next to the price ticket anymore -- NOW I see the Prime logo ~underneath~ the price like a new paragraph, with "With your Prime membership, you can borrow this book for free on your Kindle device."

Now, Lavender Ribbon looks exactly as it has all week. Red price, Prime logo, KU paragraph below.

So maybe the whole shebang is getting a new look ... eventually... ?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 5:37:26 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
Interesting that it is still changing. Maybe tons of calls to CS is prompting them to clarify things quickly.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 5:40:50 AM PDT
What will further confound folks is that let's say today Rain Girl is KOLL, but by Monday it's not for whatever reason. Someone had it on their WL, but now it's not available.

Then maybe it goes into KU, and the same Prime member sees that later and goes, "WTH?!?"

Posted on Aug 1, 2014 5:49:47 AM PDT
Beth says:
Also interesting is that if I search Rain Girl on my computer (in the kindle store) the first four results on the list page say borrow free from Prime right on the list page. The rest of the list just says KU and you need to open to the product page to see that prime is also a choice.

I vaguely think Rain Girl and the other 3 might have been last months Kindle First books. Inarmorata by Megan Chance just sounds very familiar. I did not take a kindle first book last month so can not check this out.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 5:51:16 AM PDT
Inamorata definitely was; I snagged it through Kindle First, and I think you might be right about Rain Girl, too.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 6:13:55 AM PDT
Mary Jane says:
I looked at Rain Girl and it shows that I bought it. It was a Kindle First book. So was One Lavender Ribbon.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 6:27:50 AM PDT
Sarida says:
Yes, Rain Girl was a Kindle First Book for July, because I got it :)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 6:36:43 AM PDT
Beth says:
So we still are seeing that the only books that are prime only are the kindle first books that are released to Prime members before they are officially released.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 7:07:03 AM PDT
Charlie Fox says:
I'm signed up for KU

for One Lavender Ribbon from my HDX KOLL listing, I only see Read for Free (with Kindle Unlimited) under the orange bar.

Nothing that seems to indicate that I could make it my Prime borrow for August

Posted on Aug 1, 2014 7:11:21 AM PDT
Sarida says:

On my Firefox browser I see a book that says "Prime" with a check mark by it.

On my Kindle Basic, I searched out that book and it says "Borrow for Free."

On my KT, it says "Read for Free."

I go to the store front in both the KT and KB and now "Kindle First" is listed along with "Kindle Unlimited."

In fact, on the KB, the drop down menu actually HAS "Kindle Unlimited" as a choice.

Here is an interesting thing:

"Note: Kindle Unlimited subscribers can access Kindle First books for free when they are published (one month after they are available in the Kindle First program). Learn more about Kindle Unlimited."

So Kindle First REMAINS a Prime perk, not a KU perk.

Posted on Aug 1, 2014 7:14:51 AM PDT
Sarida says:
Kindle First books are:

The Paper Magician (The Paper Magician Series)
Portrait of a Girl
A Cold and Broken Hallelujah (Long Beach Homicide)
Crazy for Her

Posted on Aug 1, 2014 7:21:26 AM PDT
Sarida says:
AND, remember (for the newbies) that you can actually "purchase" your Kindle First book from your computer as well as access it with a non-Amazon device (iPad, iPhone, etc.)

So on August 1, we have three things going on:

1. Kindle Unlimited
3. Kindle First

All which are handled differently on different devices with different instructions.

Enjoy :)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 8:01:32 AM PDT
I did it the same way I've done it every 1st of the month since KOLL and First began. I snagged my First using Silk, then checked my "Prime to Borrow" Wish List. Went to my PW and the button showed "Borrow for Free" (not Read for Free).

Lemon squeezy.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2014 8:22:08 AM PDT
Sarida says:
Well yeah, but you are smarter than the average bear.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 8:37:42 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 29, 2014 8:39:53 AM PDT
Liz R says:
As of August 29th that is STILL what I see from my Paperwhite. I have 10 books out from KU, figuring that would make the system flip to KOLL (maybe) when I tried to borrow one more from the ones marked Kindle Unlimited, since I couldn't find any with Prime logo on my Paperwhite. But it doesn't let me do it, just suggests I return a book before trying to borrow another. I want my August borrow from KOLL and can't make it happen!!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 8:58:17 AM PDT
Last I heard (read) the geeks knew it was an issue, but never dreamed people would insist on that 11th book. (I'm not saying you shouldn't want it--I'm just saying I think they didn't figure on that *one* borrow mattering to someone who went ahead with KU.)

I have read (heard) any update to that glitch, only that they were working on it.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 9:45:51 AM PDT
Liz R says:
Thank you for that info. At least I know I'm not making this up now! I only got confused when I had already borrowed (on a laptop) 3 books under KU early in August, and then later on thought something like "oh I need to make my August KOLL borrow or I'll miss it" . And I had finished reading my July borrow, so I returned it right then and there whil e I was still on my laptop. then I thought of one I had wanted to borrow next on the KOLL plan so I fired up the WiFi on the Kindle and went to get it. And that's when I ran into the not-really-problem problem as the geeks would see it, I guess. Namely, on the paperwhite I borrowed the book but I got it as "read for free" and it became my 4th KU borrow, not my August KOLL borrow. So of course then I got interested in trying to figure out how to get my KOLL book...

And I'm still interested, because one could conceivably have 10 books out from KU that are more like cookbooks or tech ref books or whatever, and want something from KOLL that's more like a beach read, right?

I grant you with the current range of KU I might be running out of pressing need to have this problem solved any time very soon... but thanks again for letting me know that there really is the issue I thought there was with this situation! Ciao.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 9:54:02 AM PDT
KessaJo says:
but never dreamed people would insist on that 11th book.
Well, you know when you can have 10 eBooks to borrow at 1 time, having to read one whole eBook, before getting another one is just too much to ask of people.

Being able to read 30, 40, 50, 100, 200, eBooks in a month is just not goo enough, they have to have 31, 41, 51, 101 or 201.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 10:01:28 AM PDT
Liz R says:
LOL point taken but as I said, I was using my KOLL borrows to pick beach reads, and figure once I make my way through re-reads of the few old classics I've rounded up under KU offerings, I'd revert to picking cookbooks and tech ref books from KU and stick to beach reads as my KOLL borrows. So I sort of plan on having a rather static collection of KU borrows. That 11th book becomes my go-to when I'm tired of cooking and working!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 10:04:38 AM PDT
KessaJo says:
I was just joking with Folina - pay me no mind. If people want their 11th borrow a month, it affects me in no way. LOL! =)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2014 10:11:50 AM PDT
KessaJo says:
I'd revert to picking cookbooks
I'm plant-based/vegan (for health reasons) & I love cookbooks, but after awhile, I lost track of which book had what favs in it.

I now take my favs & put them on & then send the recipes to my Kindle & tablet.

I love it, because you decide on the Table of Contents - it's what the Categories are on Kindle Cooking, but when you send it to your Kindle, you have a click-able ToC.

When you add more recipes, you send it again & it sends everything - it's like my very own Cookbook with only my favorite recipes in it. I just delete the old one when I send a new one to my Kindle.

Not that you would be interested, I just really like it. =)
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