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Initial post: Dec 27, 2013 2:26:51 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2013 2:27:49 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 2:32:33 PM PST
The new device has to index every word of every book. Sending a bulk download would crash it. You can put all the books on it, but there is no real need to do every single one in a single action.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 2:44:43 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 2:49:07 PM PST
Just Peachy says:
Why do you need every book on the device at one time?

Posted on Dec 27, 2013 2:49:21 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2013 2:49:39 PM PST
why do you want to copy ALL your books to your Kindle? just download as many as you'll need for current reading and leave the rest in the cloud.
thats really the way you're supposed to use it.

GMTA

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 2:51:08 PM PST
CBRetriever says:
it took me less than an hour to do a few hundred books by tapping every book on a page, paging forward, repeating, etc. I did it while watching tv and it was painless.

Posted on Dec 27, 2013 3:02:18 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 3:30:56 PM PST
KessaJo says:
Why? Because it's my content, bought and paid for, and that's my preference.
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Then that is your choice. So, for now the rules are one at a time & not the way you want to do it.

If you don't like it, don't get another ereader or just buy paper books.

When/if Amazon makes it so that you can load eBooks the way you want, then you can get another ereader.

You've got choices, use them.

Posted on Dec 27, 2013 3:42:26 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 3:44:46 PM PST
Just Peachy says:
Amazon doesn't normally read these forums.Email them at kindle-feedback@amazon.com

Posted on Dec 27, 2013 3:46:16 PM PST
Thank you Peachy. I'll do that.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:06:34 PM PST
Actually we have other choices (after all, that's the point of the word "choice" - that there's more than one option). We can:
1) express a different viewpoint to yours
2) express our opinion of your viewpoint
3) discuss your viewpoint and/or the ramifications of implementing it

If you simply want to offer your opinion to Amazon, then a "customer discussion forum" is not the place to do so. A "customer discussion forum" is for customers to have discussions; if you post in one you should expect a discussion, by customers.

Posted on Dec 27, 2013 4:15:39 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2013 4:18:04 PM PST
I don't mind the discussion. I just don't think that I'm asking anything that is either unreasonable, out of line, or "against the rules". I have sent the request to Amazon, as well as talking with them on the phone earlier today. We can't be sure how many people feel as we do unless we give them a chance to weigh in, on boards such as this, without making them feel like they've somehow expressed ungratefulness, or are deigning to question Amazon inappropriately. I intended no offense to anyone, and certainly not Amazon, and I stand by my opinion that more than just li'l ole me might find this functionality useful. I've spent more money than most, probably, on my content and I think that gives me the freedom to ask for something that would make my use and maintenance of that content easier. It doesn't mean I think they are obligated to do so, but it can't hurt to ask.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:20:15 PM PST
Ok, I can see how that might be workable. It isn't something I'd do, but I guess some people (other than you, that is) would go for it. We do see complaints about how long it takes, but most of them do say they want it all done at once. Yours is the first post I've seen with a reasonable solution.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:23:24 PM PST
KessaJo says:
My choice is to ask Amazon to increase the functionality,
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Then ask Amazon. Why whine about it on the Internet?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:24:03 PM PST
KessaJo says:
Yes. This.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:29:28 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Not going to happen because of the indexing issue. Complain all you want it won't help. Either get used to it or try a different company.

Posted on Dec 27, 2013 4:30:41 PM PST
Nobody is whining. It's a valid request. If you don't think so, that's your perogative. Mine is to ask it. I don't think any less of you for disagreeing. You're free to think less of me if you like.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:34:08 PM PST
The indexing is not an issue. The functionality could include time for the books to be copied and indexed correctly. As it stands now I can select more than one and they concurrently move to the device, and the indexing is accomplished correctly. It just has to be done interactively now, and that time could be better spent.

Nobody is complaining, at least that wasn't my intent. If I phrased it as such it was unintentional. It is a request/suggestion, fwiw.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:49:29 PM PST
Actually you did appear to think less of people for disagreeing. Your words were: "since when is it wrong or bad to ask...Your choice is to ignore the request if it somehow offends you."

Your inference that people who disagreed with you or found objections to your suggestion were feeling offended, or calling you wrong/bad, assumed a level of negativity towards you that is "thinking less" of them.

By the way, it would help a lot if you clicked on "reply to this post" when you're replying, so that it's easier to figure out who and what you're responding to.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 4:53:55 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
So tell us, how long does it take to index a book? Amazon isn't going to monitor each device to see if it still indexing. Some books take a few minutes to index and some take several hours. I have one book that took at least 13 hours to index.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 5:19:33 PM PST
I did appear that way, didn't I? What it all boils down to is that I'm a customer just like the rest of you. Beyond that we're all different. If I have a request or suggestion that I feel will help me to better use my content I'll ask it. If it isn't agreeable to some to hear it, or they disagree with it on principle, so be it. If there are those that would not find it useful, I'm ok with that too.

There are those on this forum who will brook nothing that they view as being critical of Amazon's business choices. Of course the same phenomena occurs in defense of other companies and products, such as Apple and MS, or Playstation vs. Xbox for example.

Anyway, now I know that Amazon won't see my questions/suggestions here and have taken steps to pose them where they will be seen. Thank you again Peachy for your useful suggestion. And to everyone else for the discussion.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 5:25:25 PM PST
If I select 5 books to download simultaneously, whether they actually come down that way or sequentially, they do. And the indexing is done correctly. So if we can keep the process going continuously, whether it be sequentially or concurrently, by tapping on each book, why would it not be possible to have an option that says bring them all down? If it means that the device will be unusable during that time it would be no different than if I sat with it in my lap and continued to select the books manually until all were copied. Would it?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 7:04:54 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2013 7:05:53 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
I can't explain it any better for you. I know in the past we have had multiple threads about peoples batteries going dead and their Kindles acting up after a lot of books were downloaded. When the Kindle gets overwhelmed with too many books at one time the books will get stuck and have to be removed and downloaded again to fix it. Oh well, no problem. Amazon is watching out for you and will not change the system.

Even manually if you add too many books there will be problems. But keep on doing it if you want just don't ask for help since you were warned.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2013 7:58:53 PM PST
The difference is that if you're doing it manually you can take a break if a) the battery level gets low, or b) the kindle starts responding very slowly (indicating it's trying to handle too much at once). An automatic "download all" command wouldn't do that.
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