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Initial post: Jun 18, 2014 11:33:55 AM PDT
Rebecca says:
Although I've bought several Kindle Fire HDx's for gifts for others, I personally still use the 1st Generation Kindle Fire that I bought when they first came out years ago because it still works great and holds a good battery charge. I was excited when I saw the recent announcement about the addition of Prime Music, but then noticed it only mentioned the Fire HD and the Fire HDx. After a little more searching, I found a notice on Amazon that says they are working hard to deliver an over-the-air update for the 2nd Generation Kindle Fire, but it still doesn't mention the 1st Generation Kindle Fire. Anyone know if the 1st Generation Kindle Fire is going to eventually be supported? Thanks!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2014 11:36:17 AM PDT
No one here will know. It is highly possible that the first gen Fire doesn't have the proper firmware or hardware to support it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2014 12:01:55 PM PDT
You could always "wait and see" ... or you could take the route I chose last year - I located the N2Aos folks, spend a small amount of money and turned my 1st Gen KF into an Android device. Last month a spent a small amount and it is now a KitKat (4.4.2) level Android. As such, the Amazon Music player can be downloaded. Note that I did have to install Dolphin and Flash to get access to Prime streaming of movies. Actually most of my movie streaming is done either on my KF 8.9 (also the first generation of that device) - which got a small update last week and the Music support appeared ...

So, maybe give it a bit more time.

Posted on Jun 18, 2014 10:52:47 PM PDT
LadyHawke says:
It just seems to me if the KF #1 can stream video, play and download mp3 files, that it is capable of streaming music. It seems like an app could handle inconsistencies in file formats or OS. If I can stream Prime music on my phone, my KF #1 should be able to do the same via an app.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2014 10:54:55 PM PDT
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LadyHawke says:
Wow, cicsos2, I wish I knew what you said in your post! It's a bit over my head....

EDIT: Ok, I Googled N2Aos and I'm a little better informed. Do you like the new version of your Fire?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2014 12:31:29 AM PDT
It's now not a Fire. It's a rooted vanilla Android tablet.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2014 4:04:40 AM PDT
I did n2aOS to both of my 2012 Fire HD tablets. We love them! We haven't bothered with trying to stream Amazon movies. We have multiple Roku devices and big TVs for that.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2014 4:38:26 AM PDT
N. Podaci says:
This banner is on N2Aos site (misspelled words are theirs, not mine!):

As of June 17th Amazon has updated Kindle Fires causing a block to our software being installed. We have temporarely removed N2Aos from sale.
A new version will be released soon, we appologise for any inconvenience caused.

Posted on Jun 19, 2014 5:34:00 AM PDT
I see....might have something to do with the update that rolled out for Prime Music. I'm glad ours are already converted. I detest the Fire interface. Although we do have 1 Fire HD in the house that runs stock, and that is the newest 2013 Fire HD. I noticed last night that it finally got the Prime Music update, so I plan to check that out today!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2014 9:28:17 AM PDT
I love my "rooted vanilla Android tablet that is running ver 4.4.2 ... and has access to the Verizon Appstore and Google Playstore and 1Mobile, etc ... and, if I do have a technical problem with the sofeware, they have a forum that is monitored and answered by the developers as well as a live chat option....

Granted it is not perfect, for example they don't support the 4g option on my 8.9 KF, so that one remains stock.

I don't regret spending the money (I've converted 3 Gen 1 KFs so far). Its an individual decision.

Plus, any time that I want, within 10 minutes I can take the KF back to a stock operating system.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2014 5:26:03 PM PDT
LadyHawke says:
Since my KF #1 didn't get the Amazon update, it's ironic that the N2Aos folks have removed their product from sale to everybody (albeit temporarily). I'm not in a big hurry but it is annoying that I'm currently blocked on all sides!

Posted on Jul 1, 2014 9:30:12 AM PDT
ScottyG says:
Add me to the list of disappointed folks who own a 1st gen Fire and cannot get prime music. Just another reason why I'll probably never buy another Amazon device.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2014 9:41:27 AM PDT
King Al says:
Then you won't buy any other devices either. All tablets eventually stop getting updates available for newer models.

Posted on Jul 2, 2014 8:49:03 AM PDT
Jeff Harper says:
But isn't it a problem that I have prime music on every device I own except my Kindle Fire? I bought my Fire as experiment in did I want to get a tablet. I soon discoveredI liked my Kindle Fire but found the ability to purchase apps so limiting that when buying my last tablet I compared high End Android and iPads and did not consider the fire. I enjoy Prime music on the iPad now confirming my decision.

The only value I see to the Kindle Fire now is the Prime book lending library. I maybe wrong but find myself being pulled out of the Fire ecosphere.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2014 7:06:04 PM PDT
Texas Mark says:
The problem is it should not need an update to handle streaming audio. All it would need at most is an updated app or just let you stream from the browser. It's just a way to force people to buy a new device.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2014 7:35:20 PM PDT
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King Al says:
But is quite possible that updating the app for the 1st generation Fire is not worthwhile -- there have been numerous reports of app updates which are no longer compatible with the 1st gen Fire.

Edit: fixed typo

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 19, 2014 8:17:22 AM PDT
ScottyG says:
Not at all. The 1st gen is just too young to obsolete so soon. Why do you think that Amazon hasn't explained why they won't stream to it? They want you to buy the latest.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 19, 2014 8:28:29 AM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Amazon doesn't explain anything. They announce things when they are ready to implement them.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 8:59:01 AM PDT
ScottyG says:
Actually, they will via email. The 1st gen fire already streams music, so there should be no reason why it cannot stream prime. If that statement is incorrect, let them say so.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 9:02:42 AM PDT
King Al says:
If your theory is correct, why is Prime music available on last year's Fire HD?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 9:04:53 AM PDT
Unless you are a major shareholder, Amazon doesn't have to explain anything. It is quite possible they simply decided not to make this particular feature available on older devices, in order to encourage sales of newer ones. That is their right. It is your right to choose not to make the purchase. As it stands, the initial Fire does everything it was supposed to do when you bought it. There was nothing to indicate that it would receive every possible new feature after the fact.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 9:06:14 AM PDT
King Al says:
No, they will not tell you why.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 9:09:50 AM PDT
New Girl says:
One reason may be that the 1st generation Fire uses a different version of Android. This may cause some security or licensing issues that we are not aware of. I would be curious if any of the updated Amazon Music apps work on devices that are still running the previous version of Android (Jelly Bean I believe)

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 10:33:18 AM PDT
"...the 1st generation Fire uses a different version of Android..."

This is why I've assumed Prime music streaming wouldn't work on it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 25, 2014 11:03:10 AM PDT
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