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Initial post: Sep 13, 2012 6:39:00 AM PDT
Good Morning,

I have been wondering if anyone know whether the new Kindle Fire has the capabilities to organize the book content into collections or folders so that you can group things together and not have to scroll through your entire content for a specific book?
Thanks much!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 13, 2012 6:49:17 AM PDT
No it doesn't
There is an app called Book Collections but I have tried it and do not recommend it.

You can import your books to Shelfari and keep track of them there. However Amazon has still not made an android app for Shelfari.

Posted on Sep 16, 2012 6:39:49 PM PDT
Imagine going into a colorful library and seeing hundreds of books in a single pile. This is equivalent to a Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD.

Now imagine going into another plain black-and-white library, but the books are organized into collections on shelves so they can be easily found. This is equivalent to the Kindle keyboard.

Not having a collections feature is a major drawback for the Kindle Fire HD and Kindle Fire. Many Kindle keyboard owners will not upgrade until this feature is available. Trust me. I know. I'm one of them. When one has hundreds of books it doesn't matter how good the search function is; that is no substitute for an *organized* libary of books.

I almost clicked the buy button, but thought I should check the features. I was glad I discovered this feature is lacking before I put my money up front.

If the Fire HD is supposed to be a low-priced tablet, that's fine, but don't call it an eBook reader. Reader apps are already available for tablets. Amazon needs to remember the roots of the Kindle and not neglect its niche purpose of being a viable alternative to a large hard-copy library and a way to increase book sales volume.

I believe Amazon will add a collections feature to the Kindle Fire HD once they understand how many people are hesitating to upgrade.

Posted on Sep 16, 2012 7:13:07 PM PDT
There is a search feature. 3 times on my Kindle Keyboard it crashed and over 1000 items were out of their collections, I gave up and took them all off, now I have 10 things on it, it is fast too.

Posted on Sep 16, 2012 8:32:36 PM PDT
L. Hill says:
Actually...I think they do call it a tablet...that actually uses an "app" to read books! While I agree there should be a better way to arrange books, I simply don't keep all my books on my Fire - that's what their "cloud" is for! So, I only have the books I am working with, or reading, actually on my Fire at any one time.

We hoped Amazon would add collections to the Fire - hoping since last year - and while I still hope, I don't see it. I have added a "New Hope" - that some industrious app developer will write an app to to it for us! If I had the ability, i would!!!

Posted on Sep 16, 2012 10:15:01 PM PDT
>> that's what their "cloud" is for <<

But the cloud doesn't have any organizational tools like collections either, does it?

Posted on Dec 1, 2012 11:59:36 PM PST
Delphius says:
Agreed wholeheartedly! I read the most on my kindle fire hd. I absolutely love the movies, tv shows, and all, but I have a huge library that grows by leaps and bounds. I'm dying for some way to organize my books, either with shelves or collections. Even in the cloud you have to rummage around. Eventually as my media library builds (I buy all digitally now) I'll have the same organization problems there. It already puts each season separately. That's going to get real old fast when scrolling. I can't believe such a fundamental tool is being ignored after thousands of requests from their owners.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012 12:52:40 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
I'm gonna guess that it isn't as easy as everyone seems to think it is - after all, after the uproar over parental controls Amazon did come in and provide those

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 2:17:39 AM PST
Delphius says:
I'm sorry but I don't see what is so hard about allowing collections. It's not like they haven't done the technology before IE the e ink devices. As far as parental controls not everyone is concerned with them. Look at iPad. They have absolutely no REAL parental controls yet encourage you to hand over their device to kids. At least kindle and nook can say they've tried and kept improving. iPad doesn't even attempt it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012 2:48:01 AM PST
Dragi Raos says:
"I believe Amazon will add a collections feature to the Kindle Fire HD once they understand how many people are hesitating to upgrade."

Fire is not an upgrade, it is a quite different device. I keep on it mostly magazines (which have much better UI on Fire than is possible on e-ink devices), PDFs, cookbooks and similar content that can take advantage of larger, faster, higher resolution color display. If fancy strikes me to continue reading a book I started on PW or KK, I just go to Cloud sorted by most recent, and it is on the top.

That said, collections/tags would still be a most welcome feature.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 5:18:30 PM PST
Kathi says:
So I just got the kindle fire hd. First I find out that the charger that quickly charges it does not come with it. Then I found out that the Kindle cover I purchased for extra covers up the edges so its very hard to hit the tiny little tab to get out of anything. Then I found out it does not have flash.Spent all afternoon trying to do a workaround to try to get it another way, but failed. Then I discovered I had to purchase another app to make the camera function work. and had to purchase anther book about how to navigate around this thing because the basic user function guide is inadequate. Now, I discover one cannot even put books into simple categories! So I (guess what?) purchased the app for making collections, and it doesn't even work. So it's all ka-ching ka-ching for amazon, but I am one very unhappy customer! Kindle is an eReader for gosh sakes. what on earth are they doing omitting the function of putting books into categories???? I have now spent so much money on extras, that sending this thing back is not an option. But I do feel I can start to speak out and warn allmy fiends to go to Nook or iPad.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 5:26:18 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 2, 2012 5:27:01 PM PST
Kathi -

1) You can certainly charge the Kindle Fire with the USB cable that comes with it. No where on the product page is the Kindle Fire advertised as coming with a wall charger. You had the opportunity to get the Power Fast charger for $9.99 when you bought the Kindle.

2) Was the case you purchased designed for the Fire HD? If so, it shouldn't cover anything necessary for the Kindle to function. If you don't like it, you can return it within 30 days for another case. I have a Marware Microshell case from my Fire HD that works beautifully.

3) No new Android devices have Flash since Adobe dropped support for it in August 2012. You can easily add Flash and a Flash compatible Browser to the Kindle Fire HD. It took me less than 10 minutes to get Flash up and running.

4) I have been told by other users that you can use ES File Explorer to take pictures. I have not tested it yet, but this is a free app. The camera on the Fire HD is advertised for Skype use only.

5) The Kindle Fire has never supported collections. Additionally, if you had read the reviews on the 3rd party "collections" app for the Fire, you would have seen that it gets bad reviews.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012 10:54:35 PM PST
W. Laine says:
The "cloud" does not allow organizing books into collections, either. I find it very tedious to look through 600 books in the "cloud."

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 11:10:22 PM PST
Sue says:
I thought I read on one thread that you can make collections on PC app for Amazon. I am not sure it that would help or not. I have the app but do not use it much. It maybe something to look into.

Posted on Dec 2, 2012 11:11:44 PM PST
A few comments.

On the 8.9, the camera app is built in. Go the the photos tab, press the camera icon and a shutter icon appears on the screen. I don't know about the 7.

A year ago, I didn't care about collections, now I think it would be a good feature. Hopefully, Amazon is working on it, at least for the Cloud and accessible from a Kindle. I'm not in the club that thinks Amazon is ignoring their customers. Amazon rarely says anything about a feature until it is released, or at least ready to order - the Glow competitor, parental controls, TTS on the new Fire HD's. Anyone who knows tech and databases should realize that setting up a collections organization system that will work across multiple types of devices is a really challenging task. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 6:06:50 AM PST
MH Goodwin says:
I am in agreement that Amazon needs to have a collections feature on the Kindle Fire HD. I have still held onto my Kindle Keyboard for that very reason because it is so much easier to organize your books. And it cannot be impossible to do because the Nook HD has the capability to organize your books onto shelves to keep your collections in order. Come on Amazon! I have had all of your Kindles so don't let us down!
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