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How to see metadata on Paperwhite?


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Initial post: Jan 23, 2014 8:00:32 AM PST
Csaba B. says:
The book format does have a metadata on Paperwhite. Is it possible to get it? I want to read the description of the book when browsing several books in order to decide what to read. Now it is impossible unless you have the book on Amazon web page (which is not the case since I am mostly not reading in English.

Second wish: I would like to have the book cover as the screen saver. in this case I would immediately know what I am reading.

Csaba

Posted on Jan 23, 2014 8:23:31 AM PST
I've never seen a book with the description metadata filled out, and the Kindle has no way to display it, anyway. It just connects you to the store if you want to view the book description.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 11:35:39 AM PST
Csaba B. says:
But in many ebookformatsin themetadata there is a description of the book. That is pitty that Kindle (I have Paperwhite) cannotdisplay it. It should be changed.

Csaba

Posted on Jan 23, 2014 11:40:58 AM PST
Yes, there is a place for it in the metadata, but the publishers never fill it in. So, until publishers start doing that, there is no point in Kindle allowing the display of it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 11:44:59 AM PST
Csaba B. says:
I do not really care about the publishers because I am organizing my books in Calibre and download the books to Kindle from there. If there is no description in the book file I can download it from the web anyway and put it into the book. And I usually do that.

So it would be nice to have this possibility in the Kindle.

Csaba

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 11:51:13 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
Since most people do not use Calibre, Amazon has no reason to make this data available on Kindles at this time.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 12:50:54 PM PST
Csaba B. says:
I am really happy to get acquainted with a person knowing "most of the people". Anyway, most of the people did not use ebooks and Amazon still made available the first Kindle ebook reader.

Are you an Amazon employee? Hope not.

Csaba

Posted on Jan 23, 2014 12:54:12 PM PST
T. Cook says:
"most of the people did not use ebooks and Amazon still made available the first Kindle ebook reader."

You're right. ebooks should not have been made available for the first ebook reader.
Glad someone out there knows about business models!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 12:56:18 PM PST
IMO, there is no need to be rude, Csaba.

This is a customer forum. That means there are no Amazon employees here nor does Amazon monitor these forums.

From other threads here, Just Peachy, is quite correct. Some do use Calibre but many/most find it too complex.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 1:00:07 PM PST
Csaba B. says:
"IMO, there is no need to be rude, Csaba. "

I agree. So what about Just Peachy's statement?

"Some do use Calibre but many/most find it too complex." I have opposite experience.

Csaba

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 1:05:12 PM PST
Csaba B. says:
"Glad someone out there knows about business models!"

I am not alone. There are several fellow users around Here as well.

Csaba

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 1:43:40 PM PST
Just Peachy says:
What was rude about what I said?
I've been around this forum for a few years and feel confident in saying that most users to not use Calibre. I wasn't tell you not to use Calibre.

Maybe you don't find it too complex. Bully for you. Most Kindle users have no use for Calibre.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 1:55:07 PM PST
Csaba B. says:
"What was rude about what I said?"

Ignoring minority (in your opinion minority) wishes.

"I've been around this forum for a few years and feel confident in saying that most users to not use Calibre. I wasn't tell you not to use Calibre."

The correct statement would be "most of the members of this forum". Again ignorance.

"Most Kindle users have no use for Calibre."

Again "most". Ignorance again. And ignorance is rude.

Did I explain?

Csaba

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 1:57:20 PM PST
There was nothing in Just Peachy's statement that was rude. She was simply stating a general observation based on years in this forum, and pointing out that the number of users *of a program which already exists* are not such that Amazon would be likely to put dollars into developing software which blends with that program.

And even more so when a fair chunk of the people who use Calibre do so because it enables them to alter the files they've downloaded from Amazon. Why would they choose to appear to support the use of a program in ways that breach their own terms of use?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 1:58:45 PM PST
Just Peachy says:
Why should I care about minority wishes about this?
I do NOT work for Amazon.

Are you saying over 50% of the millions of people who have a Kindle use Calibre?

I am not the one being ignorant here. You are obviously talking about yourself.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:11:30 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 23, 2014 2:12:13 PM PST
>>"I've been around this forum for a few years and feel confident in saying that most users to not use Calibre. I wasn't tell you not to use Calibre."

The correct statement would be "most of the members of this forum". Again ignorance.<<

No, not ignorance. In general, kindle users on this forum are much more knowledgeable about the capabilities of their kindles than those kindlers who are not on this forum. I think you'd find all the regulars would say that's their experience. Given that (at an estimate) less than half of the forum members use Calibre, it's pretty reasonable to extrapolate from those to figures and say that Kindle + Calibre users are in the minority.

But really, you can't have it both ways. Either Peachy was wrong in the proportion of Calibre users and they're actually a majority, or she was wrong in "ignoring minority wishes" (which she didn't do anyway, because it's Amazon you want to take action on this, not Peachy). They can't be both a majority AND a minority.

Oh, and by the way: if you're in a minority, you can't magically turn it into a majority by complaining louder.

(Edited for typo)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:11:38 PM PST
 nospin  says:
You take rudeness to new levels.

Because you want something Amazon should drop everything to make it available to you?

The real world does not work like that, sweetie.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:12:29 PM PST
Just Peachy says:
Excellent!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:12:34 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
It is simple to know the number of people who use Calibre. There are statistics that show how many downloads there are so you don't have to be rude about it. This is just a customer forum. If you want Amazon to change something then contact them directly.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:13:14 PM PST
Ignorance is rude? Then you are the most ignorant person I've run across on the forums today.

Go find a device that does what you want. Or contact Amazon with you suggestions. What is it that you think you can accomplish by posting here and being rude?

Maybe this is just the way you like to fill the long, lonely day stretching in front of you.

Bless your heart.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:13:23 PM PST
Csaba B. says:
"There was nothing in Just Peachy's statement that was rude. She was simply stating a general observation based on years in this forum, and pointing out that the number of users *of a program which already exists* are not such that Amazon would be likely to put dollars into developing software which blends with that program."

I do not understand your statement. Who speaks about altering Calibre by Amazon? I asked about a feature in Kindle Paperwhite. Namely I want to be able to see what is there in many of e-books (description in metadata) while I am using Paperwhite. Who speaks about Calibre here? I still think that it would be a useful addition and will force the publishers to fill the description field in the metadata.

"And even more so when a fair chunk of the people who use Calibre do so because it enables them to alter the files they've downloaded from Amazon. Why would they choose to appear to support the use of a program in ways that breach their own terms of use?"

You are completely wrong and very "American". Can you imagine there are people living outside US? I am usually (I may say never, but there were two exceptions) downloaded ebook from Amazon because I prefer reading romans, poems etc. in my native language and there are very few (almost none) of such books are available on Amazon website. So my main source of books are from my home bookstore's webpages. And the rules are different for different bookstores.

Paperwhite is just a reader and it has nothing to do with the rules of the Amazon bookstore.

Maybe I made my opinion clear.

Csaba

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:13:38 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
How is that a rude statement?? Many people on these forums have mentioned that Calibre was to complex for them to use.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:14:59 PM PST
Since you are unknowledgeable of the answer to your question, you must therefore be rude.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:15:23 PM PST
Just Peachy says:
"Who speaks about altering Calibre by Amazon?"
That is not what was said. Amazon would have to change the Kindle software to pull the data from Calibre.

"it has nothing to do with the rules of the Amazon bookstore."
Again, no one said anything about the Amazon bookstore but the Kindle software would have to be modified.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2014 2:15:43 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
From the way you post English is not your first language (at least I hope not). There are other forums that the owner of Calibre responds to and a lot of us keep up with those as well. The only ignorance I see is yours.
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