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Paperwhite does NOT have better contrast?!


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Initial post: Sep 9, 2012 4:36:57 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 9, 2012 4:37:32 PM PDT
merf says:
See video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwXuyMbzAQ&t=0m44s

Transcript:
"We're at max brightness right now. Let's see if we can bring it down a little bit."
*turns light brightness setting all the way off*
"...and what you get is something that's very similar to the old Kindle in color - basically the same contrast."

I could be wrong, but it seems like the Paperwhite only has better contrast when the light is on. (Notice in ads how the light is always on?) Of course it'll have better contrast if you shine a light on it - nothing has contrast in the dark! It makes me wonder if the Paperwhite e-ink is any different from the Pearl e-ink... Sounds like a potential case of false advertising to me.

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 4:42:24 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 9, 2012 4:43:56 PM PDT
CLS10 says:
It's the same pearl screen (paperwhite pearl, i guess). The light is what makes the difference. Bezos noted that many will use the light because of the extra contrast, hence why they made sure to have good battery life.

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 4:45:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 9, 2012 4:45:46 PM PDT
Everything I've read says that the when the light is all the way off the screen is grayish, maybe a bit less gray than current models. Someone posted a link (sorry I can't find it now) showing an unlit one next to a Touch, and the color did look pretty similar.

Because of the higher resolution, the printing on the Paperwhite was very noticeably sharper and clearer than that on the Touch though.

I ordered a Paperwhite anyway. It won't bother me if I end up having to use the light all the time as long as I can adjust it as needed. The battery life will still be good enough for me.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 4:55:25 PM PDT
merf says:
Thanks for clearing that up. Definitely seems like false advertising, since the screen itself doesn't have "25% better contrast"; the old Kindles could have just as much "contrast" if you shined a light on them.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 4:57:18 PM PDT
CLS10 says:
Maybe you should wait until you actually handle one before you claim that amazon is guilty of false advertising.

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 5:00:31 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 9, 2012 5:45:32 PM PDT
Danica says:
Good advice from CLS10. Know what you're talking about before making accusations.

As for "false advertising": That is bush league stuff, and not at all the kind of thing that a major company would do -- especially a company like Amazon which works so hard to maintain a reputation for fair and responsible business practices.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 5:49:42 PM PDT
Anne Shirley says:
There are also more pixels, making the text sharper.

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 6:07:02 PM PDT
Sigh. I wish everyone would wait until they have this new generation in hand before giving them hell, or even kudos for that matter. I think the best thing for me to do is stay away from these forums until there is only actual first hand information to read.

Sorry for the rant, but I've had enough. :(
Signing off now. Go ahead and vote "no" and be done with it. Won't hurt my feelings one little bit. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 6:15:34 PM PDT
merf says:
I'm asking for confirmation. Also note that I said it "seems like." As in, based on the information I have, this is my perception. Where ever did I actually claim anything?

Reading comprehension, folks.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 6:15:54 PM PDT
merf says:
Resolution =/= contrast.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 6:21:18 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 6:22:33 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 13, 2012 3:31:19 PM PDT
C. Ng, you've been looking for things to complain about ever since the announcement. In this case you're just wrong. Amazon explained exactly what the screen is and how it works, and was pretty clear in the press conference that the improved contrast was due to the lighting. So you can take your false advertising claim back before somebody decides to take you to court for defamation.

"Where ever did I actually claim anything?"

Bull. You said, and I quote, "Sounds like a potential case of false advertising to me." That is not a request for information or confirmation. That is a statement of your opinion. You can't weasel out of it by claiming that's not what you meant.

And then, three posts later: "Definitely seems like false advertising" - how is that a request for clarification?

ETA: For those wondering, the OP was originally using the handle C. Ng, which is why I referred to him/her that way here.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 6:27:08 PM PDT
merf says:
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Posted on Sep 9, 2012 6:27:13 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 9, 2012 6:28:03 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 9, 2012 6:27:56 PM PDT
Troll = Troll

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 6:29:53 PM PDT
(for the newer people... ping ping ping is the TrollDar going off. When a troll is confirmed I send out a TrollCon alert.)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 6:29:59 PM PDT
I'm not threatening anything, but you are misrepresenting your position. You did not ask questions, you made actionable statements - twice.

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Posted on Sep 9, 2012 7:54:01 PM PDT
J. Gatie says:
This is why I hate new product announcements. It brings every delusional CE fanboy out of the woodwork, away from their game console battles and their Star Trek conventions, and gives them yet another venue to live out their fantasy of being some sort of CE product super hero. C. Ng we get it, you don't like the new Kindle. You've made your point, now go back to whatever basement you crawled out from, because I think I hear your mom calling. Maybe she made you cookies.

Posted on Sep 9, 2012 7:54:34 PM PDT
I just found the link I mentioned earlier. The difference in clarity is quite striking, although I don't know how much of it is because of the relative distances from the camera.

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/5336415/kindle-paperwhite-vs-79-kindle-XSC_1991-rm-verge-1020_gallery_post.jpg

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012 7:56:23 PM PDT
+1

Posted on Sep 13, 2012 3:15:46 PM PDT
FreeDove says:
I think the Paperwhite makes a world of difference in the clarity of the print. The Kindle Touch is so gray but I have noticed on the Kindle Keyboard I bought the background is a little bit lighter than on the Kindle Touch. I will eventually buy a Paperwhite 3G if they don't come out with one with TTS. I have bought 4 Kindles this year so I have reached my limit for awhile.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 13, 2012 3:21:55 PM PDT
Sounds like a clear lack of rocket science going on to me.
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