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Initial post: Nov 6, 2011 10:50:27 PM PST
Hi, I live in Kunming, CHina and I'm interested in buying a kindle, I've read somewhere that Amazon wouldn't ship it there, is it true?

and If they do ship to china, how am I supposed to note my adress? (the address form doesn't take Chinese characters)
thanks
Ilan

Posted on Nov 6, 2011 10:57:38 PM PST
CBRetriever says:
no, unfortunately. From the drop down countries list:

China
Unfortunately, we are currently unable to ship Kindles or offer Kindle content in China.
Hong kong = yes
Taiwan = yes

Posted on Nov 27, 2011 3:55:10 AM PST
H. Rose says:
Hi
My son lives in China and owns a kindle. He cannot download books there. Can I purchase and put kindle books on a USB stick here and send them to him?

Posted on Nov 27, 2011 4:34:05 AM PST
Ilan--China has not yet permitted the Kindle or Kindle content within it's borders. It is not so much Amazon (who is making some inroads into the Chinese market otherwise) as it is the choices of the government.

Rose--I have an idea that might work--and if he already has a Kindle to cost to try it is pretty small (USB sticks/sd drives etc are pretty cheap). I have thought about this for people without ready access to the internet even (let alone the whispernet).

For this to work you have to think of the DRM (digital rights management) issue. The Kindle would need to be registered to your Amazon account OR your son would need his own Amazon account (not based in China) that you would have access to This is because the copy of the book you are buying is coded specifically for his device.

Once you have decided on the books you would go to the selling page and click on it to buy. The next option will be a dropdown menu that specifies which device or app the copy is intended for. Scroll down the choices until you find 'transfer by USB'. The next screen will ask you which Kindle you are putting the copy of the book on and this is where you would specify your son's Kindle by name (ie Timmy's Kindle or whatever name it goes by).

Once you have the copy downloaded to your computer then you would normally transfer it over to the Kindle attached by the USB cord. The computer sees the Kindle as a drive--you open up the Kindle 'drive' and find the documents folder and drag/put the copy of the book into the documents folder, and the book will show up the next time you open the Kindle.

What I think would work would be to drag the downloaded file and drop onto your tranfer media (thumb drive/stick/sd card). Then mail that to your son. He would need a computer to plug his kindle and the stick into and he could then place properly DRM coded books onto the Kindle (making sure to use the documents folder).

I have NOT tried this but at this point you could give it a try with a couple of cheap books first to make sure it works.

The key is that you would have to either have his Kindle on your account or have access to his account so you can buy a book coded for his device. If it were me, I would prefer to give you access to my account because if he ever leaves China then he might want 'ownership' of his previously purchased books. The books bought for the Kindle belong permanently to the account that purchased them--not to the Kindle that is used to read it.

As you are probably aware, China does not/has not permitted the Kindle device or content. It MIGHT be different if the Kindle is a US (or elsewhere) Kindle, namely the 'home country' is something other than China but it doesn't sound like it. I had a short trip there a year ago and as I recall I could not access the Kindle store even when I had a 3G signal detected. Things may have changed in a year, but that is unlikely IMO. That said, the Kindle itself worked fine--I have a picture of me reading it on the Great Wall.

Good luck seeing if this is workable--there seems to be no reason it shouldn't!

JTG

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2011 7:03:57 AM PST
well actually, both Nook and Kindle are available on taobao.com, straight from the factory, and cheaper... problem solved

@Rose, what your son could do (if he has a computer) is get a VPN (of you're not familiar with it it's a software that gives him a fake IP in another country, say the US, to go around Chinese censorship, it's very common among expats here) it costs about 6$ a month. The one I use is called "Astrill" but there are many
your son could then browse a free internet and get books for his kindle through his computer
hope that helps

Posted on Nov 27, 2011 7:32:38 AM PST
Straight from the factory and cheaper...gee I wonder if Amazon and B&N know this...considering China does not allow the Kindle content to be sold there from Amazon....

Reminds me vaguely of the iPads in the Apple store replicas....gotta love it.

JTG

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2011 9:52:59 AM PST
I think they do (how couldn't they) but they know it's a small price to pay for exploiting VERY cheap workforce
otherwise they would be manufacturing in the US wouldn't they...
It's some kind of bitter joke, but I guess China is still communist in that respect : playing tricks on worldwide capitalism and using it to their advantage.

and, as a resident of Kunming, Yunnan province, which is famous for its fake apple stores, I can confirm that they are all over the place, it's incredible, people working there are even very proud of working for apple... while they actually work against the company.

this country is a neverending source of irony

Posted on Nov 27, 2011 3:48:21 PM PST
blueberrz says:
Hey, I doubt the Nook and Kindle available on taobao.com are straight from the factory. More likely, they are from agents who have contacts in USA and ship the devices back to China to sell.

Posted on Dec 27, 2011 2:24:50 AM PST
I am a teacher and would like to purchase a kindle fire for a student who lives in china and load it with wonderful children's books about 20 or so. I do not want to give the child or family access to my credit card, so I guess once I load it, I change the account information. Also, I would like to load some audio books with an onscreen interface so the student can read and hear the words. Is that possible? Do you have any suggestions.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2011 2:32:06 AM PST
Which would really be just silly, considering there's a kindle factory in China. I know for sure that's so, because I watched my kindle on the tracker from dispatch to arrival, and it originated in China. (And the back of it says "assembled in China")

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 5, 2012 1:05:55 AM PST
It is not workable. I have done that with my Kindle fire in China and the books vaporize if the Fire can't authenticate by WIFI.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 5, 2012 1:07:10 AM PST
I do that here in China but then the books disappear from my Kindle Fire eventually because it ant authen
ticate my account.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 5, 2012 1:08:23 AM PST
Not allowing people to access Western books via a Kindle is a form of censorship yes?

Posted on Feb 5, 2012 1:36:29 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
yes, by the Chinese government

Posted on Feb 5, 2012 1:49:59 AM PST
blazingcontent, you misunderstood my (overly lengthy post). I was NOT referring to the Fire as that is a tablet device clearly marked not for use outside the US.

I was referring to the normal e-reader products that are for use outside the US. I have one Kindle (a US-only K2) that once I left the US I could only sideload. Whether that had to be by my own computer or via a thumb drive with files downloaded from my own account, I do not know. I will experiment some day and try to figure it out.

I also have a couple (okay, 3) Kindles that have only seen wifi in Europe, and only sporadically as my ISP does not play well with Kindles. My 3G device is no problem. But my Kbasics I have for my children have maybe seen wifi twice in their lives. Once I took them to a hotspot in order to enable a few features and once again perhaps because we were at Subway and got it for free.

I sideload all their books, just as I did for my original K2.

There is NO REQUIREMENT for 'authenticating via wifi' for a Kindle e-reader. Yes, there are some features needed via wifi and to register, but you don't even have to be in your country of origin---I was in Spain when I registered the KTouch and two KBasics to my US account. I don't know how good the Chinese firewall is, it may not even allow the registration of a device, and since I am no longer in Asia it is unlikely I will ever return there. I would be seriously tempted to take a $79 Kindle basic with me just to see if I could register it...

Of course, the Fire is a completely different type of device and does depend on wifi to work properly AND are geographically limited to the US. So, I am not at all surprised it did not work in China.

"Not allowing people to access Western books via a Kindle is a form of censorship yes?" and is a function of the Chinese government. Not Amazon. Amazon has to play by the rules set by the government in question--in every country, and many countries have limited access. Also, limited publishing rights. Electronic book rights are quite different than paper book rights, and sometimes the paper book and the electronic book rights are owned by different companies entirely.

Thanks for reviving this zombie thread, I keep forgetting to do my thumb drive experiment. Perhaps I will get it done today.

JTG

Posted on Apr 23, 2012 11:16:36 PM PDT
K. Felt says:
I've been using my old school Kindle in China (which I bought and set up in the states) for the last two years, no problems. I've downloaded occasionally by wi-fi at friend's homes in China, but usually download directly to my computer, then upload them via the USB cable onto my Kindle. I've never had any problems. Not sure how Kindle fire works in China.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 23, 2012 11:36:12 PM PDT
AmeliaAT says:
blazingcontent was not replying to you, JTG, but to Janis Falco who wanted to send a Fire to a child in China.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 24, 2012 9:24:01 AM PDT
My post on 27 November was referring to normal eInk Kindles.

Blazingcontent has a 5 Feb post that specifically is in reply to my post (I can tell because of the red "In reply to" in the upper right...). In that post the Fire was mentioned.

My reply on 5 Feb was to point out that I was discussing the real eInk Kindles and not the Fire to clarify for the response to my previous comment.

I don't see where Blazingcontent replied to the Falco post at all. I don't even see where any of the 'replies' are in reference to that post which is too bad. It's a good question if anyone has any ideas for her.

As an aside, I did try downloading 'for USB transfer' two books--one coded for my Kindle and one coded for my son's Kindle on another account (and purchased properly from the respective accounts). I moved them to an SD card and subsequently moved the files from the SD card to the proper Kindle. Everything worked fine using the SD card as an intermediary.

So if someone has a friend or loved one living where there is no wifi/3G/computer access online (but there is mail delivery) they could mail SD cards loaded with books coded for the Kindle--they would just need access to the account as I have for my son's Kindle (an a computer with an SD slot and a USB port to add the Kindle).

JTG

In any case, the regular Kindles do work fine without seeing wifi. I can't speak for the Fire, but my understanding is no and not anywhere outside the US (currently).
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