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Why amazon won't go 7" or even 8" on mainstream e-ink readers?


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Initial post: May 19, 2013 7:53:17 PM PDT
LukeSky says:
IMHO, hopefully they do.
6 inches is what holds me back from using my kindle as much as I read my paperbacks.
Maybe a paperback size e-reader would definely bring a huge drop on paper books sales?
Cheaper brands are already making 7" instead of 6, but of course they don't work with the Amazon ecosystem.

Posted on May 19, 2013 7:55:42 PM PDT
GnomeEd says:
They had the DX which was a larger screen

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2013 7:55:51 PM PDT
MikeJW says:
If you want to know why, you gotta ask Amazon. We're just customers/users.

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2013 8:02:30 PM PDT
Which cheaper brands?

Amazon usually releases new models in the Fall.

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2013 9:21:47 PM PDT
Probably because market research has determined that the current size is what most people want, and is most likely to produce maximum revenue. But I'm just guessing.

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2013 9:29:00 PM PDT
 Ann says:
Amazon sold a 9.7" e-ink Kindle for several years. It was more expensive than the smaller Kindles and didn't sell as well. You can still find them used.

Kindle DX, Free 3G, 9.7" E Ink Display, 3G Works Globally

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2013 9:38:01 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 19, 2013 9:39:18 PM PDT
Dorsie says:
The only 6.8" one of which I am aware is the Kobo Aura HD, but it is $170. Nook declined to purchase from the first run of this screen.

Amazon is in a good position to wait and see, instead of introducing a new e-reader with the screen's first run. Initial reviews of the Kobo Aura HD say it suffers more than it gains from the larger screen. They cite both the extra size and weight as causing problems with comfortable handling, especially using one hand.

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Posted on May 19, 2013 10:18:36 PM PDT
R. D. Clark says:
Yes, the only thing that would induce me to a bigger screen is if it came in a package as light and easy to handle as the current Basic or PaperWhite. This is an area where a small difference can be a big difference.

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2013 11:50:11 PM PDT
saraf says:
I haven't found the extra weight of the Aura bothers me at all, and I read one handed all the time. I've had it since April 22 and have read about 20 books on it so far. I love the screen size and the quality of the display is amazing. The lighting is very even and beats the lighting on my Nook Glowlight and Paperwhite hands down. The Aura replaced my paperwhite as my favorite reader. I've already decided no new Kindle for me this fall unless they make one the size of the Aura. A reader with the screen size and quality of the Aura with Amazon customer service would be awesome! Kobo's not known for great CS, but their devices are very nice.

In reply to an earlier post on May 20, 2013 12:10:28 AM PDT
Dorsie says:
That's good to know, and thank you for the hands on review. Maybe you could write to Amazon and tell them how good it is so they won't take the word of the tech mags. I certainly trust your input based on your postings in this forum and would love to see this technology on a new Kindle. Enjoy your new Kobo. :)

In reply to an earlier post on May 20, 2013 1:44:39 AM PDT
S. Prewitt says:
Sergio, I'm with you.

I think most of the people on this forum read text-only novels almost exclusively, and 6" displays are probably ideal for this. (Unless you have bad eyes and need a really big font size.) But for people who read lots of nonfiction and PDFs with charts and tables, bigger is definitely better.

I'll bet Amazon could make a 7" Paperwhite ereader w/o dedicated keyboard that was roughly the same size and weight as the now-defunct 6" Kindle Keyboard, which I carry with me everywhere because it's so lightweight. I wish they would.

In reply to an earlier post on May 20, 2013 7:50:47 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 20, 2013 7:55:35 AM PDT
Sergio Eoksizian says: "6 inches is what holds me back from using my kindle as much as I read my paperbacks."

The 6" screen allows the Kindle to be the size of a paperback.

Size of the Kindle: 6.7" x 4.6"
Size of a paperback (Type A.. mass market): 7.01" x 4.33"

Companies have tried larger ereaders over the years. They never sell very well and eventually are discontinued. The ereaders with overall dimensions that are in line with a paperback are the ones that have sold the best over the years. That is why you are very unlikely to see a Kindle with a larger screen.

In reply to an earlier post on May 20, 2013 9:16:07 PM PDT
AustraLianne says:
I love my DX but it is a little big to carry it around so I read that one when I'm at home and a 6" touch when I'm out. You can get DX's on ebay still...

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 1:36:03 AM PDT
LukeSky says:
I get your point, but of course I was referring to the readable screen, which is 6" diagonally, and clearly smaller than most books.

I'm not really questioning that the Kindle is a great device, which it is, indeed.
What I mean is, I'd like to switch completely to the e-reader, but when I see the first edition of any novel (not the smaller mass market paperback) I find myself wanting to buy it, because the kindle makes me feel like I'm reading on a big cellphone screen, or a very small book.
The bottom line is, I use my kindle mostly when travelling.
And I was thinking, as they made the Kindle Fire HD in 7" and 8.9", so I wish they could do something like that with the e-ink readers. And I know it will eventually happen.

Posted on May 22, 2013 2:01:53 AM PDT
I haven't come across any good rumors that ring true.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:16:05 AM PDT
"...clearly smaller than most books..."

What? Smaller than hardbacks, of course. But "most books"? I disagree.

"...And I know it will eventually happen..."

It DID happen with the DX ... and it did NOT sell well. It was discontinued, because ~most~ people didn't want to carry the damn thing around. The market has proved that the 6" screen is what SELLS.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:45:45 AM PDT
>>>It DID happen with the DX ... and it did NOT sell well. It was discontinued, because ~most~ people didn't want to carry the damn thing around.

Yes. This. Exactly this. I have a DX, and read on it exclusively for about a year and a half. Then I got a KK - and that's become my go-to reading device. I read on my DX occassionally now...mostly so I don't let the battery run down too much. (Which reminds me, it's been a while...time to check its battery.)

The KK is so much lighter and more portable. Much easier to hold with one hand. More convenient to tuck into my purse. And the newer devices are lighter yet.

I just don't see Amazon making a larger e-ink Kindle, even if that larger e-ink Kindle is smaller than the DX.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:49:31 AM PDT
Sergio Eoksizian says: "I get your point, but of course I was referring to the readable screen, which is 6" diagonally, and clearly smaller than most books."

I know you were referring to the screen size. I was explaining why this particular screen size has been the only eReader size that happens to sell well. They could go with the 6.8" screen that the Kobo Aura HD uses and maintain the overall format size if they were able to use a smaller bezel (the frame around the screen). Larger than that simply won't sell, as over a decade of attempts have shown.

"And I was thinking, as they made the Kindle Fire HD in 7" and 8.9", so I wish they could do something like that with the e-ink readers. And I know it will eventually happen."

The difference between a tablet (the Fire) and eReaders (Kindle) is that tablets have shown that they will sell just fine in both large and small sizes... while eReaders have never sold well in sizes larger than a paperback. So no, I'm sorry to say that it most likely won't happen. At least not beyond what I mentioned above.. the 6.8" screen on a device with a smaller side bezel so the size doesn't increase too much beyond it's current size. I'd put somewhere between the Kindle Keyboard (4.8") and the 1st gen Kindle (5.3") as the limit in width and still sell well. (in other words.. the Kobo Aura HD is about the limit at 6.91" x 5.05")

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:52:16 AM PDT
Yep. If I wanted to read on a chest x-ray sized screen, I'd put the Kindle app on a tablet. But my Paperwhite is *perfect* to carry around in my bag. I don't WANT anything bigger (ybik).

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:55:19 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:56:25 AM PDT
What? No. This thread is about the size of Kindle screens.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:56:32 AM PDT
https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/reports

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 6:56:55 AM PDT
You should ask in the Meet Our Authors forum. Link at lower left. We're mainly readers here.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2013 7:08:50 AM PDT
Erich says:
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The *other* end. Cover the output side with a diaper. (Handtowel and duct tape works.) Put the bottle in the *other,* and hopefully uncovered, end.
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