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Initial post: Mar 12, 2014 4:48:31 PM PDT
Tasha says:
Why is it that ebooks at the library are only available on Kindle Fire? I have the Paperwhite. The library says it is because of Amazon and their policy. I would love to check out ebooks. What is the deal with this? Will it be corrected soon?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2014 4:50:43 PM PDT
Zanzibar says:
I'm still checking out ebooks from 3 different libraries on my non-fire kindle. Perhaps your library has switched to a borrowing system that only supports epub versions? If so, it was the library's choice to limit their customers, not Amazon's.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2014 4:51:26 PM PDT
that makes no sense...I have multiple books from my library on my paperwhite right now...

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2014 4:51:48 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 12, 2014 4:52:18 PM PDT
E-books are absolutely available for all e-ink devices. Someone told you wrong.

HOWEVER... What book is it? Some books ARE only formatted for the Fire, but that's not Amazon. That's the publisher.

Where are you getting this information? Talk to someone else.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2014 5:14:29 PM PDT
Artist says:
Unless your library doesn't use the Overdrive system, they gave you incorrect information.

Any e-ink Kindle can borrow books from a library that uses Overdrive.

Posted on Mar 12, 2014 5:24:05 PM PDT
M. Patterson says:
Piling on with no new insight, but confirming what other posters have said. My library uses the Overdrive system and I haven't seen anything yet that wasn't available in both "Kindle" and "epub" format. Selecting Kindle takes me to Amazon, where I always choose my Paperwhite as the device to download to.

So, either the person you spoke with is just uninformed or there's something non-standard about their system...does your library have a tech specialist you can ask for, or can they direct you to a webpage so you can look around yourself?

Posted on Mar 12, 2014 5:28:54 PM PDT
Zanzibar says:
It could be their library is using the 3m borrowing system. It only has epub versions. One of my libraries switched to 3m over a year ago and I was not happy. I'm glad I live in a state where I can join any library system to keep access to Overdrive borrowing.

Posted on Mar 12, 2014 5:30:14 PM PDT
I use the Overdrive system a lot and over the last couple of years have run into e-pub only versions several times. It's not the norm nor the majority, but it definitely does happen.

Posted on Mar 12, 2014 7:07:58 PM PDT
Tasha says:
I will have to ask another librarian because she told me flat out that Amazon was the reason and that they were not happy with Amazon because of this. It sucks because I don't want to always have to buy a book I am interested in reading.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2014 7:13:22 PM PDT
Sarida says:
My library offers both Kindle and EPUB versions on most books.

I usually pick "Kindle" so I can send it to my Kindle Touch, but I also send it to my Kindle app on my iPad.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2014 3:39:40 AM PDT
Again, she is ...shall we say... under-informed. Amazon WANTS them to have the books. The key word you're looking for is "Overdrive". Talk to the head Librarian.

Overdrive works on millions of e-ink Kindles all over the country. If your Library doesn't "work" it's because they either are doing something wrong, or more likely, they chose not to participate for some reason, and that's what you're hearing from the staff member.

Posted on Mar 13, 2014 4:23:24 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 13, 2014 4:23:43 AM PDT
Grimwinder says:
Then Amazon must hate your library specifically, since they lend in over 11,000 public libraries nationwide. Point your helpful librarian to this page-

http://www.overdrive.com/libraries/public-libraries/

If they choose not to participate, it's your library's fault, not Amazon's. I'm sure what your librarian really means is- "It's so unfair that Amazon uses a file format that can't be easily pirated, ohmygerd!".

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2014 4:47:25 AM PDT
Sarida says:
Tasha,

Again, it seems unlikely Amazon is targeting your library only to deny services to eink readers only.

Are you in the United States?

Does your library use Overdrive?

What does the web site say?

Posted on Mar 13, 2014 5:38:56 AM PDT
almost sounds like a librarian who fell for the ADE/other ereader spiel hook line and sinker...I still get ppl when they try to sell me a nook or kobo tell me that I can only read amazon books, can't borrow from the library etc...

Posted on Mar 13, 2014 7:36:55 AM PDT
susan/vt says:
One thing that maybe simply miscommunication is that you can't search out books from Overdrive to download to you ereader directly from your ereader. It can't handle it. But you can search out the book on the computer and then download to your ereader.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2014 7:38:14 AM PDT
This is quite possibly true. But part of the puzzle is the Library staffer saying something about Amazon being the problem. That leads me to believe that individual just doesn't know how it all works.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2014 2:50:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 13, 2014 2:56:41 PM PDT
PS56k says:
@ Tasha says: Why is it that ebooks at the library are only available on Kindle Fire?
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ahh - the joy of the un-knowing...
SO, what app are you using to read your library book ?
What "service" does your library use for e-books,
or better yet.... just provide us all with the library URL ??

There are TWO major e-book formats supported in the library world.
They are the Amazon Kindle format and the Adobe EPUB format.

SO - which did you download to your Kindle Fire,
and does your library offer BOTH formats, like most of the library world, or did they go with a different service provider that only has EPUB ?

Overdrive --> both formats - http://www.overdrive.com/
3M --> Adobe EPUB -------- http://www.3m.com/us/library/eBook/
Axis360 - Adobe EPUB ------ http://btol.com/axis360/

Posted on Mar 13, 2014 4:46:33 PM PDT
mattrweaver says:
There is also the Freading service whose Amazon support is app-based. No vendor has full support for the Kindle format other than Overdrive. Because the Kindle Fire is an Android tablet, other ebook apps can be developed to run on it, and that's how the other vendors try to compete. I don't expect 3M/Axis360/Freading will get full Amazon support, either, because I imagine the Overdrive's agreement with Amazon calls for exclusive rights to support the Kindle format. So, if your library isn't with Overdrive, it isn't really Amazon's fault. It doesn't help you, though. Are there other libraries in your area that are with Overdrive where you can get a card? Does your state library offer a state-wide agreement with Overdrive?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2014 2:37:41 PM PDT
PS56k says:
I love it when an OP posts a question or more of a complaint -
and then just disappears... how do we find out how the story ends ??

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 14, 2014 9:22:59 PM PDT
marty888nyc says:
..... known affectionately as a "drive-by posting" .....

Posted on Nov 20, 2014 12:56:26 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2014 1:06:26 PM PST
mayfire says:
Both of my libraries use the Overdrive system which is compatible with Kindle eReaders. One of these libraries, NYPL, also uses the 3M library for eBooks, which is not Kindle compatible. 3M uses the epub format. Fortunately, most of the books I want to download to my Voyage are in the Overdrive Kindle format. I have recently encountered three that are 3M and unavailable to me. I don't know why Kindle and 3M don't work together. Publisher's choice, maybe? That answer seems logical to me because some publishers and authors choose not to offer their books in digital format at all. I'm pretty happy, though, because there are far more available to borrow now than years ago when I bought my first Kindle. And, yes, I do think you received misinformation from your librarian. Another possible reason is that some small libraries cannot afford to offer both 3M and Overdrive, so they must make a choice and that choice may be ePub only through 3M. My lovely small town library can not afford to hire a full-time librarian. Half of her hours are voluntary and half salaried.

Posted on Jan 8, 2016 10:07:06 PM PST
An interesting direct quote from a librarian :"Unfortunately, Amazon Digital Services does not make any of it's publications available to libraries."This seems to fit right in with library systems having or choosing to purchase the same book in several different formats

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2016 10:12:19 PM PST
King Al says:
The Amazon Digital Services books are generally the self-published books. Until fairly recently, Overdrive did not accept self-published works for inclusion.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2016 6:40:15 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 25, 2016 6:42:23 PM PST
Jessica L. says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2016 6:45:43 PM PST
Sarida says:
1. That is a lot of words.

2. You are responding to a post that is over 1 1/2 years old.

3. I love reading my library books on my Kindle. It works for me.
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