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Initial post: Sep 28, 2011 10:09:34 AM PDT
C. Leifson says:
When will the Kindle Fire be made available to ship to Canada? Soon please!

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 1:22:43 PM PDT
Greg Wade says:
I,m in Canada and would have bought 3 of these for Christmas this year, but now I will have to look at one of the Canadian friendly tablets!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 28, 2011 2:17:50 PM PDT
Ursula Rieu says:
I agree and if this is how amazon thinks of us then maybe us second class citizens called Canadians should mount an online protest saying if you wont support Canada then maybe Canada should Boycott AMAZON !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 2:31:20 PM PDT
I spend tons on ebook through Kindle and feel that Canada should have the same release dates as the States, as well as all the same content. Such as music, movies, shows, and apps. I understand there are issues with movies and shows due to license issues. But apps come on. Apple allows Canadians to purchase apps, even shows and movies. They may come out a week or two later here but we still get them. Amazon is limiting there customer base. They would make a huge profit if the expanded all features to Canada. I got my Kindle 3 this past Christmas, but would by a Kindle fire in a heart beat. Amazon really needs to realize there is a market here in Canada that has not been tapped.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 2:31:32 PM PDT
Montezuma says:
Amazon needs to wake up if they want to compete with Apple. To Apple's credit they support their products, in media, in many countries.

From what I have seen with the Kindle Fire, and my experiences with the Kindle, I would give up my iPad for a Kindle Fire, but since I cannot order the Kindle Fire, I will be sticking with my iPad.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 2:48:07 PM PDT
Even Apple doesn't send Canada their hardware releases at the same time as the U.S. BUT....they always provide a date when we get them. Amazon - why don't you do the same? Instead of saying "available only in the U.S.". A great many Canadians were excited about today's announcement of the Kindle Fire, including our news media. You're ignoring a big market up here.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 2:55:59 PM PDT
Amazon Cloud and Android App store will have to be in place before they can launch Kindle Fire in any country. And there are legal issues with the Cloud service that will have to be settled with each country before that can happen. I'm sure Amazon would love to just make it happen, but it's going to take lawyers, time, and money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12890677

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 6:16:35 PM PDT
The intersting legal question would be what jurisdiction does the Canadian government has over items purchased in the US which stays in the US in cloud form? We know the author, musician, agent and publisher will be paid by the purchase price. But can our government tax these purchases? Regulate who can or cannot access them? Force us to pay those with Canadian distribution rights? Frankly, I don't think so.

It's a brave new world of shopping. Well, at the very least, technology is moving faster than our laws and business can keep up.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 6:21:39 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 28, 2011 6:22:27 PM PDT
Kindleista says:
They are a US company. If they have a limited supply then obviously they're going to look after their own first. I know it sucks that we Canadians sometimes have to wait but look at it this way, Americans get the new toys quicker but they have to live in the US and that can't be fun.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 6:26:50 PM PDT
I don't suppose you've been told that the Canadian government is trying to keep Amazon out. They seem to have a vested interest in KOBO.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 6:39:18 PM PDT
Kindleista says:
Somehow I doubt the Canadian government is actively trying to keep Amazon out of Canada. You probably just got some bad info. You really do need to do your own research these days. Most of the crap you read on internet message boards is written by morons and people with biases (which is everyone.)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 28, 2011 6:46:31 PM PDT
@Patrick: Kindleista is right. You must really buy the notion that Canada is completely communist if you think the government exerts that much control over private business. Trust me, its policies are as pro-business as it gets. Which is why Canada signed a free trade deal with the U.S. (though personally it's hard to tell, given the invisible border that Amazon doesn't seem to want to jump over).

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 7:30:05 PM PDT
Will says:
Amazon has a new Vancouver development office and the existing Amazon.ca distribution facilities in Toronto...

It's Canadian enough (it has enough Canadian subsidiaries over an invisible border)...

I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 28, 2011 7:48:53 PM PDT
antirealist says:
I agree. Perhaps a more interesting question is why the touch screen e-ink models aren't available for pre-order in Canada, and no availability date has been provided. There's no obvious legal barrier to selling them here. Perhaps Amazon just needs to evaluate initial demand on these products.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 9:04:38 PM PDT
If I buy a Kindle Fire in the US and bring it back to Canada, will I be able to use it as a WiFi appliance here? What will be the limitations?

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 10:56:35 PM PDT
I would like to buy a Kindle Fire too,but live in Canada. I also want to be able to borrow books from Canadian libraries that use OverDrive,for Kindle. When?. Amazon please post statement.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 11:10:19 PM PDT
Kribu says:
It's not just Canada but every other country apart from the US. I really don't expect the Fire to be available outside the US until (if ever) Amazon opens up the media services to customers outside the US - it sounds like Fire is primarily meant for enjoying Amazon content, and as long as we non-Americans cannot access that, we'd be better off with a non-Amazon tablet anyway.

The non-availability of the new touchscreen Kindles outside the US confuses me more, but I assume this is to do with estimated demand and supply - if they estimate there will be more than enough Americans to exhaust all their initial supply, they're not going to offer them to anyone else. I'd assume that once they have a better idea of demand as well as more time to produce more units, the touchscreen Kindles *will* be available internationally.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011 11:13:18 PM PDT
Gerry, it would be great if Canadians got together to compare experience. So far, I have not been able to fool Google or Amazon into thinking I'm US resident even though I have US VPN, US address and US credit card. I'm now thinking about using VPN router. However, I can access Amazon Cloud Services. I can upload music from my PC or my iTunes into the Cloud and then play them using the Cloud Player on my Tablet. Of course, with the Kindle app, I can download or archive any of my kindle books.

However, I can not buy anything at the Amazon MP3 store or even install any of their apps even if they are available for me at the Market. The Appstore tells me it's not available for my region and the MP3 store says it is only available for Americans in the US. If I were to get the Fire, I would probably buy apps at the Market if I can't access Amazon's Appstore with either my phone or my tablet. I'm not sure if Amazon can offer daily free apps when they go International. The developers would rebel. There's already grumbling about how free for Amazon is not free for the developers.

I can not access Amazon TV shows or movies but I haven't tried in a while and I haven't tried to upload any videos into their Cloud. Has anyone tried? I think video can be uploaded from anywhere and played anywhere but I'm not 100% sure.

Things are pretty fluid. For one glorious moment the Appstore was open internationally with a lot of countries reporting access. Then it slammed shut. Don't know if they made a mistake or were testing. I check every now and then but can't test everything!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2011 7:02:56 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 29, 2011 7:03:37 AM PDT
Snowbird says:
Thanks Caroline for answering all the questions I had about using a Kindle (and new Kindle Fire) in Canada. We are Snowbirds and go to Florida for 5 months every year. Like you, I have a US address, US credit card and US bank account. I use Amazon often there for their competitive prices, free delivery and NO SALES TAX!!

I guess if I buy a Kindle Fire while I am in the US I could load all the Apps that would be of interest to me and use them later while I am in Canada (assuming that they are stored on the tablet or in the Cloud - I am new at this Tablet world). I don't care for TV programs or Videos. I would not use the Tablet to play songs either (my A/V receiver is much better!!)

I know I wouldn't be able to load any new Apps for the time that I'm back in Canada but since I am only 45 minutes from the US Border, it may be worth a trip once in a while to get new exciting Apps.

Does my approach makes sense?

I wish we got an "official" answer from someone at Amazon!!

Posted on Sep 29, 2011 7:41:26 AM PDT
Jean Labelle, your approach makes total sense. I'm hoping Amazon will open up their services when they go international which they will have to eventually. I read that 1/2 of iPad sales were in non-US countries and iTunes is available to 64 countries. I have a feeling that a lot of Kindle heavy users are not in the US.

The Cloud will eventually be where we store all our stuff. I have all my documents, emails, contacts and calendar events in the Google cloud. All the photos I want to keep are either in Picasa's cloud or Facebook. Last night I put about 1G of music into the Amazon cloud. It took 4 hours. But hopefully this will be the last time I have to move my music around. Anyone with a lot of music would really appreciate the Cloud Player. How quickly technology changes. Some day my condo will be a pristine white box with no books, DVDs, CDs, or photos. Hmmmmm....

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2011 7:44:14 AM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
They do realize this. But they can only have so many made at one time. Just wait your turn. If you can't wait then buy a different tablet.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2011 7:44:39 AM PDT
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Posted on Sep 29, 2011 7:45:56 AM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff: if you have nothing constructive to say, do us all a favour and say nothing. Ok, sunshine?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2011 7:47:02 AM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Who says they want to compete with Apple? Apple has its fan base and will always have them. It takes time and resources to make these devices. If Amazon waited to release their devices worldwide at the same time they would miss out on the big Christmas shopping season here in the US.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2011 7:50:19 AM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Not bad info at all. A lot of books have been pulled from Amazon in the past few months and only available through Kobo. The government has something to do with it.
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