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Initial post: Nov 10, 2012 4:44:21 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 10, 2012 4:59:46 AM PST
Ronald Pipes says:
Okay, so I just talked to support a bit ago and this is what I was told.

When you "buy" a kindle version movie, the actual file is encrypted and cannot be found on the kindle by browsing the directory structure. Personally, I am more inclined to believe that there is a hidden partition where these files are stored, but the result is that you cannot access the actual movie file. So, you can "watch" the movie on the kindle, or you can "watch" the movie from a browser on a computer, but you cannot access the file, move the file, etc.

The problem is simply this. What if you have to terminate your web access at home, and then your kindle breaks. How do you access your movies? Or say you are in a tight spot financially and need to cut back on bills, so your internet has to go. You place as many movies on the kindle as will fit, but the rest must stay up in Amazon's cloud. But, with no web access, how the heck do you access these movies that you supposedly paid for?

Really, is there no way to just gain access to the file for the movie?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 4:49:41 AM PST
SeaLevel274 says:
It makes perfect sense to me, but then I don't plan on not having Internet access.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 5:08:08 AM PST
You ALWAYS can have web access. There are many places that provide free web access so it would be a stretch to say that you won't ever have web access. Just go to your local library, McDonalds, Starbucks, many freeway reststops, and the list grows every day. It is just a matter of you being flexible.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 5:10:54 AM PST
Ronald Pipes says:
So would you want to go spend the evening at McDonalds with your family, some popcorn, and watch a movie on your laptop? Seriously?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 5:15:10 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 10, 2012 5:16:08 AM PST
K. Rowley says:
A lot of the newer dvds/blurays being sold today come with digital copies that can be put on portable devices - why not just go that route? Or get one of the software packages like CuCuSoft and make your own digital copies from dvds..

I know that the Apple store sells digital movies - are their movies licensed any differently than Amazon's?

Posted on Nov 10, 2012 5:29:11 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 5:39:14 AM PST
You would need to buy a wi drive and use it for one of the copies allowable for download. The KFire would then wirelessly hook up to the wi drive even in the absence of Internet.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 5:39:52 AM PST
Ronald Pipes says:
If I'm not mistaken, when you buy a movie through Apples store, you have full access to the movies file. Even if purchased on the iPhone, once you sync with iTunes, the movie is then stored as an mp4 on your computer.

As for purchasing a DVD, that will be the route that I go, which is no different than what I have done in the past. I guess the point is, what use is the kindle movie? If you have to purchase the physical media just to gain full access to the electronic version, why buy a kindle version at all if you don't have full access and full control over what you supposedly bought?

Think about it like this. You buy a house, and leave in the morning to go to work. When you come home there is now an empty lot. You call your mortgage company and they inform you that, yes....you bought the house, but they keep it safe for you when you are away. So, they send a crew to your empty lot, and build your house for you......again. Then, when you go to work the next day, they come back again, disassemble your house again and haul it off. When you come home, they show back up and rebuild it once again. This happens 5 days a week. On the weekends, whenever you leave your house they haul it off, and bring it back when you come back home. So, in essence, they store your house for you in their version of "the cloud", and you 'download" it whenever you come back home.

Now, this is a bit of an over exaggeration, but you get my point? You want your house there, and left there...right? You bought the house, so you want access to it whenever it is needed. The same goes for anything you buy. If you have a pair of shoes, you don't want to have to go to the storage unit 5 miles down the road whenever you want to wear them. You want to have them in your closet, not someone elses closet, and if you want to change closets in your house, you are at liberty to do so. You have full access and full control over that pair of shoes, which is as it should be.

But, with the kindle version of a movie, that is just not the case at all. You have only partial access, and there are stipulations on that access, and you in no way have full control. How is it that you have only partial control, and what amounts to only partial access, for something that you have paid for and supposedly own?

Posted on Nov 10, 2012 5:51:21 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 10, 2012 5:51:47 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
the Kindle is used more as a video rental system

Posted on Nov 10, 2012 6:09:20 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
If I am so broke I can't afford internet access, watching movies would be low on my priority list.

Posted on Nov 10, 2012 6:32:12 AM PST
K. E. Riser says:
but what if you are traveling in an airplane or car and don't have wi fi access. You can't watch your movie that you paid for?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 6:35:40 AM PST
**Meya** says:
How do you expect to be able to, if the movie isn't downloaded on the device?

WiFi isn't magic.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 6:42:12 AM PST
That's why you download the movie to the device *before* you get on the plane. Personally, unless it's an intercontinental flight, I'd rather read on a plane anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 6:42:35 AM PST
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Just Peachy says:
They you do something else and watch the movie at a later time.

ETA: There was a time when we had to go to a movie theater to watch a movie!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 6:43:54 AM PST
You either download to the device or a wi drive which will allow several devices to connect at once.
Kingston makes a great one and the newest getting the most tech buzz is the Guardian- no Fire app yet for the Guardian.

Posted on Nov 10, 2012 6:47:37 AM PST
This is why Amazon should have stuck with ereaders.

Posted on Nov 10, 2012 7:11:59 AM PST
Dittie says:
It would be nice to be able to sideload a file that's already been downloaded to a computer.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 7:17:20 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
they already allow that - I sideload files all the time

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 7:25:44 AM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
That is why I buy DVD's and rip them to my computer. That way I always have them available.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 7:25:47 AM PST
Dittie says:
If I understand the OP correctly and movie files can't actually be found, that sort of complicates things.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 7:29:08 AM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
The last movie I saw at the theater was the final movie of the Lord of the Rings. I would rather wait for the movie to come out to DVD and then get it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012 7:37:28 AM PST
Just Peachy says:
I prefer not to go the movies but I don't watch many movies at home either. But remember as a kid when your choice was what was playing at the theater (if you were lucky enough to be able to get there and have money for a ticket) or what was on the one or two TV Channels at home (IF you parents let you watch it).

I think the OP should consider buying the DVD like you do - then rip it and copy to wherever you want.

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