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Initial post: Aug 22, 2013 2:11:20 PM PDT
My kindle is getting full and I thought I would store some on the cloud. Could cloud crash and lose forever purchased items. How does it work?

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 2:13:18 PM PDT
Bixillarla says:
Every item you purchase from Amazon is automatically stored in the Cloud. The Cloud is just the term for the servers at Amazon. There is no chance that you lose anything from there.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 2:14:22 PM PDT
A. Dietz says:
All of the Kindle content you've bought from amazon.com is already stored in your archive/cloud at Amazon for free. Content belongs to your account, not to an individual device. You can delete content from your Kindle and retrieve it again later if it's content you bought from Amazon. Now there are no promises if there's a zombie apocalypse, but other than that, your cloud storage is safe.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 2:17:45 PM PDT
Miss Carol says:
Wait - I HAVE to be able to read my kindle during a zombie apocalypse - I have to be able to download my zombie survival guides! ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 2:19:06 PM PDT
 Ann says:
Books you buy from Amazon are automatically stored in your account (aka Cloud or Archive) for you. You can just remove books from your Kindle, and they will remain in your account should you ever want to download and read them again.

Click "Your Account" at the top of any Amazon page, then click "Manage Your Kindle". You'll see all the books in your account listed there. Your Kindle books can be downloaded at any time, to any Kindle or Kindle app that you register to your account.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 2:32:41 PM PDT
Artist says:
Then download them now. That's what I've done. :-)

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 2:43:49 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 22, 2013 2:44:56 PM PDT
You need to read uo on cloud. It is not as benign as you think. If you buy a book at store, a DVD or cd they are yours. Any "item" in cloud does NOT belong to you. You only have the right to listen, or read, or look at whatever you "purchased". Anything in cloud can be deleted by a sophisticated hacker or by Amazon ,or Apple, or whatever,you have no way of keeping your stuff. Cloud idea scares me.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 2:46:51 PM PDT
"If you buy a book at store, a DVD or cd they are not yours."

Not that it's even relevant, but that doesn't actually make sense.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 2:46:59 PM PDT
Artist says:
Unless Amazon's records are totally erased (which I doubt because they have lots of servers), we'll always be able to get our books back as long as they still exist somewhere in digital form.

If your house burns down, your physical book, DVD, or CD can be lost. If my house burns down, my books are not lost. Half empty, half full. You decide for yourself how to look at the issue.

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 2:59:47 PM PDT
Here's the problem. We still have very old books written centuries ago. What if Amazon went broke, or we had a terrible worldwide catastrophe, where would our " books" be? Because of this new technology everything is expendable and there are people who worry that we will leave nothing to future historians. All I am saying is you do not own ANYTHING you download.

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 3:06:48 PM PDT
JoshuaJohn says:
Whether my glass is half full or half empty I know as almost time for another beer.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 3:10:47 PM PDT
Artist says:
So, half empty then.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 3:43:22 PM PDT
A. Dietz says:
Katharine said: Cloud idea scares me.

OMG, what are you doing here then? Run home, lock the doors, duct tape the cracks around the doors and windows. My god woman, save yourself!

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 3:52:36 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 22, 2013 3:52:50 PM PDT
If a flash flood swallows my ground floor with all my books floating away in the swirling morass, I lose those forever, too.

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 3:59:39 PM PDT
Charlie says:
Hopefully, we would notice if Amazon was getting ready to go out of business and shut down -- even just going bankrupt is not likely to disrupt cloud services.

SamBenMom and Katharine, you might wander over the Barnes and Noble forums and see what people are doing about that possibility, which at this moment seems much more likely to happen to B&N.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 4:03:24 PM PDT
A. Dietz says:
Especially with the earnings report released today, Barnes & Noble reported a loss of $87 million in the last quarter, and it attributed about $54.6 million of that to its Nook unit.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 4:17:22 PM PDT
If we had a terrible world wide catastrophe I doubt that I would be too worried about my romance novels. I think I would be more concerned about food and stuff like that.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 4:20:07 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
You should have those memorized. Don't wait until the last minute...

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 4:24:33 PM PDT
King Al says:
The odds of that happening is much less than a thief breaking into your house and stealing your paper books.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 4:25:26 PM PDT
King Al says:
As The Artist said, what if your house burns down?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 4:28:38 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
A hacker is not going to be able to do it because all of these companies have back ups to their back ups. Personally I don't worry about any of this. I download all of my electronic media and store them myself. If I ever need to I can remove the DRM very easily and still have access to all of my content.

Posted on Aug 22, 2013 6:54:46 PM PDT
Let's see.......the fact that China hacks us all the time, that we have no privacy, that you don't own what you buy doesn't worry you just a little. A woman from Norway bought a Kindle in England, took it home, ordered some books, and because of that Amazon deleted every book in her library. She got them back but it shows how vulnerable we are. I guess you know that sarcasm is humor in its lowest form.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 7:06:22 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 7:34:04 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 22, 2013 7:36:24 PM PDT
KAragon says:
The lady in Norway was buying from the UK store in violation of the terms of service. Geo restrictions may be incredibly frustrating for both consumers and retailers but the retailers have to honor their contracts.

Regardless, she did not lose her books but her UK kindle account was closed to further purchases.

ETC spelling

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2013 7:35:04 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 22, 2013 7:35:52 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
What KAragon said....
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