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Was KFHD suppose to compete against iPad?


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Initial post: Jan 8, 2013 6:11:41 AM PST
MMF says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:16:02 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 8, 2013 6:17:04 AM PST
Where did you ever see Amazon advertise the Fire as a replacement or competition for an iPad?

You didn't. Because it wasn't.

But, I have to ask. Your comment about "functionality" is confusing. You can't add Flash to an iPad either, they have never supported Flash. On the Fire, you can install the Dolphin browser, and load Flash under it. iPads are very locked down.

Posted on Jan 8, 2013 6:20:41 AM PST
willsnana says:
No it wasn't. Should have done a comparison of the two products before you bought the device. If you don't like it, send it back.

Posted on Jan 8, 2013 6:24:38 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 8, 2013 6:25:29 AM PST
MMF says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:26:30 AM PST
It is hardly Amazon's doing that a writer in the UK took that opinion. Amazon has never marketed the Fire as an iPad replacement.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:26:32 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 8, 2013 6:28:07 AM PST
J. Gatie says:
Did you really just try to compare the Fire to an iPad by mentioning Flash support??? No iDevices have ever had Flash, even when Flash was the most dominant streaming medium around. It is a sad, pitiful, amateur Apple troll who does no research. *rolleyes*

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:30:48 AM PST
MMF says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:32:51 AM PST
MMF says:
Google it, and you see it yourself. Remember the old business slogan, "the customer is always right"? Even if she' s wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:35:05 AM PST
Nah. Have a nice day.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:35:42 AM PST
J. Gatie says:
So your iPad is a better product because you *assumed* the Fire could do something the iPad couldn't? Even for an Apple apologist, that's some seriously convoluted logic.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:39:18 AM PST
J. Gatie says:
You obviously have never been behind the scenes in a customer oriented business. The customer is by no means always right. Matter of fact, the customer is often a complete pain in the behind whom you just want to go away. Even if it means losing a sale, you rid yourself of a customer who is never going to be satisfied and is going to do nothing but complain. Better to excise them and let them complain about a competitor.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:39:43 AM PST
MMF - You can easily install Flash.

Adobe stopped supporting Flash on all Android devices (not just the Fire) in August 2012. Amazon can't provide it.

To install Flash: (You have to have a Flash compatible browser in order to install Flash. You can't install it under Silk.)

Do the following on the Fire / Fire HD itself:

Swipe down from the top > More > Device > Allow Installation of Applications.

*Install ES File Explorer: ES File Explorer

Download and install the Dolphin HD and Flash Player apk files from this link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9d8gxh75f0747f1/83fV5m6x2c

Once both files are downloaded to your Fire, open ES File Explorer and look in the "Downloads" folder. You should see both files there.

Install Dolphin HD *first* by tapping on the icon. Then Install Flash by tapping on the icon.

*Note that the .apk file for ES File Explorer has been added to the Dropbox link. If you have any trouble with ES File Explorer from the Amazon App Store, use that.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:39:44 AM PST
MMF says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:42:03 AM PST
MMF says:
I am no Apple apologist...just pointing out one feature which should have been included in the basic settings: vpn

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:42:27 AM PST
Surveyah says:
"As far if Amazon designed KFHD to compete in tablet wars, the public & media perceived it to be a competitor. Just Google it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/9529802/Amazon-launches-new-Kindle-Fire-to-compete-with-iPad.html"

"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
― Aldous Huxley

perception does not equate reality.....

Posted on Jan 8, 2013 6:43:33 AM PST
I don't think that KFHD was ever supposed to compete with Idevices... Think about it. Read the specs. Look at the price difference between the fires and the ipads. KFHD is not anything like an Ipad. It's certainly a fine tablet for it's advertised use. I wanted a reader, occasional web browser, and maybe every now and then a video. The KF works fine for that. If I wanted full computing power, with VPN, and remote access, I'd have bought an Ipad or another tablet. The best thing about these devices is, that full specs and reviews are online. It's your choice whether or not to inform yourself before purchasing the device that will do the most for you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:45:39 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 8, 2013 6:46:08 AM PST
J. Gatie says:
Please try to keep up . . . I said nothing about VPN. I was speaking of the incredible mental gymnastics used to state the iPad is a better product because you assumed the Fire could do Flash, which the iPad cannot. Convoluted logic like that is part and parcel of an Apple apologist.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:45:43 AM PST
I have an iPad and a Fire HD and I love both of them, but use them for very different things. My iPad is my workhorse and I use it for work and production. My Fire is for entertainment--reading, music, videos, surfing, etc. It's much easier to carry around and use with one hand. Can they both do much the same thing? Yep! But it's not an either or for me, I like them both for different reasons.

Amazon has a fantastic return policy. Send the Fire back if it's not what you want and get a device that will work for you. Why keep something you're not happy with?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:45:53 AM PST
MMF says:
Thanks...now that's the kind of reply I was seeking from this discussion.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:45:53 AM PST
SeaLevel274 says:
From my perspective, the Fire is designed to consume Amazon content - books, apps, music, video - plus some things like browse the web, and it does all of those things just fine. It really isn't intended for someone that wants it to be much more than that. It's not really a replacement for a laptop.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:47:25 AM PST
MMF says:
Never said that; I know Apple doesn't support flash. Was only pointing out example of need.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:49:23 AM PST
MMF says:
Agreed; think they could have allowed vpn and ability to utilize Google apps too...it would have broaden their market a bit more.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:50:51 AM PST
MMF says:
But, it's perception that sells a product.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:51:52 AM PST
King Al says:
Including these features (especially access to Google Play) would have increased the price.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 8, 2013 6:54:50 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 8, 2013 6:56:46 AM PST
J. Gatie says:
Again, puh-leeze. You stated the Fire's lack of Flash makes it inferior to a device which also doesn't have Flash. When your silly logic was pointed out, you said "I figured I'd have more control (ie. installation of flash) with this device vice Apples tablet." In other words, you assumed the Fire had something the iPad does not, and declared it inferior because of this, which is absurd. It's like saying "I thought this model of Mercedes came with a pickup bed, which my Lexus does not have, so the Mercedes is flawed."
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