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Initial post: Feb 23, 2010 4:55:55 PM PST
mark7432 says:
I would like to either speed up or add ram to my Samsung NC10-14G netbook. One option is to replace my 1Gb RAM with a 2GB RAM. Would plugging in a 4GB or 8GB flash memory drive also do this. It certainly would be less money. Please let me know thanks mark7432

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 23, 2010 9:23:14 PM PST
Erik Clyman says:
i think you want something like this
2GB Upgrade for a Samsung NC10-14G System (DDR2 PC2-6400, NON-ECC, )
a flash drive is for memory (like the hard drive) instead of ram
however, i'm not super sure your gonna have that much faster of a computer, you see netbooks are low performance, but make up for it with long battery life.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 24, 2010 2:47:12 AM PST
Steve says:
Can't speed those things up. They are basic all the way. I went from 1GB to 2GB and got NO difference. It's just a limitation of the machine.

Posted on Feb 24, 2010 6:41:31 AM PST
bjm says:
I did the 1Gb to 2Gb upgrade on my Lenovo S10. Honestly it's difficult to see the improvement, although I understand it does help if you are running several applications at the same time. The netbook is definitely a handy little device, great for travel, but not particularly fast.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 24, 2010 8:56:13 AM PST
If your hard drive is user replaceable you could go to a 7200 rpm hard drive, but it will cost you some battery life.

If you are running Vista on your netbook, you will do bettwr with WIndows 7 pro.

I saw no performance improvement with a flash drive in boost mode.

Posted on Feb 24, 2010 10:30:15 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 24, 2010 10:31:40 AM PST
i would try ReadyBoost in win7. if anything it will probably boot up quicker. the RAM upgrade... well i didnt see a significant improvement. it never goes above 40% meaning it rarely if ever needs 2GB of RAM.

who runs vista on a netbook? i dont even think thats possible.

What i do recommend though is doing a fresh install of win7 if you want a performance boost. getting rid of all those uneeded start-ups and programs running in the background will help you out significantly.

Posted on Feb 24, 2010 2:07:48 PM PST
- remove everything you don't need via the programs list, be ruthless.
- put on minimal but complete security -- MSE works very well. Remove every other program that monitors system behavior to "help" you. You do need the initial live scan of everything downloaded or executable. You don't need anything else.
- the 2 gigs will make a difference, but not on everything (but do it anyway -- this is more about not having it choke so much, than giving you a speedy box)
- as another posteder noted, 7200 RPM drives are WAY cheaper than SSDs and this will give you 5-10% boost
- if you are on Vista or Win7, get a very small USB thumb drive (they come tiny) -- 2 or 4 gigs -- and devote it to Readiboost. This will make a huge difference.
- turn off hard drive indexing unless you really, really need it -- and restrict it to the very few directories you care about if it must (truly must) be on.
- turn off system recovery. Back the machine off using good backup software and call it good. System recovery is an ongoing overhead for your tiny, hardworking processor and HD.

If you've done all that and no joy -- time for a new computer :} Doing these things will make a difference though...it might slow up when you make it do something hard, but it will stop coming to a halt for no perceptible reason.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 24, 2010 8:17:33 PM PST
Jim Melton says:
If you get "outside ram for your netbook, it will go thru' your USB port.
That's alot slower than the installed ram. Just something to think about. USB, even USB 2.0 is slower in speed than the installed RAM.
Go for a fast and bigger ram, like a gamers ram at 2 gigs, or the biggest your puter can take. Look at the book that came with you netbook, and see what you can upgrade to...

Posted on Feb 24, 2010 8:25:50 PM PST
Jim Melton says:
I have an HP Presario CQ60 and it rocks in speed. I installed games that need processor
speed, video performance and ram. I have no problems with speed, wether I'm online or playing video games. Of course I prefer my Xbox 360, but my netbook just rocks it. Make sure you keep up on your maintenence, like dsk defrag and cleaning up your files. Those things help alot. Make sure you have no spyware on your machine, that slows everything down. Install Spybot S&D, and that does a great job. Hope this helps ya out...

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 27, 2010 9:17:05 AM PST
dr says:
Serious question to ALL participants in this forum.
Very serious question.
How much faster would a Win 7 equipped computer be with 4 GB of RAM compared to a XP with only 1 GB of RAM, assuming they both are comparably equipped otherwise with a modern dual core processor, etc?
Does anyone know first hand?

Posted on Mar 1, 2010 4:38:15 PM PST
for samsung nc10, the CPU is the one holding down the overall performance, not the ram (even if it is 1gb).
I wouldn't upgrade RAM.
if you have some flash drive around though, you can use it for readyboost
that might help a little bit in terms of virtual memory.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 1, 2010 4:57:02 PM PST
dr says:
you have a HP Presario CQ60 that rocks?
is that a Compaq CQ60?
or is it the same model as the HP?
what configuration do you have?

Posted on Mar 3, 2010 9:02:39 AM PST
Daddy NJ says:
I have an Asus eeePC900 that was running XP which was slow as a dog. Froze regularly, very sluggish, couldn't even keep up with keystrokes. I installed ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix (NBR) - which was a pain in the butt to do - but now it's totally transformed. No sluggishness, no lag and for what I use it for (skype, streaming video, web) it's very useable now - still with the same 900mhz/1gb setup. I highly recommend switching to Ubuntu if you have some tech savvy and want to inject new life into an ageing machine. It's proven totally stable (no crashes at all after 3 weeks of running) - all the 'buttons' work fine, video out is fine, etc. etc. UI is very intuitive. Even made the trackpad better as I can now do two-finger-scrolling, or set a scrolling sidebar.

The only downside is that VLC does not work properly for all content. The included media player is fine - but VLC seems to have problems with audio. It also took little while (2-3 hours) and some surfing/fiddling to join my windows homegroup and be able to share the files on my two win 7 computers.

Since I have two win 7 machines (media server and 17"laptop) - and have zero bad to say about them - you can see I'm not an microsoft hater or a linux fanboy - it's just that for very low power machines linux seems to work better. And with a machine with that kind of power it's unlikely you're going to be doing much more than surfing and skyping anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 9:30:36 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 3, 2010 9:39:13 AM PST
dr says:
I also bought an Asus 9" netbook, after seeing glowing reviews, but I found it just too small, too inadequate in many ways, so I returned it to Amazon for a refund. Asus was a pioneer in netbooks its true, and they deserve great credit for that, but they put their brand name on and sold a huge number of netbooks in those days, that were very marginal computers. Whereas more established companies would not put their brand name on those kinds of marginal computers in those days until they evolved into something that were much more usable to the computer user. The more established companies had their reputations to protect, so they waited to put their brand name on computers there were usable.
While I have not bought an Asus computer since, and I am not at all familiar with their current offerings, which may be much better than the Asus computer I bought, for all I know, I remain somewhat skeptical of the company's products, despite some glowing reviews of their bells and whistles.
This is why I favor brands with enough of a track record where Consumers Report has done some statistical research on their reliability.
This is not an absolute fool proof test of relative reliability, but it is far better than anecdotal postings by individuals. Postings tend to very highly biased in favor of the particular computer that the poster just bought. People love to show how smart they were by buying this particular computer that they just bought, but I don't think these glowing postings are reliable evidence of quality or relative value.
Once burned, twice shy.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 9:35:41 AM PST
WolfPup says:
Asus is statistically the most reliable brand, and they're one of the most established tech brands around too...

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 9:49:25 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 3, 2010 9:53:59 AM PST
dr says:
Asus may make excellent computers now that are the best values. I really don't know.
I would not dispute it.
I have learned from experience that customer postings of great praise are not a reliable indication that a computer is an excellent buy. It is too anecdotal. Not a scientific sampling. And buyers love to praise their own choice of computer, because it shows how smart they were to buy that computer. Understandable, but not to be relied upon.
In terms of statistical analysis of reliability. In so far as any of them can be trusted at all,
I would look at Consumers Union. But I look at all of this with great skepticism.
There is an enormous amount of misinformation and hype in the computer field, because it is so difficult to understand for most people.
You don't always get what you pay for. Life doesn't always go better with Coke. etc.
we need to cut through the hype.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 9:51:14 AM PST
WolfPup says:
It's not just random people. Multiple people have already pointed out the report that places them first.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 10:04:51 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 3, 2010 10:06:26 AM PST
dr says:
There are something like 85 million PCs being sold yearly at the current sales rate. That is a huge number.
So multiple people reporting an industry statistical report of reliability is not statistically significant.
Consumers' Report is not an industry organization. They do not take any money from the manufacturers.
They do not take advertising. And their statistical surveys survey a huge number of customers.
While Consumers Report is not necessarily error free, I have no idea about the statistical methods and/or company biases of any other measure of reliability.
Not seeing the hard evidence of scientific methods of other measures of reliability, I look at Consumers Report. Consumer Reports says that there is not enough data yet to reach a scientific conclusion on the relative reliability of differences in the reliability of different brands of netbooks. Asus has always been a major player in netbooks, although they produce other products as well of course.
CR does not show that Asus is the most reliable computer manufacturer.
When Consumers Reports says that their work shows Asus is the most reliable, I would look at that.
Up until now they have not said that.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 10:08:01 AM PST
WolfPup says:
We've been through this! MULTIPLE people have already explained this to you.

They haven't said it BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE DATA YET. Their data almost exactly parallels data from that other report, which further strengthens it's credibility. This is not random people saying it as you keep claiming.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 10:24:55 AM PST
dr says:
I need to disagree with you with what is scientific, statistically significant, etc.
The fact that a few people make postings sighting an industry survey of reliability does not mean anything at all to me. It could be only "monkey see, monkey do."
some posters are just repeating the same survey scuttlebutt.
so what?
means nothing to me.
carry on to whatever else you were doing.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 10:27:07 AM PST
dr says:
Wolfie,
sounds like you really were into "Simple Simon says"
kids games, and you never got over it.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 3, 2010 10:52:02 AM PST
WolfPup says:
Geez. The point is the REPORT. I'm pointing out many people have already told you about it, so you can't keep claiming ignorance.

It's REALLY hard to believe you're not just a troll.
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