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Initial post: Apr 17, 2012 9:09:58 AM PDT
WolfPup says:
Apple doesn't do a super great job supporting their older OSes, and Steve Gibson last week pointed out that Apple's NOT fixing security flaws in 10.5 and older which allow that botnet to infect Macs.

I wasn't sure where the cut off was, but...you really shouldn't be using an unsupported OS on the internet (and for that matter, be careful about transferring stuff on disks too!)

In the case of OS X, that means you really MUST have 10.6 or 10.7. In the case of Windows that means you really MUST have Windows XP or newer (through 2014 anyway). In the case of iOS it means you must have iOS 5...and of course in all cases, be sure to use Apple or Windows update to keep everything patched up.

That goes for third party programs too, like Firefox, Adobe's Flash, etc. (Flash is especially annoying to check to make sure you're running the newest, though you can check here:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Posted on Apr 17, 2012 9:27:29 AM PDT
Kort says:
I run 10.4.11 at work and have not had any security issues -- though my office has a good firewall and block many questionable sites, ...and I know where not to go. But that is not the casual user either.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 17, 2012 10:58:23 AM PDT
WolfPup says:
Yeah, and even still you're at risk-and wouldn't necessarily even know if you've been taken over.

They REALLY shouldn't have people working that way, but I'm guessing they're stingy with actually providing safe equipment...I know how that goes LOL I've got a several year old Dell that was running several year old low end hardware when they bought it new lol (It works fine, and it runs 24/7, but still)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 17, 2012 11:04:13 AM PDT
Kort says:
I know.
I've been asking for an upgrade for some time now, but that would require new Adobe and Quark software too, and they're dragging their feet.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 17, 2012 11:08:34 AM PDT
WolfPup says:
oh crud, argh, I hate when stuff's not backwards compatible.

Posted on Apr 24, 2012 1:32:35 PM PDT
Agreed!

p

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 7:53:58 PM PDT
Zetau says:
@WolfPup

Could you please provide substantiation to back up your claim?

Also, Flash *may* not be around sometime in the near future. It's easy to program, and therefore, it's too easy to exploit. I cannot substantiate that as I don't recall where I heard it.

Posted on May 14, 2012 8:00:53 PM PDT
Kort says:
I have to say that my using 10.4.11 has not impacted the security of my company these past couple of years any more than the computers running Windows 7. If anything my system is the most trouble free. There may be security holes there, but nobody is actively trying to exploit them. At least not when a semi-knowledgeable person is using the computer.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 6:16:26 AM PDT
WolfPup says:
What claim?

And Flash isn't going anywhere, at least not in the "near future".

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 6:19:14 AM PDT
WolfPup says:
<<<Kort says:
I have to say that my using 10.4.11 has not impacted the security of my company these past couple of years>>>

Of course it has. Of course presumably you're properly firewalled, and if people aren't really browsing the web from them, the risk isn't as huge, but still, it's not something any company that understand security would be allowing, let alone what an individual user should do.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 7:21:25 AM PDT
Kort says:
Well, I have little choice in the matter, though some sort of upgrade looks like it on the horizon. That said, my terminal has never been compromised by viruses or malware while many of the Windows machines had been. I think I got some sort of 'worm' back around 2002 on an older Mac clone, but that was it. Intelligent use of the web counts for a lot, and of course the firewall helps. So by impacted, I mean my computer and usage of it has never been a problem to my company. Others have though.

Posted on May 15, 2012 9:07:08 AM PDT
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/14/software_updates_bring_flashback_removal_flash_disabling_to_os_x_leopard.html

About an update that brings leopard up to lion standards for certain security issues.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 11:13:15 AM PDT
Zetau says:
@ WolfPup

What claim?! How about your subject line and entire post.

Flash isn't going anywhere?! It's all but gone:

http://www.macnews.com/2011/11/10/gregs-bite-steve-jobs-wins-flash-discontinued

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/27328/

Posted on May 15, 2012 11:27:25 AM PDT
Flash is all but dead. At least in Apple's world. Adobe thanked apple for their new update to Safari that actually shuts flash out.
I think there's an option to let it run though.
Flash is too vulnerable, it's how the Mac got it's biggest infection, although 600,000 machines aren't that much.
Glad Apple took care of that.

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 10:48:53 AM PDT
WolfPup says:
Huh? Flash isn't "all but gone". What the heck are you talking about? Or is this just more trolling?

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 12:16:00 PM PDT
No, WP, nobody is trolling. Do you recall SJ's open letter about flash?
Flash is trash.
It's all but gone in Apple's ecosystem, and now mark our words, it will be gone eventually in Windows world as well.
It's an open back door for malware.
Someone, if not Adobe, will come forward with something better.
Just a matter of time is all.
(Heck, I'm not gonna do it, but I can read the writing on the wall).

p

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 11:07:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 17, 2012 11:08:10 PM PDT
WolfPup says:
<<<Peter Wojciechowski says:
No, WP, nobody is trolling. Do you recall SJ's open letter about flash?
Flash is trash.>>>

That Zet guy's been trolling for days. And how is "flash trash". It doesn't show any signs of going anywhere in the medium term. 5, 10 years from now? Who knows, but definitely not "short term" like the troll claims.

<<<It's all but gone in Apple's ecosystem>>>

No it isn't. Apple's monopolistic control of the iOS market means it's not on iOS, but it's certainly not going anywhere anytime soon. And that's my loss as an iOS user, not anything to cheer about.

<<<It's an open back door for malware.>>>

No more than any other program is-and the OS itself.

<<<Just a matter of time is all.>>>

Microsoft has a competitor, but it's not used for much except Netflix's streaming on PCs, and some Microsoft sites. I don't see how a competitor can do much, given not even Microsoft was able to compete.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 11:06:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 11:10:50 AM PDT
OldAmazonian says:
Great reasons all to eschew MS and Apple in favor of learning the best:

http://www.amazon.com/forum/ubuntu

http://www.amazon.com/forum/linux

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2012 4:35:16 AM PDT
D. Kneeland says:
OldAmazonian says:
<<<Great reasons all to eschew MS and Apple in favor of learning the best:>>>

I hate to break it to you but Linux has even had it's share of vulnerabilities including a botnet trojan last year or more. It's like Kort said about intelligent use counting for a lot. Ultimately the os is the os and it's what you do with it that really counts, or maybe what you don't allow others to do.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2012 6:33:29 AM PDT
Kort says:
Excellent point D. :]

Posted on Aug 1, 2012 3:05:42 PM PDT
R. M. Aarons says:
PowerPC-based Macs can't use any Mac OS later than 10.5. (They can, however, use Linux.)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 1, 2012 7:33:32 PM PDT
WolfPup says:
Oooh, good suggestion! If there are still up to date Linux distributions for PowerPC, those should be safe to use.

Posted on Aug 5, 2012 12:43:51 AM PDT
I'lbcnu says:
sounds to me like the thread starter has a bit of a chicken little syndrome going on , also known as the sky is falling syndrome .

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2012 3:21:52 PM PDT
D. Kneeland says:
I'lbcnu says:
<<<sounds to me like the thread starter has a bit of a chicken little syndrome going on , also known as the sky is falling syndrome .>>>

Well it's pretty sound advice. Using a unsupported os online has it's risks. In the past couple months you've had SabPub and OSX/Crisis targeting OSX 10.6 and 10.7. Without dedicated support for an os or applications there's really no telling what you could have and no assurances that there's an effective fix.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2012 3:29:07 PM PDT
Zetau says:
Apple did release a Security fix for 10.5 some months ago.
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