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Initial post: Jul 20, 2011 8:05:59 AM PDT
thought this might be something new and different: do you find yourself agreeing more frequently with any reviewer, be it magazine, online reviewer such as angrymetalguy.net, or from other sources, more than you do with others? if so, please share. or feel free not to. just wanted a different sort of topic.

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 8:24:13 AM PDT
A customer says:
I never found a reviewer that I agree with on all fronts, and I probably never will.
Noktorn from metal-archives comes to mind, but even then, he despises Razorback Records, which I'm a huge fan of. I also like reading reviews on anus.com, but I don't know who writes them.

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 9:11:02 AM PDT
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Posted on Jul 20, 2011 9:22:09 AM PDT
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andy: d.d. says:
I used to get decibel. Their reviews are hard to decipher. They usually have two paragraphs and the first is filled with such mumble-jumble I didn't even know what they were talking about. Then the second told you pretty much what other bands this band sounded like. I quit getting it.

I got outburn for awhile too and there was a reviewer who was no nonsense and I liked his choice of music; but, as they got more "fill in the blank"core. He seemed to disappear. He showed up in decibel; but, didn't fit to their style of reviewing and didn't become a regular. If I think of his name, I'll post it. I can't find it looking on the net. I never kept the old mags, so I doubt I'll remember his name.

The allmusic guide is a great review source on albums that have been around awhile; but, they're not very indepth with newer metal releases.

The problem now is that you can google any album and find someone, somewhere who thinks it's great. Plus, everything on amazon is 5 star or only one person reviewed it and gave it 1 star; for stupid reasons.

Search hard and listen is the most dependable way, I've found, to get an opinion.

EDIT: It came to me, dudes name was shawn macomber and generally if he gave something a really good review, it was worth checking out. He honked for grind and hardcore releases the most. Maybe he's writing more for decibel now. I wouldn't know. I canceled that awhile ago.

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 11:39:21 AM PDT
wippernaut says:
I pretty much never agreed with a review in a magazine, i.e. Terrorizer, Metalhammer, Decibel, and especially Revolver lol. I still get Decibel, though I don't really read the reviews. I never liked the reviews on metal archives, honestly my favorite reviews for albums are here on amazon, plus you can comment on them. My favorite reviewers on here have to be A Dinosaur-Shaped Car "Homosexual Porn" and A. Stutheit "Teyad" heh...

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 12:04:51 PM PDT
A customer says:
I agree that amazon reviews are a lot of fun to read, and I do like that feedback can be left for them. I think I'm gonna start reviewing here again. I deleted all my reviews before, but they were substandard anyway. It's time for me to make a comeback.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 20, 2011 12:24:45 PM PDT
andy: d.d. says:
Do those decibel reviews drive you nuts like they do me? I can read one over and over and never figure out if they liked the album or not.

A. Stutheit "Teyad" is everywhere.

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 1:17:25 PM PDT
wippernaut says:
Hahaha totally man, trying to be all metaphorical and compare it to some obscure band that most readers don't know (like me usually lol) I really don't like how they only have one rating on each album, they should have multiple ratings.

God he is... I feel like emailing him sometime.
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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 20, 2011 1:32:41 PM PDT
andy: d.d. says:
I've seen them blast (I think, the number's low) an album and then it ends up in their top fifty; next to albums they rated higher during the year; while, leaving out other albums they had rated higher; than the one they blasted.

I gave em up.

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 1:52:17 PM PDT
mitch says:
decibel blows entirely, so does revolver. select reviews on metal-archives are usually helpful, though I have spotted some albums were every review is just way off--seems like one person reviews it then everyone else just follows suit with that opinion, kinda lame.

Posted on Jul 24, 2011 6:52:41 AM PDT
Carrion Kind says:
...I thoroughly enjoy reading reviews of albums that I am either well acquainted with, would like to know more about or have no interest in at all...It's usually an enjoyable experience for me, even if I don't agree 100% (which I don't often do, but there are usually some agreeable points, regardless of the review)...

...As far as Amazon reviews go, they're not trustworthy IMO, as they tend to either be 5 star or 1 star reviews, and you just can't trust extremism like that...Very few albums deserve 5 stars (not to say there aren't plenty of albums that do) and the over-the-top fanboy accolades that go with them...Same goes for the 1 star reviews, these same/similar people usually decry an album for silly and/or personal reasons, with no real basis as far as musical criteria is concerned...However, I think it's fun to read reviews here for those very reasons, especially when I am familiar with whichever album happens to be up on the chopping block and I can either laugh in hilarious disagreement or nod my head in an affirmative 'yes', this person knows what they're talking about...

...Reading reviews in a magazine like Decibel, Terrorizer, Revolver, Metal Maniacs, etc is great, as they tend to be short, whereas reviews here or on other online sites/forums tend to ramble on a bit as there's no accounting for size of article and the space it might take up...That being said, I think the OP and someone else chimed in about some of these magazine reviews going off on tangents or coming out of left field, basically being obtuse for no reason...Leaves with no better idea of the album's contents than when you began to read the review in the first place...

...It's the same with Metal Archives or similar sites...Someone gives it 80-100%, then the next reviewer gives it 30-50%...Too much vacillation, like Amazon, is reason to not base a purchase on a review alone...Multiple reviews for something that hovers consistently around a particular moderate percentage tend to be more trustworthy to me...

...Meh, in the end though, we're all bound to get burned more than a few times on something, even when the reviewer seemed to know they're stuff...Also, I've taken chances on an album that suffered from a poor review more than a few times over the years and have been blown away, or at least pleasantly surprised...Sometimes you just have a feeling about a band/album that it will be to your liking, even when reviews go against it, or even take to bashing it...It's a game...

Posted on Jul 24, 2011 7:05:51 AM PDT
A customer says:
"Very few albums deserve 5 stars"
You have to take rounding into account. 1-5 stars is tantamount to an increment of 20%, 40%, 60%, 80% and 100%. Say you would give an album a 90% rating. Since amazon lacks 1/2 stars, it would be in your interest to round up. My point is, a 5 star review doesn't necessarily imply perfection.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2011 7:49:42 AM PDT
This is exactly what makes reviewing albums on amazon so hard...because of that leeway room. The only time I give fives is when I think the album is say around 95% or better, other wise everything else falls into loosely defined 20 percent packages...it's not perfect, but you can get your point across even on amazon. I HOPE people disagree with me when they read my reviews, I like to give my opinion and hear others, I don't like to be THE opinion. Though it's cool when people do agree sometimes, because there is plenty of common ground to be had on tons of albums. But as Carrion Kind points out, amazon is always 1 or 5 star reviews, pure hate or rampant fanboy crap...metal-archives isn't much better, it's just that you can see reviews on more obscure stuff, but the rating flaws still exist. Over there one person rates something cool or stupid and tons of people follow suit.

Posted on Jul 24, 2011 8:02:39 AM PDT
A customer says:
Not always. Enmity's Vile Engorgement album is split down the middle between 0-5% reviews and 95-100% reviews on metal-archives, which I find fascinating (probably the most dividing album on the whole site). It's also a little unfair to automatically dismiss 1 star and 5 star reviews, as oftentimes the reviewer actually validates it with intelligently expressed reasoning.

Posted on Jul 24, 2011 12:25:27 PM PDT
S. Kile says:
This is more about the comments on reviews:
I find it annoying when they make fun of you and your comment, its both childish and stupid, some people should get a life and not take their opinions so seriously, everybody is entitled to an opinion

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2011 2:58:10 PM PDT
Carrion Kind says:
...It's true, Amazon reviews don't allow the ability to give 1/2 stars, so I am sure there are numerous occasions when a review is listed as 5 stars, but perhaps in the mind of the reviewer it was closer to a 4 1/2, 4 1/4 star review...But, not being able to be in the minds of these people, it's hard to know when they don't express this in the review (I like when people do mention this, adds more clarity and depth to the review)...

Posted on Jul 24, 2011 4:31:18 PM PDT
L. Bazan says:
Pretty much all the people who review Papa Roach or Disturbed albums. They love to argue how all their music is some how better cause it's more popular. If anything most things that are popular nowadays suck beyond belief. I'd rather listen to Justin Bieber than either of those bands but I think most of these people just haven't been enlightened into what real metal is. It's either those jerks or kult fanatics who don't listen to anything that anyone else has heard ever. It's like wow your cool cause you have a demo tape from a grindcore band that sucks and never went anywhere. I like what I like and if it isn't kult or mainstream enough then go blow a goat. keep listening to mainstream or kult garbage cause most of the time that is exactly what it is. In some cases bands are popular cause they have talent.
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Initial post:  Jul 20, 2011
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