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Initial post: Mar 16, 2010 3:18:08 PM PDT
Music Lover says:
I keep hearing good things about Opeth so i'd like to try one of their cd's but i have honestly not been exposed to much black metal. I am more of a classic rock and 80's thrash fan
what are some of their best songs?
what is their best album?
are they even considered metal or are they progressive(if we have to put a label on it)?

any help you can give is appreciated

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:21:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 16, 2010 3:28:37 PM PDT
real quick Opeth isnt black metal...thats a whole different ball of wax...Opeth is a mix of Prog metal and Death metal.

That being said Blackwater Park is probably one of the best...though there are no bad Opeth albums, at least for those who like them. Understand they do mix clean singing with heavy death metal growls so be ready for that. If your not used to rough vocals it may take some getting used to

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:22:51 PM PDT
"Opeth...black metal"

:|

"are they even considered metal or are they progressive"

There is such a thing as progressive metal, you know.

I don't even like Opeth, but they're generally seen as a pretty basic "intro to death metal" kind of band that helps people get into the genre. I would guess this sort of thing is foolproof as long as you don't mind random shifts from death metal to progressive, soft passages with clean vocals...

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:25:23 PM PDT
ExPool mind your manners...he's obviously new to harsher types of metal and dosnt know all the different genres

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:27:59 PM PDT
Music Lover says:
thanks to both of you for clarifying. i was only going off of the Amazon reviews of one of their CD's where they called them Black Metal.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:28:53 PM PDT
That was me minding my manners. I don't get much politer than that on the intranetz.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:29:58 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 16, 2010 3:30:37 PM PDT
"i was only going off of the Amazon reviews"

see..we should hunt down that reviewer and make fun of them

Dont mind Expool...shes all bark

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:30:11 PM PDT
Bobage says:
Definitely prog metal elements, much moreso than BM. I happen to dig Ghost Reveries most of all, but it is much more progressive than some of their other stuff. Blackwater Park is considered their crowning acheivement by (most) fans. You can't go wrong with either.

-The Drapery Falls from Blackwater Park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvLn8j4c5l4

-Bleak from Blackwater Park (Live Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpH3qhP_UE

-Baying Of The Hounds from Ghost Reveries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgivuL3YNcU

Enjoy!

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:31:27 PM PDT
K Mathews says:
Any album by Opeth will reward you. But remember that it usually takes a few listens per album to get the most out of them. I did not really get Opeth at all at first but I listened to them a few more times and slowly some really great music emerged. You could start with Blackwater Park or Orchid and listen to them a few times. Once you unlock Opeth's mysteries you won't find a better band.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:34:41 PM PDT
"Once you unlock Opeth's mysteries you won't find a better band."

oboy...I think I have somewhere else to be right now (Slowly backs out of the thread)

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:36:58 PM PDT
Bobage says:
@ Surge - Heh heh, off come the gloves again...

*follows Surge*

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:37:54 PM PDT
I don't like Prog, but when I was first getting back into metal I bought a bunch of Opeth. I listen to it every once in a great while, I'm not that interested anymore. That being said, if you like prog at all you will probably love Opeth. If you dislike harsh vocals, I would start with Damnation. If you don't mind some harsh vocals then I would start with My Arms, Your Hearse or Blackwater Park.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:39:31 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 16, 2010 3:50:22 PM PDT
Music Lover says:
Surgical Brute and Bobage-thanks

Expool-not a problem. at least i spelled the name right(i remember your rant about Mastodon). I just figure i'm never too old to expand my musical tastes a little. who knows maybe i'll love these guys and then they will catapult me more into the world of death metal.
I tried Pig Destroyer recently and loved the lyrics-and the creepy Steven Hawking intro is chilling but the music didn't knock me out. so i'm taking small steps here

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:41:48 PM PDT
"Pig Destoyer"

So far, this is the only thing that matters in this thread. :P

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 3:49:56 PM PDT
Music Lover says:
that's perfect. i misspell it after all that talk about not misspelling Mastodon.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 4:03:37 PM PDT
I actually didn't even notice it through my shock at hearing a worthwhile band mentioned. I was going to let that go. But now...

[KRAKEN!!] RAWR!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 16, 2010 4:19:47 PM PDT
Music Lover,
Opeth originally started out as a death metal band when they first formed back in 1990. Akerfeldt, the current vocalist/guitarist, started out as the bassist and is now the only original member left standing. The band has been considered a progressive metal band since their debut album. The only current quality Opeth has in common with any death metal band is their use of growled vocals (now used not even half of the time). Much of their music ranges from heavy to mellow and their vocals alternate between clean and growled.

Anyway, if you want to start from the beginning, Orchid would be the album to start from, their debut. A near 70 minute album with 7 tracks might tell you the average length of each song. If you are one who can sit still for that long, then this album could be for you. If you are looking for something a little more modern, then I would start with Blackwater Park. This album is the band's most successful to date. I think it is....since it's the most talked about. It's personally not my favorite, but is still a great album. BW marks the beginning point when Opeth REALLY mellowed down and used a lot more clean vocals along with 'lighter' music. I still consider it a metal album....just not as 'extreme' as its predecessors.

Several of my favorite songs from Opeth include Forest of October, In the Midst She Was Standing, Black Rose Immortal, April Ethereal, The Amen Corner/Demon of the Fall, Serenity Painted Death, Godhead's Lament, The Moor, Bleak & The Drapery Falls.

My favorite albums are
Still Life
My Arms, My Hearse
Morningrise
Orchid
Blackwater Park

Hopefully you won't get a wrong impression of these guys. Since they fall into the progressive metal category, many prog fans tend to put their bands on a high pedestal and berrate anyone who's not into them. Even as fan of this genre for many years, I thing that is plain wrong. If Opeth end up not being your thing, don't worry about it. It's all good. At least you plan of giving them a shot. Best of luck.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 6:00:14 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 16, 2010 6:02:59 PM PDT
Carrion Kind says:
@Music Lover
<<I tried Pig Destroyer recently and loved the lyrics-and the creepy Steven Hawking intro is chilling but the music didn't knock me out. so i'm taking small steps here>>

...Yes, Lyrics are a great part of what makes this band who they are...The intro is possibly one of the greatest beginnings to any band in recent memory...

...I can see how one would not be so enamored of their music - it's an acquired taste - but I think it's hard NOT to be knocked out by their music, personally...It's a total assault on the senses no matter how you cut it...

...Sorry I cannot offer much to the discussion on Opeth...They're a band I've heard a lot about, see much of in magazines/web, heard a few songs, but don't click with me on all the levels that they need to...I'd say I respect them, but my search for more Opeth doesn't go beyond what I do know now...

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 6:01:35 PM PDT
^ Scott Hull's riffs make me weak in the knees...

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 6:03:40 PM PDT
Carrion Kind says:
^...Yeah, there's like aural pheromones or something in them...

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 7:23:36 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 16, 2010 7:41:05 PM PDT
@music lover- Start with Damnation...all soft prog rock album...graduate to My Arms Your Hearse...This is in a nutshell their two most opposite albums...if you like them both then buy until you have tired your self of their formula...otherwise you will always at least have Damnation which will always be a respected album in your collection, that is if you don't like the death metal vocals...

good luck

@Drasser - Not sure I care for Pig Destroyer all that much...basically a more rowdy Slayer, with the fast forward button pressed down...and I'm not all that into Slayer these days anymore...

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 7:31:27 PM PDT
"basically a more rowdy Slayer, with the fast forward button pressed down"

?

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 7:36:20 PM PDT
"basically a more rowdy Slayer, with the fast forward button pressed down"

?

?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 16, 2010 7:37:29 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 16, 2010 7:46:21 PM PDT
You know, you're not the first person I know of who compared Pig Destroyer to Slayer. Then again, I only know of about five people who even heard of the band-Pig Destroyer. This doesn't include the people I "know" here on Amazon forums. He once called them, Pig Slayer.
A big stretch if you ask me, but I can see how me might have come to that conclusion.

Posted on Mar 16, 2010 7:51:52 PM PDT
They both play fast = PD sounds like Slayer

?

You could call the entire grind genre "fast-forward Slayer" then. :\
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