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Posted on Jun 25, 2012 5:52:01 PM PDT
Wow Onlymj! You are soooo right once you put it that way! I think we talk about it caz...truthfully we all wish we were with him and she had a chance that we never had. Lucky trick!

Posted on Jun 25, 2012 6:18:00 PM PDT
YANA Girl says:
I agree with you Onlymj. I think that most people would stop linking them together if LMP herself would quit using his name for attention. The fact that she doesn't does gets many fans riled up and those that do like her use it as a fantasy between the two. Michael did move on, only it seems like some of his fans can't accept that. LMP may have moved on with Lockwood, but she isn't above using Michael to get noticed.

Posted on Jun 25, 2012 6:23:01 PM PDT
word!! ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012 7:35:01 PM PDT
PYT says:
Tell it Reggie: He can never be duplicated. I am reading reviews of BAD and it is crazy that people did not understand that Michael was a eclectic artist. That is why BAD video looked like West side story. It was not supposed to be looked at literally.

Sometimes I think he was so before his time and that people were not even ready for the art form that he created. I did not know about Mrs. Presley being a minor and moving in with Elvis. Tell me more, Tell me more (like the movie GREaSE).

I guess I should read up on Elvis. By the way what tributes did anyone notice on tv or radio today? I keep asking whether or not the media will commemorate MJ on today or his birthday.

Posted on Jun 26, 2012 4:34:15 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2012 8:43:47 AM PDT
J. Leone says:
Yes, Scarlett, you said it very well. Think of those commissioned pieces of art he had made of him and Lisa. I think he loved her very much, but as Karen Faye said, he didn't have the best role models in his life to know how to make a relationship work. I think it was very hard for him to incorporate a wife into his life, for as Lisa once said, he had been a one-man show for a long time and his career was so important to him.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2012 5:41:18 PM PDT
onlymj says:
Thank you..if you look at the past each and every time she is trying to launch a new cd, up comes Michaels name..I know she wishes she had done things differently but maybe thats the lesson she should learn

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 26, 2012 5:51:13 PM PDT
onlymj says:
I read Frank's book and its very good but I have read hundreds of books about Michael over 44yrs. I think there is some truth in most but books are written to be sold, so none of them are exacty the way things are. I totally beleive Michael loved LMP in the early 90"s and he did want children with her but she went into the marriage promising children and the hesitated, that was a deal breaker. I dont remember the artwork being mentioned but Michael cared about everyone that he had been in a loving relationship with. Brooke Shields for example. I, by no means was trying to remove her from his life but that was the past and thats where she belonges. He had a chance to reunite with her, both She ahd He spoke of this, but He declined. His life was his music and his children and that is the Facts..we'll just agree to disagree..

Posted on Jun 26, 2012 7:13:10 PM PDT
PYT says:
Yeah I agree with onlymj.

He would have never gotten married if it hadnt been for the accusations that forced a tremendous pressure on him. He wanted a better image. those accusations caused him so much anguish and cost him money cause disney movies and children's museums and things like this could not be utilized in his career.

I wished they would have left him alone and let him be who he was. Music and me married to the music. That way he wouldnt have rushed into it with LMP and found a well grounded woman.

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Posted on Jul 2, 2012 8:55:18 AM PDT
PYT says:
I disagree Scarlett. I know Michael was innocent. I just believe he was married to his music and was not interested in marrying.

I really don't think he could hurt a child. His actions after the accusations prove he was innocent. He kept working and doing things to improve the lives of children. I am not sure why he did not just put the last family out and tell them Hell to the naw you cannot sleep in my room or any room in Neverland. But that is hindsight.

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Posted on Jul 2, 2012 10:54:50 AM PDT
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Posted on Jul 2, 2012 11:12:44 AM PDT
PYT how can someone not be interested in marrying? I guarantee you he was interested in hoing out! So why not marriage?

Posted on Jul 2, 2012 11:46:27 AM PDT
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Sarah Jax says:
Michael said, when he was very young, that he "was married to his fans and his music". but later.. well, he DID marry twice. He wanted a family of his own. Don`t agree that he would never have gotten married if it weren`t for the accusations... I know that most of the MJ fan base hates/dislikes LMP, and I understand why, but I for one think those 2 loved each other.
I think that a marriage between 2 ppl who were so head strong/stubborn as they both were, could not have been a walk in the park. So it crashed. Like about 50% of all marriages do, sadly.
Bottom line is, I think Michael wanted LOVE in his life, but it must have been difficult for him to find someone he felt he could trust.
He really had to pay for his mega stardom. My heart is bleeding for him.

Posted on Jul 2, 2012 12:00:29 PM PDT
Yes I agree tinkerbell and Scarlette. When it comes to people and there art work no matter what it is, people help inspire, those emotions within to write, draw, dance ,act. You can not be in this entertainment field without knowing how to relate to people. Art people are the most expressive in this world and we need connections in order to do it. Michael was all about making a connection and understanding people and hos emotions so yes I do believe in order to relate, he wanted to marry at one time or many times in his life. That's how art folks are but we still dedicated to our work. You actually think he would take care of them kids by himself if he had a choice?! Michael believed in stability. Why? Caz he didn't have it. I remember watching the Bashiere interview when they were shopping,Bashiere asked if he had someone in his life, MJ smiled and looked bashful, whatever he was thinking it showed that he had some type of attraction to women and got exited when mentioned. That's true fact there! No rumor

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 2, 2012 2:50:39 PM PDT
J. Leone says:
Absolutely, because she had gone into the marriage promising him that the first thing they would do was to start a family. I'm sure he felt his dreams of a family was slipping away. He was already in his late thirties, and I'm sure he felt time was also passing him by. He also had to have felt very betrayed by Lisa- and very hurt. She was willing to have children with her first husband- but not with him. That had to cut him to the core.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 2, 2012 6:57:21 PM PDT
YANA Girl says:
I believe that the real reason LMP refused to have kids with Michael was because he would not convert to Scientology. She had children with both Danny and Lockwood, both are Scientologists. MJ and Nic Cage never converted and neither had children with her. I remember that Michael said they would fight about that 'religion' a lot. It seems to me that her and Nic would fight about the same thing too.

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Posted on Jul 2, 2012 7:33:13 PM PDT
YANA Girl says:
Passin, Yes, it does explain quite a lot. Also Scientology caused problems between Elvis and Priscilla too. He refused to convert when he was married to her. But in that situation, they had already had LMP when Elvis was pressured to join.

Supposedly LMP is NOW trying to break ties with Scientology, at least that is what some say her new song "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" is about. From what I understand, (which isn't very much), it can be very difficult to get out and even dangerous to do so.

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Posted on Jul 3, 2012 2:11:02 AM PDT
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J. Leone says:
Threy were discussing this on The Today show this morning with a group of panelists who were giving their opinions on a variety of topics. Tom and Katie had a Scientology wedding, and they were saying that she knew what she was getting into with Tom and his religion, because it is such a big part of his life.

The rumor is that Katie does not want their daughter to be brought up in Scientology and that is why she filed for divorce. She got an apartment in NY a couple of weeks ago, which could be a sign she may be going for full custody; however, she has to prove that her daughter has ties to NY- goes to the doctor there, school, etc. The state of New York is supposed to be more favorable toward this scenario for full custody than California.

Lisa Marie thought Scientology could help Michael since she felt it had helped her. Michael felt it wasn't "spititual" enough for him. I've read about it, and spirituality isn't part of it at all.

Posted on Jul 3, 2012 8:25:39 AM PDT
C. Starling says:
After years of emotional struggle, MJ got out from under the control of the JWs. But at least they didn't try to get all his money. No way was he going to turn over his life to another bunch of control freaks like the Scientologists.
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