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Initial post: Sep 18, 2012 12:26:09 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Dec 7, 2012 8:01:12 PM PST
J. Baker says:
Thank you for finding this thread. I hope it provides you with some interesting discussions and discoveries on the topic of A. H., one of the movies' most enduring, influential, and entertaining figures.

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Here are the Alfred Hitchcock elimination game rules:
[updated for voting changes]

1. Vote once per day for - a) your favorite(s) from the master's most celebrated feature films.

{Cut and Paste the last list posted}

2. Add 3 points to the movie(s) you enjoy the most

{please let us know at the bottom of the page which movies you added and subtracted from}

3. We play by Amazon time, with days starting at Midnight as usual: one vote per person each day.

4. All are welcome to vote and talk here about Hitchcock movies. Other chat which is off topic is allowed, but any talk about other posters in an uncivil and disrespectful way will result in voting privileges being revoked. That goes for everyone. Do not bring personal grudges or other nasty baggage here.

(note: I've included all the the master's films that are listed on IMDb as having been voted on by 2,000 people or more; no shorts, no incomplete features, no TV)

Thank you, and have fun!

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The Winners so far (to be updated regularly)...

1. 'The Birds' (1963)
2. 'Psycho' (1960)
3. 'Vertigo' (1958)
4. 'Rear Window' (1954)
5. 'The Lady Vanishes' (1938)
6. 'Young and Innocent' (1937)
7. 'North by Northwest' (1959)
8. 'Dial M for Murder' (1954)

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 12:27:27 AM PDT
J. Baker says:
The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 8
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 5
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 7
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 7
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 7
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 7
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 7

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 7
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 7
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+ Young and Innocent, Birds
-- Frenzy

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 1:04:18 AM PDT
Oz le Fou says:
After master of games,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 8
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 4
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 7
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 8
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 7
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 8
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 7

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 6
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 7
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

Minus Torn Curtain
Minus Frenzy...glad to see I'm not the only one who ain't a fan
Plus Rear Window...the obvious vote
Plus Saboteur...the far less obvious vote

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 12:47:52 PM PDT
El Emmarino says:
After Sloany,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 8
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 4
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 8
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 9
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 7
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 8
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 7

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 5
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 6
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 7
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+ Psycho [A shocking vote from Emma!]
+ Rear Window [Gotta love them voyeurs]
-- Suspicion [Sorry Cary]

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 1:27:41 PM PDT
J. Baker says:
I'd like to go back to the old Hitchcock game and try and figure out why 'Strangers on a Train', 'Notorious', and 'Vertigo' did so badly, and why 'To Catch a Thief' and 'Suspicion' did so well.
'Psycho' doing well is a given, of course, I realize that. But don't think I won't fight it, Emma!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 1:57:04 PM PDT
El Emmarino says:
HA! Oh I expected nothing less Brother. But my boy is stocked with rice and ready to throw down against your pesky birds.

Apologies, I forget... why do dislike 'Psycho'?

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 2:11:11 PM PDT
After Emma:

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 8
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 4
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 8
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 9
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 7
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 8
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 7

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 5
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 6
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 9
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+2 Vertigo

I haven't seen enough to down vote anything yet. In fact, I've only seen Vertigo and Psycho. I know, smite me down. Where do you guys think I should go next? Rear Window, The Birds, Rebecca...?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 2:13:29 PM PDT
J. Baker says:
Weeell, I don't dislike it...it does appear I like it much less than everyone else, though!
To me it only has a few genuine scare scenes (shower and stairs) and the rest is very obviously done, like an episode of TV's Alfred Hitchcock Presents. The house and mummified mommy are straight outta Disneyland.
It's an iconic movie in it's way, and also a very crude one that only holds up well in relation to all the slasher imitators since it, which tend to be unwatchable. Undeniably the work of a master, but a master working in low gears.
I think 'The Birds', for all it's flaws in casting and some of the initial dialog, was Hitchcock working with all pistons firing, at the top of his art. It has all the fresh, majestic cinematic qualities I think 'Psycho' is in too-short supply of. The ending of 'The Birds' may be too ambiguous for some action-hungry customers. It worked for me. Much better than the laughable psycho-babble ending with Tony Perkins.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 2:22:11 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 18, 2012 2:22:36 PM PDT
J. Baker says:
Pastor,
I'd say 'North by Northwest' and 'Rear Window' are great places to continue your Hitchcock journey.
Funny enough, I didn't like 'North by Northwest' or 'The Birds' the first time I saw them. They've grown to be my favorite of his Hollywood period.
I didn't care much for 'Rebecca', and I liked 'The Birds' way more than most people.
'The 39 Steps' and 'Young and Innocent' are excellent places to start to see where he excelled at the 'wrong man' and 'cross-country chase' themes.
'Sabotage' and 'The Lady Vanishes' are also favorites of the 1930s.

Of his early Hollywood work, standouts are 'Shadow of a Doubt', 'Notorious' (which I prefer to 'Vertigo') and 'Rope'.
Also must-see: 'Strangers on a Train', 'Foreign Correspondent', 'Saboteur'.
'The Wrong Man' and 'Topaz' may be his most underrated movies.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 2:27:21 PM PDT
Thanks for the suggestions, Jonathan! I fear it'll be a while before I return home so I can get them from Netflix. In the meantime, I'll keep looking to see what of Hitchcock's is instant queue!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:19:14 PM PDT
Q says:
I'm gonna have to totally disagree with you here, JB.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:24:08 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 18, 2012 4:24:56 PM PDT
Q says:
After POM,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 8
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 4
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 8
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 10
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 8
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 5
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 6
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 9
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+ Rope
+ Rear Window
-- Shadow of a Doubt

May I make a request for *NO SPOILERS* here please?!

I'm a hardcore Hitch lover, but I Confess that I haven't made my way through the entire oeuvre! I'm trying! I don't want to downvote anything!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:32:34 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 18, 2012 4:33:20 PM PDT
J. Baker says:
>Q says:
"I'm gonna have to totally disagree with you here, JB."<

About what? Everything?

Thanks for voting. 'Rope' rocks, hope it does better in this game.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:35:03 PM PDT
Q says:
About Birds vs. Psycho.

Rope may very well be my favorite.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 1:00:42 AM PDT
J. Baker says:
After goin' psycho for Rope!....

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 9
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 3
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 7
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 10
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 8
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 5
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 6
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 9
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+ Charlie loves her uncle as an ideal of big city sophistication, a liberating spirit she dreams will somehow lift her away from her drab small town existence, not as a man to romantically sweep her off her feet; it's a mental connection, she doesn't want to physically 'connect'... I'm a little disturbed that Q's reading something sexual and perverse into these characters. Maybe Hitch was a dirty old man, but I can't see any evidence for it in 'Shadow of a Doubt'.
+ And now trouble really comes to a small California town, and it's perfectly liberated in the abstract, no creaky human villainy contrivance to get in the way of the pure mastery of menace: The Birds is Coming !!!
- ....mother? (talk about psycho-sexual perversity, jeeze!!)
- Frenzy

Posted on Sep 19, 2012 1:05:58 AM PDT
[Deleted by the author on Sep 19, 2012 1:20:18 AM PDT]

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 1:07:57 AM PDT
Oz le Fou says:
After steppin' for Charlie who dreams of escape,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 9
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 3
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 7
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 11
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 9
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 5
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 4
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 9
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

Plus Rear Saboteur.
Minus2 Torn Curtain

Posted on Sep 19, 2012 1:15:13 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 19, 2012 1:36:29 AM PDT
Kacee says:
I've deleted my post because Toby decided to be very rude and ignore it.

Unfortunately these games are participated by petty people perpetuating private preferences.
(oops, I sound like the principal in That's So Raven, LOL!!!!)

Time to go and get ready for work and be with little people who are nice and fun to be with :))

Posted on Sep 19, 2012 4:53:52 AM PDT
After Sloany:

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 9
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 3
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 7
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 11
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 9
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 5
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 4
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 11
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+2 Vertigo

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 6:45:31 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 19, 2012 1:07:19 PM PDT
El Emmarino says:
Baker: " - ....mother?"

Downvoting `Psycho' sooooo early in the game? Ha! You really are going to make me work for this one, aren't you?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 6:46:08 AM PDT
El Emmarino says:
After Muppets,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 9
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 7
Frenzy ~ 2
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 9
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 11
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 9
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 7
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 4
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 4
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 11
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

++ Psycho-sexual perversity ;)
-Suspicion
- Frenzy

Posted on Sep 19, 2012 1:03:01 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 19, 2012 1:07:27 PM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
After J,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 9
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 8
Frenzy ~ 2
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 7

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 9
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 11
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 9
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 8
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 4
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 4
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 9
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

+Hello Dali
+ When Push Comes to Shove
-- The enduring image is that of Barbara BelGeddes portrait

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 1:07:55 PM PDT
Q says:
JB,

You have *got* to know something's up with those Charlies! Ugh!

Posted on Sep 19, 2012 1:09:11 PM PDT
[Deleted by the author on Sep 19, 2012 1:15:23 PM PDT]

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 1:11:17 PM PDT
Q says:
After CJ,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 9
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 7
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 8
Frenzy ~ 2
I Confess ~ 7
Jamaica Inn ~ 7
The Lady Vanishes ~ 8

Lifeboat ~ 7
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 7
Marnie ~ 7
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 7
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 7
Notorious ~ 7
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 7
Psycho ~ 10
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 11
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 7
Rope ~ 8
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 9
Secret Agent ~ 7
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 4

Spellbound ~ 8
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 7
Suspicion ~ 4
Under Capricorn ~ 7
To Catch a Thief ~ 7
Topaz ~ 7
Torn Curtain ~ 4
The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 7
Vertigo ~ 9
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 8

--No doubt about *this* shadow!
+ The Lady Vanishes (on a train)
+ The lady vanished (in a motel)
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