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☞ Master of Suspense: Alfred Hitchcock GAME and chat ☃ ✄


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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 12:30:15 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 29, 2012 12:40:24 AM PDT
Jonathan says:
After, ...**EDIT: J. Q., and I'm with C. J. on being one of the 14 people in the world who prefer 'Bell, Book, and Candle' to 'Vertigo', but 'Vertigo' is still a great movie, and far from the worst on here, and what is it you have against 'North by Northwest' anyway!?,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 24
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 4
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 5
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 3
Psycho ~ 26
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 24
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 16
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

- Dial M for Mundain
- Harry Trouble
+ Young Birds ... love birds, in flight for some reason or another! +

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 12:31:41 AM PDT
Q says:
JB,

Did I just beat you to the punch?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 12:38:17 AM PDT
Jonathan says:
Q: "I have a really sheety transfer, and the dialogue is ruined by the overpowering musical score (which is awful)."<

Ah-ha! British movies of that period typically had very bad sound, and with a junky DVD transfer, it's bound to kill 9/10ths of any appreciation you might have had for it.

That the characters were stupid and whiney was the point. It's almost a farce. We weren't supposed to like them or think they were cool people.

>>"That's what you get for buying cheap Hitch compilations."<<

Yeah, you're cursed to having even good ones looking and sounding godawful.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 12:39:24 AM PDT
Jonathan says:
You did indeed, you insomniac, you!

I'll fix it in a minute. I'm trying to do too many things at once right now.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 12:47:36 AM PDT
Q says:
Hey, I totally appreciated The Lady Vanishes even in that godawful state!

Granted, it did take me a couple of viewings to get into it. I love it!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 1:02:41 AM PDT
Jonathan says:
'The Lady Vanishes' probably came from a better print though, even if the transfer was lousy. I'm not saying it isn't a better movie. It's certainly easier to like, but I don't believe 'Rich and Strange' exists in anything but shoddy prints now.
I have a crummy copy of 'Number 17'. It's still clear enough to see that it's an interesting movie, and a nice climax on the runaway train. Do you have that one in you cheapo set?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 1:08:17 AM PDT
After needing subtitles when in the Midlands,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 24
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 4
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 5
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 3
Psycho ~ 26
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 16
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

Plus2 Rear Window

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 6:57:45 AM PDT
El Emmarino says:
After Sloany,

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 25
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 4
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 5
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 3
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 16
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+Psycho Birds+

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 7:08:31 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 29, 2012 7:12:54 AM PDT
After Emma:

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 25
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 4
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 5
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 3
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 18
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+2 Vertigo

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 8:47:04 AM PDT
Q says:
I need subtitles on *everything*. It's highly annoying to anyone watching a movie with me.

JB, yes I do! I just haven't gotten around to that one yet.

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 8:49:55 AM PDT
Q says:
I think I found that set at Target for like 5 bucks. It's got 20 films! So it was pretty much a steal, even if the films are poor transfers. Two of them are just shorts from Hitchcock presents: The Cheney Vase and The Sorcerer's Apprentice, but the others are all full-length films!

It has several silent films, which I'm not a huge fan of. I tried watching The Farmer's Wife the other day, but got bored and turned it off.

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 8:54:05 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 29, 2012 8:54:57 AM PDT
Q says:
I see that it has several that aren't even on the game.

The Manxman
The Thirty-Nine Steps
Champagne
Easy Virtue
The Ring
Juno And The Paycock (is this a porn?)
The Skin Game (see above)

Edit: I see The 39 Steps up there.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 1:32:19 PM PDT
Jonathan says:
Q,

I didn't list those others because they're so unpopular these days. But if any of them strike your fancy you're welcome to include them in the game. I didn't think anyone would be voting on them, but that doesn't mean they aren't worth seeing.
'The Ring' I think is the best of those you mentioned, and it's also one of the least characteristic Hitchcock movies. It's one of his silents, so it comes with subtitles (inter-title cards) burned in already!

'Number 17' is very strange for the first half. Almost a haunted house mystery. I could completely understand how it might turn some away. It's definitely not one of Alfred's masterpieces.
'Juno And The Paycock' is based on a play, and is maybe his most boring movie. 'Murder!' was very good.
Try to see 'The Thirty-Nine Steps' before any of the other '20s and '30s movies. It's a classic.

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 2:20:58 PM PDT
J.B. Taylor says:
Speaking of silent movies, have any of you seen Nosferatu?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 5:17:21 PM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
Yes, I found what is probably unintentional humour In the shoehorning of names from the Stoker novel in the English Title Cards. "Mr. Westenra"? Well, Lucy had been allowed to marry, her husband would probably be very "whipped" indeed. It's never really explained why "Refield" becomes insane all of a sudden.

The cultural differences and the plague are somewhat interesting, but the movie takes most of it's time in what is the set-up of the story and has a rushed and not very believable conclusion. (This one movie where taking bad advice works.)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 5:25:22 PM PDT
Jonathan says:
Out of curiosity now, having seen you downvote Murnau on the Directors Game, is 'Nosferatu' the only Murnau you've seen, C. J.?

It's not one of his best, but I prefer it to the '31 Dracula and even the Herzog version in '79.

Essential Murnau: 'The Last Laugh', 'Faust', 'Sunrise'.

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 5:31:26 PM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
After Reverend Henson

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 25
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 4
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 9
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 3
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 3
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 18
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+2 Matt Smith shows up with a pager bad containing 3 months rent
-2 No Branjelina. No laughs. No body Count. Protracted nosebleed set-up.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 5:35:27 PM PDT
Jonathan says:
Re: 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith'

"No Branjelina... No body Count."

Just how are those things a negative?
I've been waiting for someone to down-vote this very un-Hitchcock screwball affair, but I'm a little foggy on your reasons. The "not funny" part is clear enough.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 6:26:51 PM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
Branjelina was more of a title clue than anything else.

As to "body count" that was perhaps poorly phrased. I realize that many Classic Hitchcock thrillers may in fact have less dead bodies than say Abbot & Costello Meet the Killer Boris Karloff, but most Hitchcock movies involve at least the threat of death. Instead we get an overly elaborate slapstick sequence where Gene Raymond goes to elaborate lengths to fake a nosebleed in order to hide from his never-legal wife that Jack Carson's taste in women runs to the zaftig.

I thought going it that was would be a Thin Man style comedy-thriller. Gene Raymond would have made a great amateur sleuth. Instead we got a messy Awful Truth clone.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 7:53:12 PM PDT
J.B. Taylor says:
After C. J. Vista

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 27
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 2
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 9
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 3
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 3
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 5

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 18
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+2 The Birds
-2 Dial M for Murder

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2012 12:29:39 AM PDT
Jonathan says:
After who needs 3-D when you got the Birds comin' at ya?!

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 28
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 2
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 9
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 3
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 1
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 8
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 18
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+ The Birds of a Doubt +
-- The Paradine Case nearly closed.

Posted on Sep 30, 2012 12:40:12 AM PDT
C. J. Vasta says:
After who needs a Paradine when you doubt the existence of Birds?

The 39 Steps ~ 7
The Birds ~ 28
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 3
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 9
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 3
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 1
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 26
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 9
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 16
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+ John Williams, not the Composer +
-- Sorry Kim Novak recycling a score is not a rape

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2012 1:03:03 AM PDT
Jonathan says:
CJV: >"Sorry Kim Novak recycling a score is not a rape"<

It's still a valid metaphor. People are way too PC about something that obviously wasn't meant to literally signify physical rape. It was designed to grab the attention, sure, and that it did. She clearly wasn't trying to offend or make light of rape victims.

It's a subject worth paying attention to, the re-purposing of scores for works that the composer never intended them for. It treads on shaky ethical grounds, and Ms. Novak was right to point that out, expressing her personal outrage (albeit melodramatically, of course!)

Even "legitimate" remakes like Scorsese's 'Cape Fear' or Van Sant's 'Psycho', are arguably 'raping the corpse' of the original scripts and direction, and yes, scores.
The way De Palma rapes the memory of Hitchcock is far more brutal yet.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2012 1:54:40 AM PDT
After CJ,

The 39 Steps ~ 5
The Birds ~ 28
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 3
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 9
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 3
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 1
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 28
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 9
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 16
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

Plus2 Rear View
Minus2 39 Steps...I struggled to get through it.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2012 6:48:02 AM PDT
After Sloany:

The 39 Steps ~ 5
The Birds ~ 28
Blackmail ~ 7
Dial M for Murder ~ 3
Family Plot ~ 7
Foreign Correspondent ~ 9
I Confess ~ 10
Jamaica Inn ~ 4
The Lady Vanishes ~ 10

Lifeboat ~ 6
The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog ~ 9
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934) ~ 7
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) ~ 8
Marnie ~ 3
Mr. & Mrs. Smith ~ 3
Murder! ~ 7
North by Northwest ~ 14
Notorious ~ 8
Number 17 ~ 7

The Paradine Case ~ 1
Psycho ~ 27
Rebecca ~ 7
Rear Window ~ 28
Rich and Strange / East of Shanghai ~ 3
Rope ~ 19
Sabotage (1936) ~ 7
Saboteur ~ 13
Secret Agent ~ 6
Shadow of a Doubt ~ 6

Spellbound ~ 10
Stage Fright ~ 7
Strangers on a Train ~ 8
Suspicion ~ 3
To Catch a Thief ~ 9
Topaz ~ 5

The Trouble with Harry ~ 7
Under Capricorn ~ 3
Vertigo ~ 18
The Wrong Man ~ 7
Young and Innocent / The Girl Was Young ~ 15

+2 Vertigo
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