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What's the best player for Audiobooks?

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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 12, 2010 6:04:22 PM PDT
Nicki says:
I thought ~The Neighbor~ was great too. I finished Dominick Dunne's ~Too Much Money~ today. I have always enjoyed his gossipy way of writing..and I started ~Deception~ by Kellerman

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2010 10:41:37 AM PDT
Andreatf says:
I just finished The Rose of Sebastipol (Crimean War novel) by McMahon and am listening to Revelation (16th century mystery) by Sansom and South of Broad by Pat Conroy. Thanks to all of you who suggested titles. I see that there are many mystery aficionados like me on this list:-)


In reply to an earlier post on Apr 13, 2010 11:13:23 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 13, 2010 11:14:04 AM PDT
jj2me says:
I've always like listening to the Sue Grafton "Alphabet" mysteries. I like the narration and the main character, but I think it's mostly about this series being well-suited for audio narration: not too many characters (especially not with similar names like Joe, Jared, Jed, Ned, Fred-- was the worst in that respect, I still haven't finished it, yet it's a decently-rated Booker Prize winner), not too many similar characters, slower pace in each event and description.

Audiobook listeners often are multitasking, and rewinding is not as easy as flipping back a page or two in a paper book.

Posted on Apr 15, 2010 11:10:19 PM PDT
Bille says:
Completely buffaloed here. Know I'm missing something but can't identify it.
Using Overdrive to select an audio book to download. Then click on the download button to download the WMA audio book and the download goes into my "New Files" folder. But I'm unable to transfer the downloaded audio file from my New Files folder into the Overdrive Media Console to transfer it to my brand new Clip+. Somewhere I'm missing a basic step but can't figure out what it is. Very much appreciate some guidance.

Bill E.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 15, 2010 11:48:36 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
When you click on the download button in your browser, your browser downloads a file with the extension .odm. At this point Overdrive should ask where to download the file. The default location is My Documents\My Media\WMA Audiobooks\ I have never changed this location, so I don't know what happens if you do.
If clicking the download button in your browser does not open the Overdrive download window where you select the parts to download, then your browser is simply downloading the ODM file and not associating it to Overdrive. You can launch Overdrive and use the File menu's Open command to select the ODM file from the folder it was downloaded to. This should launch the download process and you should see the book right away and it will download the parts you selected. Then once you have your Clip plugged in, you click the transfer button. Be sure to click on Advanced options and browse to the Audiobooks folder on your clip, or simply type \audiobooks into the Player Folder box. This will ensure that Overdrive puts the book in the correct folder on your clip and does not mix it in with your Music files.

Hope that helps,

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 6:28:13 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 16, 2010 6:28:51 AM PDT
jj2me says:
"... and the download goes into my "New Files" folder."

When you click on your library's Download button, Windows should open its download window, giving you a choice of "Save File" or "Open with OverDrive Media Console (default)"*. Choose Open, not Save.

*If the "Open" option doesn't show the OverDrive app by default, then you need to use that dialog to find and choose that app.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 8:10:28 AM PDT
Bille says:
Appreciate the rapid response to my issue. I keep getting an error message. "Error 0x80070057; the parameter is incorrect.

Uninstalled OverDrive then reinstalled it. Then redownloaded my audio books after deleting them from the Firefox download page.

I open OverDrive, go to File, Open which takes me to the Look In: window which shows WMA Audiobooks, then I select a book, double click that book which brings up a Get Media window. The folder shown in that window points to the correct WMA Audiobooks folder, then I click OK and receive the error message of an incorrect parameter.

To add to my frustration the very first book I ever downloaded went smoothly, but somehow I'm unable to repeat that sterling performance.

If I had a sword I'd fall on it. <g>


In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 9:19:03 AM PDT
jj2me says:
So you don't get the option on downloading to "Open with OverDrive Media Console"? You only get the "Save File" option? It might be worth trying the simpler "Open" way if you can, to see if the error goes away.

I couldn't duplicate your way, because the way I download, the .odm file must get put somewhere like the Windows Temp folder, so I couldn't find one. Sorry, I would test by downloading another and "Save File," except I'm first in line on my waitlist, which will fill up my allotted five audiobooks.

Just to be sure, here's the instructions from my library for that portion of the task. Maybe if you followed it precisely, doing the double-click? (though it seems doubtful that would change things):

"After the audiobook has been checked out, click on the 'Download' button next.
Depending on your operating system and settings, you may be prompted to open or save the file. If you choose to save the file, navigate to the saved file and double-click it. Otherwise, choose to open the file. "

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 9:34:23 AM PDT
C. Holt says:
You may want to try the Windows Media Player Security Upgrade from the tools menu first.

This seems to be a DRM issue relating to the license folder that Windows Media Player uses.
Some info here on resolving this issue.

Error messages can often be Googled with good results.

Perhaps your first book was an MP3 (no DRM)?

Put the sword away, we will get this fixed up! :)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 9:42:14 AM PDT
Bille says:
You are correct! My first book was indeed MP3. Got to leave the computer now as duty calls.

Thank you both for your assistance. The sword has been put away...

Posted on Apr 16, 2010 3:16:09 PM PDT
Bille says:
Believe my issue is resolved. The suggestion to Google the error message was a good one and it worked. I won't detail all the steps I went through to delete the DRM folder then reinstall it via WMP Security Upgrade. Have to remember to go back and recheck the box to hide hidden and system files.

In Goggling the error messages discovered I'm not alone in a leaking boat.

Successfully downloaded a fresh copy of a WMA book I hadn't previously downloaded and got it installed in OverDrive Media Console. I had worn out my welcome on the library download site as I'd re-downloaded too many times. Now I'll have to wait two weeks for my original downloads to expire, then go back in to pick up the books that weren't loading in OverDrive.

Very grateful for the assistance provided by you two as you got me pointed in the right direction.


In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 9:07:43 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
I'm glad to hear you got that one sorted out. Thankfully it's not a paid service and you are only out some time and maybe some hairs from your head!

The fact that services like Overdrive and NetLibrary exist was a positive sign, but only a small step. Publishers were very slow to respond to the consumers demand for digital media. Ignorance and resistance to change kept them from providing the quality, easy access media that consumers (and libraries) were more than willing to pay for. The dynamic, connected nature of the internet allowed consumers to seek sources that did not compensate the authors and artists.

Thankfully the trend is going away from DRM and more and more enlightened publishers are realizing that these measures do not reduce piracy and only inconvenience legitimate customers. It's great to see the major players like iTunes and Amazon offering music in non-DRM formats. Now it's the book publisher's time to see the light and improve the consumer experience and their profits at the same time. Every MP3 title they add is less hassle for the consumers, libraries and publishers themselves and increases consumption while decreasing the need for support.

Even if you don't hide hidden and system files, they do show as ghosted in Windows. You can use this visual cue as an indicator to be cautious about altering or deleting them until such time as you remember to re-check the boxes.

Posted on Apr 16, 2010 9:21:56 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
Those of you who were asking about a tutorial on tagging MP3 files can go check my site at
I appreciate your requests and feedback on all my articles and tutorials. I wish I could write more frequently, but be assured I am reading your comments and will do my best to work on all your suggestions.
Kudos to Amazon for providing these great discussion groups, since they were the catalyst for the site. You guys are a great group, as I suspect most audiobook aficionados are and I appreciate all your support.

What am I listening to now? The Mark of the Assassin by Daniel Silva. It's been a while since I've read a cloak and dagger and I'm enjoying it so far. Christopher Lane is an accomplished narrator and though the plot is a little thin, Silva's prose makes it an enjoyable listen.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 9:51:11 PM PDT
Nicki says:
Nice blog Chris..I visited for the first time. Spellcheck even!!!! woo hoo!! My eyes glass over when you guys talk about tagging. When would you tag? On a cd audio book you owned and wanted to put on your mp3 player? I only use overdrive or I guess thats why I'm not sure what tagging is but it ~reads~ hard to do.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 16, 2010 10:03:18 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 16, 2010 10:07:33 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
I was afraid that would happen. I try to be very thorough with my tutorials, so they may appear daunting before you actually get into the process. Believe me, it is much easier than it sounds.

As I said in the lead in, music and books that come from commercial sources are ready to go with the correct and complete information already in the tags. When we rip audiobook CDs or dub cassettes, we need to add this information in with the audio in the file so the player can display it to us. We could use the file name for the information, but that can be tedious to scroll through on a small screen and there isn't really a standard that would allow the player to sort the files by artist, album, genre, and so on.

Think of it as putting a label on a CD that you burned, or if you want to jump in the wayback machine, labeling the cassettes and VHS tapes you recorded yourself. You can't tell what is on the disk or tape unless there is a label.

Posted on Apr 18, 2010 10:41:17 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 18, 2010 10:42:00 AM PDT
jj2me says:
Free today, Sunday, April 18, 2010 on is a program to speed up or slow down an MP3, OGG, WAV and AAC/MP4/M4A/M4B audio file, without the chipmunk pitch sound.

Yes, this can be done by Audacity (especially the Audacity 1.3 Beta with nicer batch processing), or with freeware app BestPractices ( ), which can also be a portable app, but can't handle AAC files (you might see an occasional podcast on iTunes only offered in AAC format).

You must install and activate today. Follow the activation instructions in the readme file.
You can also download and install a portable app version (see the link in the last line of the description).

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 11:44:56 AM PDT
TSTBren says:
Thanks for your post jj2me! I had downloaded Audio Speed Changer Pro but had missed "the activation instructions in the readme file" I would have been very disappointed if I had not done that part today!

I was very pleased to see that this program is much more user friendly than Audacity (for me at least!) and I am going to enjoy using it on occasion.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 12:20:40 PM PDT
khamelly says:
Am I just missing the activation instructions? I can't find them anywhere. The only thing I see in the readme file is to buy it, but nothing to register/activate this version. Is this a real license, or just for 30 days?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 12:21:59 PM PDT
khamelly says:
Never mind, I found it. It's in the read me when you first download, but once you install it's not there anymore. So, I had to re-download to get the code.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 12:29:50 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
You have to download the .zip file from the Giveaway of the Day site. If you end up at the publishers site, you will end up downloading a trial version. In the zip file there should be a readme.txt file and a setup.exe file.
The link to download from the Giveaway of the day site is below the User ratings and Requirements and the icon looks like a silver floppy disk with a bow on it and a green arrow pointing down.

Hope that helps.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 12:40:25 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
"It's in the read me when you first download, but once you install it's not there anymore."

I always Save and put the zip file somewhere until I have the program installed. It also gives your AntiVirus a chance to see the file before the installing starts.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 5:00:19 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 18, 2010 5:47:45 PM PDT
Bille says:
Looks like I'm out of the woods for sure, Chris. Just completed downloading and transferring successfully two WMA books.

Goggling and following those two WMA error messages paid off.

Placed your Audiobook Addict blog into my RSS feed.


In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 5:56:14 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
I am pleased to hear that!

I am glad I could help point you in the right direction.

Hopefully we will be able to start a forum on in the not too distant future. Bringing suggestions and help together in one place is really powerful.

I appreciate everyone who subscribes and comments. Thanks for reading!

Posted on Apr 18, 2010 7:12:16 PM PDT
MummCher says:
Question re: the Sansa Clip +. Can one transfer from Overdrive to the micro SD card?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 18, 2010 8:02:18 PM PDT
C. Holt says:
I don't see any reason why not. You can change the location when you transfer the book and the Clip should not care which memory the book comes from. Licensing is contained in the file.
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