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Jethro Tull: Massively underrated


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Initial post: Apr 21, 2011 12:19:23 PM PDT
Tull fans tend to be a secret society who fully understand and appreciate Ian Anderson's genius - but the majority of music fans are either wholly unfamiliar with them or regard them as a kind of novelty act. 40+ years of unparalleled artistry and musicianship: What gives?

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 12:47:18 PM PDT
I think it depends on the age of the listener.

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 12:52:52 PM PDT
True - there's probably not a lot of young fans entering the fold

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 12:53:13 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 21, 2011 12:53:46 PM PDT
Jesse James says:
Ive been saying this forever, Im 25 yrs old, and THE TULL ROCKS, Should be in in The Rock Hall!!!

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 1:31:08 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 21, 2011 1:32:12 PM PDT
Hoagie Mike says:
Love Tull...great band with a brilliant collection of music. Yes, Ian rules but also- Martin Barre is an amazing, great guitarist. They are currently on tour - so go see 'em.
Aqualung 40th Anniversary Tour.
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top five J Tull albums:
Songs From The Wood
Aqualung
Benefit
Stand Up
Heavy Horses
~

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 21, 2011 3:04:07 PM PDT
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Posted on Apr 21, 2011 3:05:46 PM PDT
zlh67 says:
Their music's hardly aimed at the mainstream so I consider them lucky they've had the career they've had. Not saying they don't deserve it or aren't talented, but very little prog-oriented music makes it big or long term. When's the last time you heard a Jethro Tull song on the radio that wasn't recorded in the 70's?

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 3:08:12 PM PDT
Jesse James says:
Over-use of the flute?? That IS JETHRO TULL. There arrangements of songs is what made them unique.. Dynamics..

So vocally you got guys like- Mick Jagger, Neil Young, Bob Dylan who dont have the greatest voices in the world and look where they are at??

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 3:21:58 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 21, 2011 3:45:03 PM PDT
Nothintosay says:
mr. critic says:
Two major weaknesses...poor vocals and overuse of flute. As far as keyboards, drums, and bass guitar,
WHATTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!
Poor vocals ? Ian Anderson's gritty grimy voice is perfect for songs spanning the early Cross Eyed Mary to the more recent Rare and Precious Chain . Could Greg Lake sing Aqualung ? no ...there's something to be said for vocals complimenting the lyrics.
Overuse of the flute ? Whattttt !@!!!!
That's not exactly James Galway on an Enya album ...he's practically spitting into the thing ...it's perfect for the lyrical content .
Keyboards ?????? WHATTTTTTTTT !!!! ...what do own Under Wraps .. and that's it ?
Gentle giant is a reasonable substitute ? and Genesis blows 'em away ? no s$#% ? Why don't you try googling ' Thick As A Brick " lyrics ... read 'em , then get back to us

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 21, 2011 3:26:32 PM PDT
zlh67 says:
Jagger is one half of perhaps the greatest rock songwriting duo in history. Dylan IS the greatest songwriter in rock history (or certainly top 3). Young is up there as well. Good songs go a long way.

Not saying Tull doesn't have some good songs, but... the emphasis is more on the music less than the overall song itself (how many Rolling Stones or Bob Dylan albums consist of two 20min+ songs like "Thick as a Brick"?).

Tull is a totally different genre from the others you list: the Stones are straight rock and roll, Young and Dylan are folk/rock singer-songwriters. Tull is prog-rock and very few prog rock bands hit the big time. I guess the biggest would be... what, Rush? And even they are something of a secret society. There in the 80's they hit the mainstream but before then (and since), they too have struggled for widespread respect (they're not in the hall either).

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 3:43:41 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 21, 2011 3:53:26 PM PDT
Nothintosay says:
btw ...I always thought Tull was mislabeled by critics ..because they never really bothered to listen to them . To me , Jethro Tull was and is a hard rock band . Just because you write lyrics about something other than sex and cars doesn't automatically make you a prog band . What other prog band out there has a This Was , Stand Up, Benefit , Aqualung ,Thick, Minstrel ... , Crest Of A Knave , Catfish Rising and Roots etc under their belt ? The only album , to me , that might go in the prog catagory is Passion Play ...other than that , with the exception of some acoustic adventures in the late 70's ..Tull is a hard rock band who pioneered the genre .
And one more thing ...if you're upset that Tull isn't in the RnR hall of fame ...Madonna IS .... and so is the band whose members are it's own biggest fans ( Metallica ) ..so not being in would be somewhat of a badge of honor .

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 4:14:39 PM PDT
Jesse James says:
There are BLUES, ROCK, HARD ROCK, CLASSIC ROCK, ALTERNATIVE, METAL, COUNTRY, PROG, then you have JETHRO TULL and THE DOORS in a Genre of there own.

Bands like Tull, Doors, RUSH are you either LOVE THEM, or You hate them..

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 4:36:04 PM PDT
Working Man says:
I am a huge Tull fan, Saw them just last summer and they were great. As for the comments about the weak vocals and overuse of the flute, well I am not much of a fan of Genesis or Gentle Giant so there you have it. Also, I dont' think Tull is trying to get on the radio, who from the 70's is? Maybe Aerosmith (and look how they've kind of sold out). I like Tull the way they are, though they have not had a studio album since Dot Com, except for the great Christmas album.

I love the fact that band like Yes, Jethro Tull, Deep Purple, Rush and others are still making music and still selling out show and they don't get radio airplay.

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 4:53:41 PM PDT
K.L. Stover says:
After The Beatles and The Zep, Tull is my all-time favorite band.

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 5:01:12 PM PDT
Warchild says:
I've been hooked ever since my older brother had Broadsword cranked up on his stereo. Fantastic band. Oh, and Mr Critic, you may take one of Ian's flute and well, I think you know where to put it.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 21, 2011 5:20:49 PM PDT
onsenkuma says:
Maybe J.C. Helton's right that it 'depends on the age of the listener'. When I was in my late teens, Jethro Tull were MASSIVELY popular; a mainstay of FM rock and college radio (when FM radio mattered); and well respected. For me personally, 'Benefit' in particular still stands as a high water mark in early '70s rock. Underrated? Novelty act? Wow, that's not how I remember them...

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 5:39:07 PM PDT
Touring and selling albums for 43 years and Not in the R & R Hall of Fame ? I've never heard of some of the clowns and 2 hit wonders that have been inducted ; mayhaps they should change it to R & R Hall of shame ! Tull rocks ; always has , always will . And while we're on the subject , Procol Harum , anyone ?

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 7:30:46 PM PDT
musicman37 says:
40th Anniversary Tour was three years ago.

Jethro Tull was, at its inception, a blues-based ROCK band, but with the departure of Mick Abrahams, the band veered away from blues, following Ian Anderson's muse, incorporating English folk music into the mix, and even though "Thick As A Brick" and "A Passion Play" (and "Baker Streeet Muse" from "Minstrel in the Gallery") found them stepping lightly into prog rock territory, the group is a folk-influenced HARD ROCK BAND. What further bears this out is the fact that, other than the above examples, their offerings have consisted of tightly constructed, concise songs.

The fact that Jethro Tull (and the Moody Blues) are not in the R&RHOF is an embarassment to everyone who ever listened to music.

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 7:36:12 PM PDT
I was turned onto Tull by Bursting Out. I immediately bought everything up after that starting with Heavy Horses, Horses remains my favorite to this day. Took me until way late in his career to see him in concert but it was well worth the wait. Tull is a cult, much in the way Rush is. Jethro Tull are one of rocks best for the originality of their craft.

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 8:17:45 PM PDT
Warchild says:
I also highly recommend A Classic Case: The London Symphony Orchestra Plays the Music of Jethro Tull.

A Classic Case: The London Symphony Orchestra Plays The Music Of Jethro Tull, Featuring Ian Anderson

It features Ian Anderson's flute playing, but is all instrumental. Definitely a must have for any Tull fan.

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 8:47:23 PM PDT
Suze says:
I've always thought that Ian Anderson was a genius and his flute playing is phenomenal.

:)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 21, 2011 9:40:44 PM PDT
When I was in 7th grade back in 1972- my English teacher did a "Poetry" series and included analyzing some rock songs... I had Aqualung...
forever remember it and appreciated her giving us an exercise that got us more interested in the messages in music.

Barbara- San Diego

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 9:41:10 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 21, 2011 9:43:05 PM PDT
B. A. Dilger says:
Benefit, Living In The Past, and of course Aqualung are some of my favorite albums. Passion Play and Ministral In The Gallery were the last ones I bought (on LP,since lost). On the last reissue of Aqualung CD, Ian's interview downplayed that album by casting it as a fan album, that he had gone beyond that into much more serious music. He bashed Aqualung as not that great, and people should move on. I think Aqualung should be one of the top 25 Rock albums ever made. Anyone with me ?

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 10:03:46 PM PDT
greenblade says:
Aqualung-one of the top 10 (not 25) rock albums ever made. Tull is? are? amazing. Over the years, the heart of the band is down to Ian and Martin Barre. The rest, except for maybe Doane Pegg, are hired hands.
IA owns a big piece of Scotland, including a top imported fish farm and gourmet brand. He goes out on tour as a hobby these days. I'm glad JT does. Tull Forever!

Posted on Apr 21, 2011 10:11:25 PM PDT
MH says:
Tull are certainly one of my favourite bands and they have been that for nearly forty years now. The first LP I got was Aqualung followed by Stand Up. And these two albums still top my favourite album list:

1. Aqualung
2. Stand Up
3. Thick As a Brick
4. Songs From the Wood
5. Minstrel in the Gallery

Aqualung is a magic album with an elegant mix of heavy instrumentation and gentle accoustic arrangements. I would bring that with me on a deserted island.

Tull are fantastic live and I've seen them quite a few times. Always a class act, even though old "pottymouth" is almost without voice these days.

I think Tull should be mentioned alongside bands like Zeppelin, Yes, Procol Harum and Moody Blues.
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