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Top Ten Best Picture Winners Nobody Remembers (or cares about)


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Initial post: Feb 18, 2013 11:29:25 AM PST
Anyone remember (or like) any of these?

Tom Jones (1963)
Ordinary People (1980)
Chariots of Fire (1981)
Forrest Gump (1994)
The English Patient (1996)
Shakespeare in Love (1998)
American Beauty (1999)
A Beautiful Mind (2001)
Crash (2005)
Slumdog Millionaire (2008)

Much more memorable: Psycho (1960) or North By Northwest (1958) which weren't even nominated. Even The Pink Panther (1964) is better than this group (it wasn't nominated either).

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 11:41:50 AM PST
Chariots of Fire, Forrest Gump and American Beauty are among my all time favorite films.

Why is this on the music forum?

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 11:54:49 AM PST
Randy says:
Why is this on the music forum?(2)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 12:02:02 PM PST
ED S. says:
Yes..why?(3)

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 12:20:03 PM PST
TC says:
why not? :)
i kind of like The English Patient. The rest are.....unneccesary.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 12:30:13 PM PST
"Why is everyone talking about 'The English
Patient, it's so romantic'. God, that movie stunk!"

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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 12:44:38 PM PST
So many Best Picture winners are far from the Best most years. Add Greatest Show On Earth, Oliver and many more. Great movies like Saving Private Ryan, Dr. Strangelove, Psycho and Chinatown dont win. Why they allow 10 movies a year to be nominated now when your hard pressed to find 5 great movies. Back in the 70s you couldve nominated 10 and still leave worthwhile movies out.

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 12:51:39 PM PST
Saving Private Ryan won, didn't it? And Strangelove and Chinatown were at least nominated. The films I listed were all winners and, I believe, most of them are soon to be (if not already) forgotten. Unlike really great films like Bridge On the River Kwai, Godfather 1 and 2, Ben-Hur, Gone with the Wind, Casablanca, Lawrence of Arabia, On the Waterfront, Streetcar Named Desire, Gigi, West Side Story and so on. Even Hitchcock's better films are more memorable than this batch, and none of them were even nominated. I'm with you on "Oliver"...."The Lion in Winter" (up for Best Picture the same year) is a much better film.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 1:01:59 PM PST
Shakespeare In Love beat Saving Private Ryan for Best Picture!

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 1:21:36 PM PST
Arrgh! That's absurd. Shakespeare in Love wasn't even historically accurate. All of Shakespeare's plays were adaptations of existing literary works....none of them were pulled out of his arse as that movie plainly states. So much for respecting the audience's education and intelligence...

"'Romeo and Juliet' was based on Arthur Brooke's 1562 narrative poem 'The Tragical History of Romeo and Juliet' which itself was rooted in an Italian original." -- from Wikipedia

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 1:24:05 PM PST
"Shakespeare in Love wasn't even historically accurate."

Nor was it intended to be.

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 2:10:52 PM PST
D. Mok says:
Ordinary People is a good film, if just a bit TV movie-ish. American Beauty is a classic, and a low-budget film that was a smash at the box office, which reflected its time very well. It was a breath of fresh air -- a biting, irreverent, small comedy in a category dominated by big epics. The Insider from that same year was also worthy, as was The Sixth Sense.

For weak Best Picture choices, I'd vote for:

The Last Emperor (1987)
Dances with Wolves (1990, won over GoodFellas)
Forrest Gump (1994, won over Quiz Show and The Shawshank Redemption)
Gladiator (2000, won over Traffic)
Crash (2005, won over Munich)

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 3:29:50 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 18, 2013 3:31:50 PM PST
I liked "Ordinary People", "Chariots Of Fire", "American Beauty", "A Beautiful Mind", and "Slumdog Millionaire" very much, although none of them was the best picture for their year. However, it's kind of disingenuous to title the thread "winners nobody remembers or cares about" and then list "Forrest Gump", as that film is still very much acclaimed and talked about today (I never cared for it much, although it has its moments). I thought "The Last Emperor" was brilliant, but I can do without the others on D.Mok's list.

"All of Shakespeare's plays were adaptations of existing literary works."

This is a not-so-well-known fact they don't always teach you at school. I went through studying Shakespeare in Jr.High and High School and none of my teachers ever mentioned this little (uh, actually ULTRA-IMPORTANT) tidbit to me until college. I was *so* disappointed when I finally learned the truth. I can't believe people don't make more out of this. I don't even know why people argue about who "actually" wrote the plays, when none of them were remotely original to begin to with. I mean, the dialogue was original and that's a hugely important part of why Shakespeare is revered, but PLOTS also might have just a teeny tiny bit to do with the play as well, doncha think?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 4:04:40 PM PST
Dear robert

sorry - but one of my favorite movies of all time, and don't to push it, but i saw it 4 times in theatre and countless times here at home. the script, imho, is one of the best ever. i won't go on because you don't care for the film. i never saw -from your list- no.s 8, 9, 10. saw no.2, but it it was gone by the next day.
f.y.i. for this year my favorite is 'life of pi'
thanks
bonnie

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 4:08:06 PM PST
@Bonnie R.Beduhn: "sorry - but one of my favorite movies of all time, and don't to push it, but i saw it 4 times in theatre and countless times here at home. the script, imho, is one of the best ever."

Which film are you referring to, here?

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 4:18:42 PM PST
D. Mok: I'm with you on the Last Emperor (Spielberg's un-nominated "Empire of the Sun" was better), "Dances with Wolves" ("Goodfellas" would have been my pick that year too) and especially "Forrest Gump" ("Quiz Show" was a much better film). I preferred Gladiator to Traffic (I was impressed that anyone would even TRY a Roman epic again--kudos to Ridley Scott) but Crash is just baffling ("Brokeback Mountain" was way better). The director of "Crash" also directed "Walker, Texas Ranger" (with Chuck Norris).....not exactly the new William Wyler. We haven't heard from him since...

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 18, 2013 4:22:51 PM PST
I loved "Life of Pi"....I think it's the Best Picture of 2012. I don't think it'll win though. This year is a hard one to figure. It seems like everyone wants "Argo" to win. A good film, yes but great? I'm not so sure. Ang Lee deserves a Best Picture Oscar so why not "Life of Pi"? It's incredibly good as are most of his films....

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 4:27:31 PM PST
D. Mok says:
> This is a not-so-well-known fact they don't always teach you at school...I can't believe people don't make more out of this.

Because every playwright in Renaissance English Theatre did so.

> The director of "Crash" also directed "Walker, Texas Ranger" (with Chuck Norris).....not exactly the new William Wyler. We haven't heard
> from him since...

Seriously? You "haven't heard from" Paul Haggis? Million Dollar Baby? Casino Royale? Quantum of Solace? Flags of Our Fathers?

Paul Haggis was always more of a writer than a director. And television has produced some very successful writers, directors and producers: Aaron Sorkin, Michael Mann, J.J. Abrams, Davis Guggenheim.

Posted on Feb 18, 2013 4:28:26 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 18, 2013 4:33:00 PM PST
@Robert G.Daugherty: "I'm with you on the Last Emperor (Spielberg's un-nominated "Empire of the Sun" was better)"

Oh, HECK NO! Those two films are often compared since they came out at the same time, and I have always vastly preferred "Last Emperor" over Spielberg's typically maudlin, melodramatic piece of crap.

"...and especially "Forrest Gump" ("Quiz Show" was a much better film)."

"Quiz Show" was far superior to "Forrest", but "Pulp Fiction" was clearly the best picture of '94 IMO.

"...but Crash is just baffling ("Brokeback Mountain" was way better)."

"Crash" is probably one of the worst films ever to win best picture. Although "Brokeback Mountain" was better, I found it surprisingly dull (I usually like Ang Lee as a director...I just saw "Lust, Caution" for the first time recently which was brilliant). Still, the Academy clearly chose "Crash" over it because they couldn't bring themselves to pick a film with "Brokeback"'s subject matter. It was so obvious, especially considering that "Brokeback" was the most decorated in film history up to the Oscars, and was one of the very rare instances where the Oscar between best picture and best director was split. Plus the fact that "Crash" sucked such hardcore balls, that there's no way the Academy members could defend themselves with the statement that they genuinely thought it was the better picture, LOL.

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Posted on Feb 19, 2013 11:31:51 AM PST
TC says:
Tom Jones (1963) - out of the 5 nominees that year, America America gets my vote.
Ordinary People (1980) - Raging Bull no contest.
Chariots of Fire (1981) - Raiders of the Lost Ark
Forrest Gump (1994) - Pulp Fiction
The English Patient (1996) - Fargo
Shakespeare in Love (1998) - Saving Private Ryan
American Beauty (1999) - The Sixth Sense
A Beautiful Mind (2001) - The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring
Crash (2005) - Munich
Slumdog Millionaire (2008) - all of these are pretty pathetic - i would have gone with The Dark Knight, Doubt, or The Boy in The Striped Pajamas

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2013 12:51:57 PM PST
Robert,
I liked all those films. Some more so then others.
John

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 2:48:32 PM PST
Tom Jones was a great film but Hud was the best film of 1963.
Ordinary People was also great but no match for Raging Bull.
1981 was a poor year for films and Chariots of Fire was perhaps the best "serious" film of the year, but the best piece of filmmaking was Raiders of the Lost Ark.
That Forrest Gump won is a major atrocity; Pulp Fiction (and many others) were better.
I think The English Patient is great, though a close call (too close) with Fargo.
Shakespeare in Love is loads of fun, but no match for Saving Private Ryan.
American Beauty is fantastic but frankly for me the best film of 1999 was Toy Story 2.
2001 was one of the worst movie years; the best thing offered was Fellowship of the Ring which is the weakest of the 3 LotR movies.
Crash also came out in a weak year but I would take Capote, or Good Night and Good Luck, or even Brokeback Mountain over that one.
Slumdog Millionaire? Very good but no. The Wrestler!

Top Ten Weakest Best Picture Winners (+ what should have won):
Wings (1927/28) (Sunrise)
The Broadway Melody (1928/29) (it is a weak film from a weak era; it may really deserve best picture of its period but even most of the films left on this list are better)
Cimarron (1930/31) (City Lights)
Cavalcade (1933) (Duck Soup, King Kong or 42nd Street - I prefer Duck Soup)
Gentleman's Agreement (1947) (Out of the Past)
The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) (Singin' in the Rain)
Rain Man (1988) (The Unbearable Lightness of Being)
Driving Miss Daisy (1989) (Henry V; Crimes and Misdemeanors, Do the Right Thing, Jesus of Montreal, and Drugstore Cowboy would have also been worthy)
Forrest Gump (1994) (Pulp Fiction)
Gladiator (2000) (Almost Famous, or possibly Traffic)

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 3:12:54 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 19, 2013 3:14:55 PM PST
@BFD: you and I have very similar taste in film. Although I didn't think "The Wrestler" (while great), was as good as "Slumdog Millionaire", I agree with practically every other pick you make in your post. "Raiders" should have won for 1981. Oh, and I liked "A Beautiful Mind" and think it deserved to win that year, although I haven't seen a lot of the films (of the ones I've seen, "Fellowship" was good but "Moulin Rouge" sucked). Best picture for '33 should have been "Duck Soup" for sure. "Almost Famous" was cute but not *that* great, I'll take "Traffic" for 2000.

A lot of the films that won best picture in the 50s and 60s didn't deserve it: I mean, "An American In Paris" over "Streetcar Named Desire"? "Around The World In 80 Days" over "Night Of The Hunter"? "Gigi" over "Vertigo"? "West Side Story" over "The Hustler" or "Breakfast At Tiffany's"? "My Fair Lady" over "Dr.Strangelove" or "A Hard Day's Night"? "A Man For All Seasons" over "The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly" (or was that counted purely as a foreign film?)? "Oliver" over "2001"? All travesties!!!

Posted on Feb 19, 2013 3:38:12 PM PST
Crikeydingo says:
And Rocky over Taxi Driver:-(
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