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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2010 8:26:41 PM PST
Roeselare says:
ok

Posted on Jan 24, 2010 8:35:31 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 24, 2010 8:37:05 PM PST
Butterfly says:
Pretty interesting article from Wikipedia about CTA/ Chicago.

Beginnings-

The band was formed when a group of DePaul University music students who had been playing local late-night clubs recruited a couple of other students from the university and decided to meet in saxophonist Walter Parazaider's apartment. The five musicians consisted of Parazaider, guitarist Terry Kath, drummer Danny Seraphine, trombonist James Pankow, trumpet player Lee Loughnane. The last to arrive was keyboardist Robert Lamm, a music major from Chicago's Roosevelt University. The group of six called themselves The Big Thing, and continued playing top-forty hits, but realized that they were missing a tenor voice (Lamm and Kath both sung in the baritone range); the voice they were missing belonged to local bassist Peter Cetera[3].
While gaining some success as a cover band, the group began working on original songs. In June 1968, they moved to Los Angeles, California under the guidance of their friend and manager James William Guercio, and signed with Columbia Records. After signing with Guercio, The Big Thing changed their name to Chicago Transit Authority.[1]
Their first record (released in April 1969), the eponymous The Chicago Transit Authority, was a double album, very rare for a first release, featuring jazzy instrumentals, extended jams featuring Latin percussion, and experimental, feedback-laden guitar abstraction. The album began to receive heavy airplay on the newly popular FM radio band; it included a number of pop-rock songs - "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?", "Beginnings", and "Questions 67 and 68" - which would later be edited to a radio-friendly length, released as singles, and eventually become rock radio staples.
Soon after the album's release, the band's name was shortened to Chicago, when the actual Chicago Transit Authority threatened legal action.

Time of transition-
1978 was a tragic and transitional year for Chicago. The year began with an acrimonious split with long-time manager James William Guercio (which had actually occurred three months earlier). Then, on January 23, guitarist/singer/songwriter/group co-founder Terry Kath died of an accidental, self-inflicted gunshot wound. Another version describes Kath's drunken last words to guitar tech Don Johnson: "Don't worry, guys. It isn't even loaded. See?"[4] Kath was the group's leader onstage, and for many longtime fans, its musical soul. Terry Kath's stunning death could have meant the end for Chicago, but encouraged by friends and admirers such as Doc Severinsen, the group held fast and soldiered on.
After auditioning over 30 potential replacements for Kath, Chicago decided upon guitarist/singer/songwriter Donnie Dacus, who joined the band in April 1978 just in time for the Hot Streets album and its energetic lead-off single "Alive Again", which brought Chicago back to the Top 15. The group was briefly re-energized by Dacus, whose long blond hair and rock star image stage presence seemingly overshadowed his musical abilities. The kinetic Dacus may have been out of character for the normally laid-back Chicago, but he could sing and play, and the band responded by delivering some of their tightest live performances ever. Hot Streets, with producer Phil Ramone now at the helm, was Chicago's first album with an actual title rather than a number and was the band's first LP to have a picture of the band featured prominently on the cover (with the ubiquitous logo downsized,) two moves that were seen by many as a way to indicate the band had changed following Kath's death. To a degree, the band returned to the old naming scheme on its subsequent releases, although most titles would now bear Arabic numerals rather than Roman numerals. The release of Hot Streets also marked a move somewhat away from the jazz-rock direction favored by Kath and towards more pop songs and ballads. Dacus didn't last long, only staying with the band through the 1979 album Chicago 13 (Dacus is also featured in a promotional video on the DVD included in the Rhino Records Chicago box set from 2003). 13, again produced by Phil Ramone, was the group's first studio album not to contain a Top 40 hit.
1980's Chicago XIV, produced by Tom Dowd, relegated the horn section to the background on a number of tracks, and the album's two singles failed to make the Top 40. Production values were spare, perhaps due to the lean, stripped-down New Wave music that was popular at the time. Chris Pinnick handled the guitar duties and came close to the "Kath sound," but did not sing. He would remain with the band through 1985. Believing the band to no longer be commercially viable, Columbia Records dropped them from its roster in 1981 and released a second "Greatest Hits" volume later that year to fulfill its contractual obligation.
The second major phase of the band's career took off in late 1981 with a new producer (David Foster), a new label (Warner Brothers), and the addition of keyboardist/guitarist/singer Bill Champlin and guitarist Chris Pinnick (who had played on XIV and subsequent tour); percussionist Laudir de Oliveira also departed at this time along with former Buckingham and sax player Marty Grebb, who had joined the group briefly for the XIV tour.
Foster brought in studio musicians for some of the tracks on Chicago 16 (including the core members of Toto), and Chicago once again topped the charts with the single "Hard to Say I'm Sorry/Get Away". This was followed up by a song that barely missed the top 20, "Love Me Tomorrow." The following album, Chicago 17, became the biggest selling album of the band's history, producing two more Top Ten singles ("You're the Inspiration" and "Hard Habit to Break") (both #3 hits) and two other singles ("Stay the Night" (#16) and "Along Comes a Woman" (#14). Peter's brother, Kenny Cetera, was brought into the group for the 17 tour to add percussion and high harmony vocals.
Lead vocalist Peter Cetera's desire to record a second solo album (he'd done his first one in 1981) and not continue with the band's gruelling tour schedule caused him to leave Chicago in 1985. Although other band members (including Lamm and Champlin) have released solo material, Cetera has proved the most successful, topping the pop charts with The Karate Kid, Part II theme song "Glory of Love," and also with Amy Grant on "The Next Time I Fall". Two more songs, a 1988 solo hit called "One Good Woman" (#4 U.S.) and a 1989 duet with Cher called "After All" (#6 U.S.) reached the Top Ten.

Here's the link to view the entire article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_(band)#Time_of_transition

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2010 9:09:38 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 24, 2010 9:10:54 PM PST
George says:
lois/shortcakes

Cheryl Lynn , "Got to be Real" , "Shake it Up Tonight" "If you'll be true to me" "Feel It"

The Dazz Band , "Let it whip" , " Joystick " ....These guys are cool.

Earth Wind and Fire , "Lets groove tonight" "September" "Boogie Wonderland" ,

The Emotions , "Best of my love"

Cherelle , "I didn't mean to turn you on"

The Whispers , "And The Beat goes on", "Rock steady"

Kool and the Gang , "Get down on it" ,

Fat Larry's Band , "Act like you know"

Sugar Hill Gang , "Rapper's Delight" .....always makes me get down this song love it.....

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2010 9:20:15 PM PST
George says:
Joe the priest

The songs that have come out of your head are a great list.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2010 9:21:25 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 24, 2010 9:21:47 PM PST
George says:
Isn't Althea adorable :~) , always has all the information you need.

Posted on Jan 24, 2010 9:25:42 PM PST
Joe, that would still be amazing if you had that list in front of you, let alone off the top of your head.. I have "Roll over Beethoven' by Little Richard AND CCR. Live in '86

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2010 9:33:54 PM PST
Butterfly says:
Hi George,

It's back to work tomorrow so I have to turn in soon but not before I put out some youtube offerings from your list.

Let's start with your main *get down* song. ;-)

Rappers Delight-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-302Jp0bVQ&feature=related

Cherrelle - I Didn't Mean To Turn You On (really funny video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8luxaT0JRs

Do you remember Robert Palmer's? Who am I asking, of course you do. ;-)

ROBERT PALMER - I DIDN'T MEAN TO TURN YOU ON - EXTENDED VERSION - ( 1986 ) HQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRd4hWfmmNw&feature=related

Let's Groove - Earth wind and fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOY7lsBVpo

Cheryl Lynn - Feel It (1979)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79FDPtDl3D0&feature=related

The Whispers - And The Beat Goes On

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0nhTwMsLY&feature=related

You know I'm dancing in my chair.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2010 9:43:27 PM PST
George says:
Althea

I loved Cherrele....thanks for the youtube offerings.....i am dancing to.
Goodnight and don't work to hard tommorow.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 6:28:05 AM PST
Roeselare says:
Earth, Wind & Fire We're Living In Our Own Time

It's a revelation

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 7:12:29 AM PST
George

Thanks for the compliment. Every once in awhile I just start thinking of some connection to songs and I go with it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 7:13:38 AM PST
Jim

I dind't know Little Richard or CCR did "Roll OVer". That is interesting and thank you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 7:19:18 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 25, 2010 7:25:24 AM PST
Butterfly says:
J. black,

I will check this out later @ home. I don't remember this one. Is it an album or a song? I'm @ work and don't have a alot of time to research it.

re: Maurice White

Did you know that he worked with Ramsey Lewis and Muddy Waters before forming EWF?

AP

* typo edit

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 10:03:32 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 25, 2010 10:04:01 AM PST
Roeselare says:
A. P. Walker says:
"I will check this out later @ home. I don't remember this one. Is it an album or a song?"

A song from the Electric Universe album, and the lyrics are quite poetic.

Maurice White has the best falsetto. He sang backup with Lewis AND Waters? Those were the days.. thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnz_4HWysU

WE'RE LIVING IN OUR OWN TIME
Maurice White, Michael Colombier & Allee Willis

I feel it in the night
I hear a whisper, a ray of light
A flash across the sky
Through the window in my eyes
A bolt of thunder
Exploding in my mind

Is it real, what I feel
It's just like floating away
While the moon floods the room
I can hear music start to play
I see it on your face
Oh, what a difference lovin' can make
Silence of the dark, words are falling
from my heart
It's all around us
My thoughts are calling

Imagination is born when love's alive
A spirit creating a place for you and I
Together let's ride away to find the universe
And let our dreams live our lives

Living in our own time
You are the answer
Loving on our own time
We found the answer
Hiding in the midnight

Now I'm so willing to discover
Believing forever touching each other
Nothing out there can stop us tonight
All that we're feeling so right
You mean so much to me
I feel so wanted, but still so free
The warmth of your embrace
I know time will not erase
Making it easy to go loving

You are the answer
Loving on our own time
We found the answer
Hiding in the midnight

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 10:12:50 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 25, 2010 10:15:23 AM PST
Roeselare says:
There were a lot of misheard words there,

Our thoughts are calling
Imagination is born when love's alive
A spirit creating a place for you and I
Together let's ride away to find the universe
And let our dreams re-live our lives

We're living in our own time
You are the answer
Loving on our own time
We found the answer
Hiding in the midnight

Now I'm so willing to discover
Believing forever touching each other
Nothing out there can stop us tonight
All that we're feeling so right
You mean so much to me
I feel so wanted, but yet so free
The warmth of your embrace
I know time could not erase
Making it easy to go on loving you

<anyway, it's closer now>

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 10:36:34 AM PST
stevign says:
JB:

re: "Maurice White has the best falsetto"

I would say Tim Buckey did. Jac Holzman who started Elektra Records once said "Tim could have sang Opera if he wanted to". While I think that's a tad over the top, Tim Buckley did have the widest range and hit falsetto easily.....AND in a full clear voice. I submit this as evidence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiKpRrRSQ58&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaiN-7VLiUE&feature=related

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 12:31:58 PM PST
Roeselare says:
Ooops, of course it was Philip Bailey's falsetto. That's embarrassing for me.. a lot of water under the bridge since I've thought of specific names in EWF..

Buckley's not a favorite of mine, but I really admire people who can do that. I'm just a piano player (and you wouldn't want to hear me sing LoL).

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 1:06:25 PM PST
Butterfly says:
J.black,

I was wondering about that but let it slide. LOL.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 1:19:41 PM PST
stevign says:
JB:

re: "and you wouldn't want to hear me sing LoL"

Well at least you admit it. Most people don't admit it until a good deal of the population in their town is in the Critical Care Unit at their local hospital and the cops show up with a Cease and Desist order from the court.

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 3:16:11 PM PST
Butterfly says:
I'll be back later. Just dropping off a few of my favorite renditions of "Dindi".

Dindi by Astrud Gilberto-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRJMaYOs3r4

Jon Lucien-Dindi (1970)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNoHfXEvDCQ&feature=related

Dindi - El de Barge & Art Porter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-EH7mUpZyA

BBL,
AP

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 3:18:53 PM PST
Butterfly says:
One more thing. My favorite Art Porter groove.

Art Porter - Lake Shore Drive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb_K8MYdXJo

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 5:00:34 PM PST
Roeselare says:
heh, oh well, I'm so bad that I HAVE to admit it. Pretty bad..

I do sing to myself though when I play (silently), I have to now.. it's a hard habit to break ...Kipner, Parker lol

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 25, 2010 5:01:02 PM PST
Roeselare says:
thank you, lol

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 7:29:09 PM PST
Butterfly says:
Tribute in song to Jean Simmons-

Marlon Brando & Jean Simmons~Guys And Dolls~Woman In Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl1C8-kG6P8&NR=1

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 7:59:25 PM PST
Butterfly says:
Jean Simmons movies:

The Big Country (1958) - Theatrical Trailer - © United Artists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmY0ipYM-wk

Spartacus - Theatrical trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA8WKduGUyc

The Thorn Birds - Love theme (piano solo) Henry Mancini

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RavFon_K_gI&feature=related

Footsteps In The Fog (1955) - Title Sequence -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S51RbTPtyvk&feature=related

Posted on Jan 25, 2010 8:14:00 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 25, 2010 8:14:35 PM PST
As far as falsetto singers go, the best will always be Philip Bailey of Earth, Wind & Fire and Eldra DeBarge of DeBarge.
There hasn't been anyone to sing like them, much less top them.
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