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Rock Music is the Devils Music !


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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 10:48:39 AM PST
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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 11:25:41 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2011 11:27:49 AM PST
Hey guys, this guy is a troll who started this "discussion". He has other posts how Hip Hop is jungle music, what's your favorite CHRISTmas song, and likes the Beach Boys...the Beatles were a second rate band who could not play. You're wasting your time with this one.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 11:59:12 AM PST
"Hip Hop is jungle music" ??? .. . NO!!! Well, he isn't wrong about THAT one. After all, .. . it IS !

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 1:06:42 PM PST
L. Turner says:
If anyone's name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life, they only have this life for their heaven. Eternity is a long time to be in a hellish state of being. Kinda makes any type of music rather meaningless. Give me most anything except rap-crap, boy bands or heavy opera.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 1:10:09 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2011 2:25:37 PM PST
J. Hand says:
I kinda sensed it was likely somebody being a troll. I guess it's just that there are people like that around where I live. I added an anecdote that sorta ties in with this thread and the ideas behind it. Maybe it will make it a bit less of a waste of time.

I'm originally from LI, NY so I have a pretty well ingrained set of mores from that. Some years ago I moved to Southern Indiana and while I like the area and almost all the people I have met, at times it seems an alien place. It sure ain't the Hamptons in the summer! Ever. I worked with a guy once whose name was Dave. We got to be friends and after being friends for a while we started going to lunch together. We worked evenings so we took lunch about 8:30 to 9:00. We'd go grab food and a couple beers in his little blue Escort. We'd sit in the parking lot to eat and he'd always tune into this local AM religious -like fire brimstone demons devil type radio program. Now, I'd occasionally tune into Robert Tilton when he had his religious show on TV. He was just so weird and the things he'd do and the people he'd have on beat the bizarre from any Saturday Night Live, SCTV, Kids in the Hall comedy type program hands down. So over several weeks, every night we'd tune into this crazy preacher's show. I thought for a long time Dave listened to it because it was so weird it was funny just like I occasionally watched Tilton.

This preacher - show host bragged on himself that he was a good debater when it came to religion and nobody could out-argue him when it came to the Bible and the Word of God. He dared people to call him and try. He especially loved to bait agnostics, non-believers, and people of other faiths and call them cowards who tremble before his God granted powers and didn't dare raise their voices against him. But, he found things to go on a tear against his regular listeners frequently, too. People did try to call in about things, but this "master debater's" method of arguing a point was simple. As soon as the other person started talking he'd start talking over them and talking more and more loudly and forcefully until they stopped talking and he was shouting. At that point he'd declare he won another one with the Power of the Lord working through him. He had silenced the voice of the Devil himself speaking through God's Children! I'm fairly certain he cut off the call as soon as the person went quiet to assure the "Holy Silence" remained.

Probably half-way through the second week I was getting a bit tired of the preacher. What was probably the last night we listened to him he was mad-dog rabid railing against a song called 'Talk Dirty to Me'. I think one of the Hair-Bands did it but, I don't recall who. I do know the song got a lot of airplay and was quite popular for some time. This preacher host was saying all the typical Devil-Music Satan Sounds about the song and what it meant. He was screaming that any parents who thought that song was just some harmless little ditty and allowed their children to hear it, and worse, even own it, were condemning themselves and their children to Hell Eternal. Anyway, the extra frothing and spit foam added to the entertainment. A little taste of something for the head turned it into a true theater of the absurd. And it was about to go over the top!

What I still didn't know was my new buddy, Dave, WAS one of those 'true believer" types but was evolving out of it and having a real crisis of faith! His listening to the show was what he'd always done! This was all real for him! He was a great guy and never preached or brought up his beliefs. I knew he kept a Bible on his desk and I'd seen him reading it before, but I never thought anything about it. After the 'debates' with a couple callers over the evils of the song, the preacher starts talking about demons and how they are everywhere. He starts elaborating and gave a warning to parents whose children may have been having nightmares or night terrors. It may well be demons, he warned, coming for the child because the parents had lost their way and their relationship with the Divine wasn't right and this shift had opened a crack and sent out a beacon to call the demons to their lives. The proof was the purity and innocence of the children allows them to see the demons. The adults have been blinded by a secular world that no longer fears God. I had already started chuckling because it just seemed so absurd that this was a real guy saying this stuff to a radio audience who had to have members who believed every word! But, he's just getting started! At his fever pitch maxxed out, he commands a demon to call him on the phone. Not only does he command it, but he calls on the Power of the Lord to COMPEL a demon to call him! Sure enough almost right away, he picks up the phone. It's a live feed and the first thing you hear is screaming/crying/howls of pain that sound like a Haunted House sound effect record playing in the background. The caller, in a growly Linda Blair in Exorcist voice, starts going "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! I livvvvvve innnnnnnnnnn HELLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!" It was accompanied by growls, gnarrrrrrs, and various moans. The guy starts interviewing the demon and it was too much! It was so corny and hokey I absolutely lost it and thought I was going to die because I couldn't catch my breath from laughing so hard. My buddy was laughing until he was in tears. We had to go back in before we heard the conclusion.

On the walk back I remarked that I couldn't believe there were people sitting down somewhere who actually thought that some Demon called into that radio show on a telephone! My buddy goes all serious and looks at me like he's really shocked and asked, "You don't think that was real?"

I thought he was joking so somewhat both jokingly and sarcastically said I was certain that somewhere in Salem (the actual name of the town the radio station broadcast from) someone was bewildered by seeing an evilly lit phone booth billowing noxious sulfuric fumes, lightening flashing inside and around it while it was inhabited by a grotesquely deformed being of unimaginable ugliness. I followed that up with an idea that a really powerful demon who wanted to impress people with the power their Dark Lord imbued it with would have made a much grander entrance. Like materializing in the studio in a flash of light and flames with a cloud of sulfur. Somehow, calling from a phone booth was almost sad.... Dave looked at me like he didn't know what to say. We didn't go to lunch for a week or so but soon things got back to normal. We never listened to that preacher's show again and soon after Dave lost the rest of his religion and became a free man! He did tell me years later that he actually had thought a lot about what I said. I do know he came up to me as we were leaving work that night and asked me again if what I had meant was that another person had called in and was pretending to be a demon. I told him that seemed the most logical but it could have either been a listener playing a prank or it was staged and someone who was something to do with the show, station, or both helped stage it. After all, you gotta get people worked up to get them to send that money in!

As an aside, Dave took a position at work that required some more management skills than he had. He was sent to a school for managers in Florida where he learned a lot. Part of what they taught were relaxation techniques including meditation. He had a really tough time with that because he had always been taught that when you emptied your mind and reached a meditative state you were wide open to demonic possession. There were a couple of things like that he struggled with including the walking across coals. Twenty years later he has a hard time believing he was once like that.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 1:26:46 PM PST
L. Turner says:
Looks like you have the gift of gab and like to hear yourself repeatedly reasure yourself that you have it figured out. Kinda reminds me of my reasoning about life and the greater reality when I was young. You know who the liars in hukster false religion are, but do you have eternal peace with God through Christ? Less chatty talk and to the point.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 1:47:10 PM PST
It's amazing some people are like that. I really liked your phone booth story. I don't get the "religion" of people who hold the poison snakes to prove their faith. God already once showed you don't mess with snakes. Put the snake back where you got it. They're dangerous.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 1:51:24 PM PST
I like Post-Rock, so I guess that means I bypassed the Devil.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 1:51:57 PM PST
J. Hand says:
@ L Turner -if that was directed at me don't worry about my eternal peace. it's assured. spare me the allegations of being arrogant. i don't see where i made any claims to knowing "it all" and never calimed i did. i know what's right for me and that's all i can lay claim to. for arrogance masquerading as assuredness you lot have plenty of that for all of us. less chatty talk- who are you to tell me how to speak and what to write? i'll be damned for real if i ever let the likes of people like you dictate the methods of my life. i enjoy talking TO people and having an EXCHANGE of dialog with them. you, on the other hand, want to talk AT people. if you don't like the way i write and what i have to say click "ignore".

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 2:00:23 PM PST
L. Turner says:
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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 2:11:30 PM PST
soundmaster says:
I would add my two cents to this discussion, but I've got to go kill some chickens, drink some blood and play guitar.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 2:12:54 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2011 2:36:21 PM PST
JBug says:
JH, I also liked your story. There are people throughout this country with some very strange beliefs--not just in Indiana. How about those folks (not all, but some) in Southern states who are still bitter about the Civil War and hate anyone from the North? It seems that hate and ignorance is often passed down from one generation to the next.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 2:20:30 PM PST
- says:
IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL AND I LIKE IT1111

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 2:39:46 PM PST
J. Hand says:
"Not to worry, I will go away when I get bored, and that will not take too very long given the mundane nature of this tred."

Would praying for that expedite the departure? I'd even take a break from carving upside-down pentagrams all over my body with rusty razor blades to mumble a few prayers and even light a few votive candles if it would send you away sooner.

@JBug - Thanks! Yeah, people can definitely be different headed! I've done my share of traveling and have sure met a lot of people, some very good and some not so much so. I like to think it takes one of everybody to sustain reality as we know it. Therefore, when an unsavory or lamentable individual is encountered there should be rejoicing that we didn't have to be them! Hell, there's still a flat-Earth society and a group that wants to bring back mono! Conspiracy theorists of every conceivable stripe roam the Internet and easily find an audience!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 3:46:53 PM PST
SouthernGent says:
You dont understand, Rock n' Roll is the ULTIMATE CONFORMITY. Almost every kid in every suburb plays in some kinda punk rock band. Not a jazz band or a country band or a classical band- a Rock band. Rock is lame and as conformist as one can possibly get.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 4:32:52 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 14, 2011 6:02:09 PM PST
JBug says:
{{{click}}} E.P. - Did you hear me put you on "IGNORE?"

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 5:00:30 PM PST
J. Hand says:
@ JBug -not me i hope. my comments were at L Turner (Diaries) the second part was to you.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 5:04:33 PM PST
Rock & Roll is good time music.
LISTEN TO IT!

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 5:09:47 PM PST
Redblaze says:
http://youtu.be/3Qv8ZfxLxvI

On my way to kill the beast
I met a holy man from the east
His name was Jesus & he was son of man
He warned me about the danger ahead

He was godsend, he was gonna bring the Metal back
And take away the sins that people did in the past
He came down here to change our lives
He said to me while he looked me in the eyes

"I'm the Heavy Metal Jesus!
I'm the Heavy Metal thunderstriking Jesus"

He said, "if you wanna kill the beast
You gotta be blessed from the man from the east
So why don't you get down on your knee
And I will bless you with my Flying V?

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 5:21:59 PM PST
K. W. Newton says:
There has been a lot of Rock Music that actually helped me in my life's journey. Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood, is a good example.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 5:22:08 PM PST
What you say is partially true. In the begining God created Pink Floyd and it was good. Satan ruined everything and the world become a worse and more evil place with American Idol and Glee.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 6:59:31 PM PST
Working Man says:
Every kid in every suburb? Not anymore. The are all into rap and hip hop now. Rock is no longer the music of choice for must kids, though it does move in cycles and who knows what's next.

Really, all joking aside. I think E. P. Haufe, your opinions are outdated. Rock has not been called the devils music for years now and it's not even the music of choice today as I said rap and hip hop are the ULTIMATE CONFORMITY.

My guess is that being in rock band is probably cooler now than it has been in years because it's once again outside the mainstream of today's popular music. Being outside the mainstream is what made rock cool in the first place.

Beware, rock is on the way back.

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 7:15:37 PM PST
S. Stalcup says:
So according to this troll, rock and roll is the devil's music and according to Troll 2, coffee is the devil's drink? Two things I love dearly! Cool!

Posted on Dec 14, 2011 8:01:56 PM PST
Not all Rock music is Marlyn Manson and NIN. Most of it is not. There are countless Rock musicians who are devout Christians,Muslims,Jews,Budists,and other faiths and even atheists and are good people. You are a hypocrite. Look at all the money Rock Bands have given to charity and how many actually have good inspiring messages in their music. They have helped even save my life in times of depression. Go out and do some good in the world instead of judging others and putting them down. I believe in Christ and I want to dedicate my whole life to him. I have my weaknesses and listening to Rock does not make me a bad person and it wont you either. get another hobby!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 14, 2011 8:20:09 PM PST
L. Turner says:
Long live Pink Floyd music.
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