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Steely Dan's best album of the 70's

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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 24, 2013 8:01:44 AM PST
Morph the Cat and Kama too, for the most part, sound like Steely Dan albums.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 3:09:43 PM PST
ravager814 says:
I know I won't be excluding the later releases when discussing my Steely Dan collection, even though I just heard them very recently. But I also think the whole of Donald Fagen's "solo" work is pretty darn good. I was taken aback by just how how good Sunken Condos and Morph the Cat are. Makes me want to spring for some expensive Grados!

@vivzappa - I think Lou Reed gives Steely Dan a run for their money about writing songs about degenerates!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 12:31:33 PM PST
Too much of the same old jazz, not enough Mud wrestling?

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 12:06:41 PM PST
vivazappa says:
Sunken Condos has yet to "sink in" on me either...

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 10:52:57 AM PST
I do not know why people tend to have a problem with an older bands newer output. I think their last 2 albums were fine, much better than Sunken Condos which is getting such great reviews.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 10:45:53 AM PST
Shining Star says:
ROYAL SCAM was probably my overall favorite, although I loved all their 70's output.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 10:29:34 AM PST
I forgot the Fez? This was before DNA testing. If it is about wearing a condom maybe he just did not want to bring another seedy scurvy like him into the world.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 9:41:30 AM PST
Jersey Joker says:
They probably write the best ones, too ... along with Zappa (hard to beat The Illinois Enema Bandit!)

Posted on Dec 27, 2012 8:10:11 AM PST
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vivazappa says:
I believe Fagan once said they wrote more songs about perverts, drug addicts and hookers than anyone.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 7:32:25 AM PST
Jersey Joker says:
Wow, SA -

Very astute, bizarre and fascinating interpretation!

Makes me want to crank it up and really study the lyrics within that context. I never really paid that close attention to the lyrics and what they might mean, but I'm with Rare Goat -- I'm intrigued!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012 7:28:12 AM PST
Jersey Joker says:
That's a great tune, vivazappa - a great album.

Posted on Dec 27, 2012 6:49:06 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2012 6:49:49 AM PST
vivazappa says:
I always thought the tune The Royal Scam delt with immigrants coming to New York City...
Lured into the myth of a better life in America only to find out it's a lie.

And they wandered in
From the city of St. John
Without a dime
Wearing coats that shined
Both red and green
Colors from their sunny island
From their boats of iron
They looked upon the promised land
Where surely life was sweet
On the rising tide
To New York City
Did they ride into the street

See the glory
Of the royal scam

Posted on Dec 23, 2012 12:24:16 PM PST
Michael McDonald was all over everything back in his prime days in the late 70's.
I remember the SNL skit where there was a session going on, he ran in and did one 'ahhh' then ran out to another session.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 11:22:43 AM PST
Lauren says:
@vivazappa Agree on the Love Over Gold album - first CD I ever owned BTW - Telegraph Road and Industrial Disease, though I'd add that I personally consider Telegraph Road to be the greatest rock song written by anyone. Anyone here who's never heard it should go over to YouTube to check it out NOW.

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 10:35:08 AM PST
re: Kid Charlemagne

In the context of your story, maybe this song is kind of a "scene setter", laying out a world where the happy, idealistic, peaceful drug culture of the sixties has fully given way to a new, more grim reality. Where Owsley is the symbol of the "obsolete" world of the past.

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 10:15:59 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 21, 2012 10:16:31 AM PST
More, more!

How about Kid Charlemagne, how does he (Owsley?) fit in? And the Fez?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012 9:26:31 AM PST
A wooly man without a face
A beast without a name
Mad dog

The next song could be about the same killer, a man who got away and needs a new identity.

They don't even have policeman one
Doesn't matter where you been or what you've done

Do you have a dark spot on your past
Leave it to my man he'll fix it fast
Pepe has a scar from ear to ear
He will make your mug shots disappear

You zombie
Be born again my friend
Won't you sign in stranger

Pepe's throat has been cut. He won't be needing his identity so you can have it. You are him. He is dead. You are a zombie now.

And who are you
Just another scurvy brother

A song about a rapist (same guy?) who stole her jewelry?

Cold, daring
No flies on me
Sorry, angel
I must take what I see

I remember
The look in your eyes
I don't mind

Greek medallion
Sparkles when you smile
Sorry, angel
I get hungry like a child

She drinks the zombie from the cocoa shell.

Some babies grow in a peculiar way
It changed, it grew, and everybody knew

Who's this kinky so-and-so?

The kid does not belong to the husband. It was fathered by the rapist, our friend the Zombie. And the husband wants revenge.

Where did the bastard run
I'm gonna get a gun
Shoot the lover down


By the blackened wall
He does it all
He thinks he's died and gone to heaven

So has our hero got a brand new life, gone from rags to riches?
Either way it's about the dregs of society.
Or maybe it's all a scam.

Posted on Dec 21, 2012 8:00:00 AM PST
I thought The Royal Scam was kind of a series of vignettes about NYC criminal/mob types, but I like the conceptual link SA uncovered between Caves and Alive.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 9:38:53 PM PST

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 9:29:12 PM PST
That's an interesting analogy of songs intertwined and/or loosely related to another. The thought crossed my mind about Scam being conceptual, but then I think sometimes about being guilty of reading too much into things as I'm want to do on occasion. Still, though, very good, SA. Thanks for that!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 3:39:05 PM PST
I think he just hangs around studios all day. "hey, I can do that!"

Posted on Dec 20, 2012 2:01:41 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 20, 2012 2:02:44 PM PST
Stratocaster says:
Michael McDonald - why's the man gotta sing like he's got a mouth full of marbles? Yes, very irritating.
I never quite understood how Fagan and Becker felt that he fit in well with their "sound".

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 1:22:57 PM PST
Wow, heavy. Thanks for that SA.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012 12:34:52 PM PST
I think this is the story line.

When he was young, instead of venturing out into the world he would spend his time holed up in a cave, wondering who the hairy man was.

The people on the outside see him as a bearded stranger and a threat. The mad beast who must be caged.

And now that he is back in his childhood cave, waiting to end it all, he comes to the realization that the hairy man is he.

I recall when I was small
How I spent my days alone
The busy world was not for me
So I went and found my own

I would climb the garden wall
With a candle in my hand
I'd hide inside a hall of rock and sand

Can it be this sad design
Could be the very same
A wooly man without a face
And a beast without a name

Agents of the law

I know you're out there
With rage in your eyes and your megaphones
Saying all is forgiven
Mad dog surrender

Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night

Can you hear the evil crowd
The lies and the laughter
I hear my inside
The mechanized hum of another world
Where no sun is shining
No red light flashing
Here in this darkness
I know what I've done
I know all at once who I am

Posted on Dec 20, 2012 11:02:40 AM PST
I wouldn't mind an AHA! song right now.
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