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Monkees 2012 Tour - Bad Timing?


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Initial post: Aug 9, 2012 11:06:52 AM PDT
bass boy says:
So the three surviving members of the Monkees are embarking on a 2012 tour. They're doing 12 dates. That's good for Monkees fans but the timing seems a little off, with Davy Jones dying not that long ago. The tour touts that it's the first time since 1997 they've toured - not sure if that's as a four-piece, or if it's been that long since they appeared with Michael Nesmith?
Not that I'm a big Davy Jones fan - Nesmith was/is my favorite - but his recent death makes the new tour .... um ..... odd. I guess when a musician OD's I can forgive the band for carrying on. But when they die of more natural causes (Davy Jones, Pink Floyd's Richard Wright, etc.), I have more of a problem, I guess.

Thoughts?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 9, 2012 11:15:13 AM PDT
Dee Zee says:
Seems odd to me too.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 11:17:42 AM PDT
Randy says:
I'm a huge Nesmith fan, but I've always been under the impression that he was the only reason The Monkees never reunited. Doing so this soon after Davy's death does seem disrespectful.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 11:28:32 AM PDT
zlh67 says:
I don't really know the history of the differences between Nesmith and any of the others, but yeah, a tour so soon makes it seem like "Well, now that HE's gone (Davy), I'll tour with you guys." I don't think that's the truth of it though.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 9, 2012 11:36:33 AM PDT
Dee Zee says:
Who owns the trademark The Monkees?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 9, 2012 11:40:34 AM PDT
Randy says:
RE: Who owns the trademark The Monkees?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Simon Fuller

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 11:43:42 AM PDT
And who's gonna sing Daydream Believer?

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 11:47:49 AM PDT
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Randy says:
British newspaper article from 2008:

HEY HEY, THE MONKEES ARE BACK

POP svengali Simon Fuller is bringing back telly classic The Monkees - and giving it a raunchy modern twist.

And hey, hey - producers are already on the hunt for four hunky surfer dude types to play an updated version of the original boyband.

The lucky lads will become the new Micky Dolenz, Davy Jones, Michael Nesmith and Peter Tork, who set teenage girls' hearts racing in the sixties.

The foursome starred as the boy-next-door band for five years from 1965 with hits such as Daydream Believer.

Their show started out as a scripted drama but eventually turned into a reality-variety production after the lads tired of the corny scripts.


Monkee business ... Simon Fuller plans launch


Eventually The Monkees became so popular they began to call the shots - and play their own instruments.

Mischief

Fuller, the man behind The Spice Girls and S Club 7, wants the new Monkees to play their own instruments and effectively become a real band. But unlike the squeaky clean original gang the new group will be much more rock 'n roll.

A show source said: "This will be The Monkees for the Gossip Girl generation and a lot more raunchy.

"We are looking for some charismatic lads who are up for a bit of mischief. The show will be much grittier than the original with more sex, drugs and rock 'n roll."


Producers have already held open auditions in California as they seek "great, offbeat character types with energy, charisma and humour".

It is the second time that Fuller - who owns the rights to The Monkees - has attempted to put together a revival show.

Five years ago he started work on The New Monkees but the idea was scrapped after no broadcaster showed any interest.

The new show, which may not use the Monkees name, will launch in the US before coming to Britain. Insiders said it was too early to say which channel would take it up.

The Monkees, formed in LA, had a huge hit with their first album in 1966. There have been reunion tours.

But the group did not mark their 40th anniversary in 2006 and a comeback with all members on stage seems unlikely.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 12:07:58 PM PDT
Got an email from Rhino records, it says that this is the first time Nesmith has toured with the Monkees since '69. And they will use the tour as a tribute to Davy, sounds cool.

Nesmith did his own thing musically and didn't need the money. His mom invented Liquid Paper. Great songwriter.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 12:09:41 PM PDT
Still, what are they going to do, sing Davy's songs themselves or hire a sound-alike?

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 12:48:57 PM PDT
Chazzzbo says:
My understanding is they were planning on taking this year off after just finishing the 45th anniversary tour. This was solely in reaction to Davy's death, and is intended as a tribute to him. Not sure how/if Davy is being replaced...I would argue they should use old vocal tracks and augment them live; anything else would just seem diminished (imo).

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 12:56:47 PM PDT
S. Stalcup says:
Death is a cold bucket of water in the face, basically. It's their way of saying goodbye from the sound of things, both to Davy and The Monkees. As far as Davy's songs go, how many times did one of them sing one of Mike's tunes when he wasn't there?

There were four (well, three and a half) people in the Monkees and three of them weren't Davy. Micky sang the lion's share where as Mike sang "The Crippled Lion" (rimshot).

That said, probably won't be a dry eye in the house when they get to the chorus of "The Porpoise Song."

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 9, 2012 1:16:05 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 9, 2012 1:29:19 PM PDT
S. Stalcup says:
Yes, it's very cruel.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 9, 2012 1:35:22 PM PDT
Max Flash says:
mr. critic: ...the surviving members of the Darling family bluegrass band from the Andy Griffith show.

Max: That was the Dilliards, not a bad band in their day, not sure whose still around.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 2:10:50 PM PDT
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If the guys are doing the tour as a way of paying their last respects to Davy, I see nothing wrong with it. Davy's passing probably made them consider their own immortality. Yeah, I know...one could be cynical and say that this is just a way to make a quick buck. But since Mike Nesmith is participating, I don't think so. He certainly doesn't need the money, and I'm sure Micky and Peter are doing OK financially. This is just their way of taking a last bow and remembering Davy. As far as who will sing Davy's songs, Micky always had the best voice of the four and he could handle those songs with ease.

The opportunity to see Nesmith back on stage will be amazing. Why the man doesn't make more of those great solo albums and occasionally tour is beyond me. It's his natural calling.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 2:24:54 PM PDT
I wonder if they will use video footage of Davy on a background screen.

It seems too soon to embark on a tour but if it is a sincere tribute for Davy then I hope it is successful and will reflect the love of the fans for Davy, and Mike, Mickey and Peter.

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 2:41:27 PM PDT
Steve Vrana says:
The Dillards were a highly influential and respected bluegrass band. They last performed together during their induction into the Bluegrass Hall of Fame in 2009. Since that time Doug Dillard (banjo) died last May at the age of 75; original bassist Mitch Jayne died in 2010 at the age of 82. Guitarist Rodney Dillard, 70, and mandolinist Dean Webb, 75, are still alive.

I'm going to hope that "mr. critic" simply made an uninformed gaffe and not intentionally meant to ridicule the Dillards.

As to the Monkees, I saw them in 1987 (minus Mike Nesmith). I can't speak to the timing of the reunion tour, but it does seem awkward at best. And at this stage in Nesmith's career, why bother? I own all of his albums and he hasn't released a new studio album since the bizarre RAYS in 2005. I saw an article in today's newspaper about the 12-date tour that it is scheduled to start Nov. 8 in California and that the remaining members would highlight Davy Jones in the show's multimedia content. (Whatever that means!)

Posted on Aug 9, 2012 9:54:58 PM PDT
With technology i think they can be creative and honorable to Davy's memory. There have been many instances of tributes in concert. I bet they will do a heartfelt good job. I think since Davy was a real showbiz kid he would want - the show to go on...

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 10, 2012 4:57:10 AM PDT
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Randy says:
@mr. critic
RE: the surviving members of the Darling family bluegrass band from the Andy Griffith show. You'd have about the same amount of talent.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I take exception to this statement. To compare the talent level of The Dillards(who performed as the The Darlings on The Andy Griffith Show) to that of The Brady Bunch is ludicrous. The Dillards were one of the country's best bluegrass bands in the 1960s and probably did more than anyone else to increase the popularity of that genre during that time period. Banjo player Doug Dillard, as a member of Dillard & Clark with Gene Clark, was one of the most important pioneers of Country-Rock in the early 70s(as was Michael Nesmith). The Dillards continue to tour with Rodney Dillard and his wife Beverly as the primary members.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 10, 2012 4:59:04 AM PDT
Randy says:
Oops; I see that my point has already been made by Max Flash and Steve Vrana. It's great to see that The Dillards are still appreciated by knowledgable music lovers.

Posted on Aug 10, 2012 7:29:34 AM PDT
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Posted on Aug 10, 2012 9:51:59 AM PDT
S. Stalcup says:
Initially, yes, they were, but as the former George Michael Dolenz was fond of pointing out, like Leonard Nimoy became a Vulcan, the Monkees became a legitimate pop group. Pinocchio as a real boy if you will.

Listen to the band.

Posted on Aug 10, 2012 11:00:04 AM PDT
Geezerguy says:
mr. critic says:
Only if all 4 Monkees were in glass coffins with a better band playing in front of them would I go. Maybe that's a little cruel. Put it this way, I would rather pay to see the Brady Bunch perform as "The Silver Platters" or the surviving members of the Darling family bluegrass band from the Andy Griffith show. You'd have about the same amount of talent.

Actually, the Darlings were a very talented bluegrass band called the Dillards.

As for the Monkees, I loved them as a kid. Didn't care if they had session musicians... (So did the Beach Boys.) The wife and I saw them in Greeley, Colorado at the Independence Stampede about a decade ago. Tork, Jones, and Dolenz played. No Nesmith. Not terrible, but undewhelming.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 10, 2012 3:25:42 PM PDT
Capitalizing on the sentiment?
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